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The timing of what? The "leak?" Because it's not the timing of tech... They didn't start working on graphene cooling systems this month... or this year... or even this decade. Graphene has been the holy grail for 20 years, and Apple has been working on it for a very long time, I promise you. This leak is timed to grab eyeballs and stir suspicion, and it's apparently working.
Except Graphene cooling of phones has been around for at least 5 years? https://www.pcmag.com/news/huaweis-graphene-conduction-cooling-from-the-lab-to-your-pocket
 
Thermal resistance in electronics packaging is often dominated - not by thermal resistance of the bulk material (e.g., copper), but by the thermal interfaces. I have low confidence in graphene as a mature and deployable technology. They would likely use graphene as an interface layer, and they will have to watch yield very carefully. They likely already do x-ray every cpu after the mainboad is assembled to inspect the die for voids. As far as I know, graphene can't be bonded or physically attached well, there could be ageing problems with the interface if it isn't studied closely. The risk is that 4 or 5 years down the road, air voids could develop between the CPU and heat spreader /chassis and cause overheating in aged devices.
 
Graphene is expensive as ****. Expect a price hike incoming for the iPhone 16 Pro.
 
My 15 Pro Max still gets extremely warm between 20%-80% charge on an 18W brick, then cools way down after 80%. Also already at 99% capacity 🤨
 
So they are admitting of the overheating issues so next year they can turn back the heat on the 15 so people upgrade

There was someone on MacRumors who has the exact same MagSafe charger as me, but his iPhone 15 Pro Max was overheating.

Sounds to me like those complaints were people not making use of their 14-day return period and exchange it for a good model.
 
Seems sketchy.

iPhone 15 overheating reports seem to have died down after the recent software updates. My 15 Pro doesn’t get any warmer than my 13 mini did when being pushed.
Which means Apple has backed off of the performance to make up for poor thermal design.

This does seem sketchy because better heat conductivity in the heat sinks will make the electronics cooler, by making the case hotter.
 
My guess is that with the price of copper, this is only a cost reduction effort. After all that is what Cook is known for.
 
This baffles me to no end, every time I see someone make a similar statement.

What exactly do you want changed design wise? Triangle edges? Maybe a triangular phone?

The design and feel of the current (and past models all the way back to X) is perfect as far as I’m concerned.

Other than those complaining about DI, which I never even notice, or those wanting the smaller form factor, what would be your master plan for an “ENTIRELY NEW DESIGN”?
The 12 was an entirely new design. We’ve had the same design since the 12, but the X through 11 were a different design. So if you thought the X was perfect, there would have been no need for the redesign of the 12.

Apple could easily create a new industrial design again.
 
It’s almost like Apple is always working on new processes and materials when manufacturing products.

The entire story about iPhone 15 Pro overheating due to the titanium material was proven to be incorrect, and it was probably just propaganda started by someone at TSMC whispering in Kuo’s ear to shift blame from the A17 Pro.
Might want to lay off the kool-aid there, champ
 
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Still very happy with my 14 Pro. Never failed me once. Great battery life still after a year of heavy usage and I love the screen. It’s a bit heavy, yes. But hands down the best iPhone I’ve ever owned. Gonna wait until they drop the boxy chassis and make it round again like the 11 Pro. My next upgrade will probably be in 2025. No thermal issues with my 14 Pro. iPhone 14 Pro = Zero Problems phone ✌️
After having lightning for years and upgrading to the 15 Pro Max, I can say I really like USB-c on the iPhone and I wish apple did it sooner. You will like it too when you upgrade. Another quality-of-life update is the 8 GB RAM. Multi-tasking is much better, with far less app refreshes (where you lose the context that was in app and it starts over from scratch). In fact, I don't get any forced app refreshes/reloads anymore.
 
If there wasn’t a defect in the design with the current generation (like Apple said), then they wouldn’t be changing it for the next generation.

Good ol’ indirect self admission.
So I guess everything after the iPhone 1 onward was defective? Should've just stopped making new iPhones then rather than indirectly admitting that all their iPhone designs are defective... :rolleyes:
 
Ti has a lower thermal conductivity than SS. As much as a factor of 2 depending on the SS alloy. Not sure how well Apple assesses that when considering new materials.

Jony Ive clearly did not assess the material and handling impacts when they decided to use the SS band as the antenna on the iPhone 4. Clearly evident Apple knew they had a problem, which is why they released the bumper cases at the same time and the legendary quote from S.J. “You are holding it wrong”.
 
Seems sketchy.

iPhone 15 overheating reports seem to have died down after the recent software updates. My 15 Pro doesn’t get any warmer than my 13 mini did when being pushed.
Do we know if this is simply because the update throttles performance, thereby reducing heat generation? Better thermal management is never a bad thing, especially if it allows Apple to turn up their chips.
 
only with this, Apple next iphone can have 10% better performance with the same A17 because of sustain performance
 
The 12 was an entirely new design. We’ve had the same design since the 12, but the X through 11 were a different design. So if you thought the X was perfect, there would have been no need for the redesign of the 12.

Apple could easily create a new industrial design again.
I didn’t say we’ve had the same exact design since the X. I said since the X the designs have been good.

If you really want to get technical, the 15 models are different also due to the slightly rounded edges vs the 14 models.

Trust me, I would love to see your mockup of a new “industrial design” you are envisioning. Please share.

As far I’m concerned, it’s a phone and works a such. The designs since the X have been extremely comfortable in hand.
 
Seems sketchy.

iPhone 15 overheating reports seem to have died down after the recent software updates. My 15 Pro doesn’t get any warmer than my 13 mini did when being pushed.
Any rumors prior to Feb or March 2024 for the iPhone 16 are suspect, at best.
 
Thermal resistance in electronics packaging is often dominated - not by thermal resistance of the bulk material (e.g., copper), but by the thermal interfaces. I have low confidence in graphene as a mature and deployable technology. They would likely use graphene as an interface layer, and they will have to watch yield very carefully. They likely already do x-ray every cpu after the mainboad is assembled to inspect the die for voids. As far as I know, graphene can't be bonded or physically attached well, there could be ageing problems with the interface if it isn't studied closely. The risk is that 4 or 5 years down the road, air voids could develop between the CPU and heat spreader /chassis and cause overheating in aged devices.
I think the use of such interfaces is often overlooked by consumers too. In older hardware that runs “hot” it’s usually because the interfaces between the processors and heat sinks has degraded/dried out etc

Replacing it is often a sure way to have a system running like new. I’m addition to removing built up dust.
 
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