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I wonder how they never caught the heat issue during the device’s testing phase.
Because there is no heat issue? Sure devices driven hard make heat (remember G3 Macs?) but the only real issue is with the boring clickbaiters. Or folks that needed to learn to turn off their cameras when not in use, etc.
 
This baffles me to no end, every time I see someone make a similar statement.

What exactly do you want changed design wise? Triangle edges? Maybe a triangular phone?

The design and feel of the current (and past models all the way back to X) is perfect as far as I’m concerned.

Other than those complaining about DI, which I never even notice, or those wanting the smaller form factor, what would be your master plan for an “ENTIRELY NEW DESIGN”?
This x 10.
 
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So I guess everything after the iPhone 1 onward was defective? Should've just stopped making new iPhones then rather than indirectly admitting that all their iPhone designs are defective... :rolleyes:
I’m talking about the timing of all of this, that’s the giveaway. Remember how the iPhone 6S magically received stronger grade aluminum after the #BendGate controversy of the iPhone 6? Wasn't that a direct response to a defect?

Again, if this is going to be a major thermal change, and not a minor one, there has to be some reason for Apple to even want to spend the time and effort.
 
Possibly a last-minute change as the 16 is probably finished. Apple probably has phones up to the 19 planned out.
 
My 15 Pro Max still gets extremely warm between 20%-80% charge on an 18W brick, then cools way down after 80%. Also already at 99% capacity 🤨
Normal for high wattage charging in a small device. Wireless charging is even worse. Charging heat is not the issue here.
 
I’m talking about the timing of all of this, that’s the giveaway. Remember how the iPhone 6S magically received stronger grade aluminum after the #BendGate controversy of the iPhone 6? Wasn't that a direct response to a defect?

Again, if this is going to be a major thermal change, and not a minor one, there has to be some reason for Apple to even want to spend the time and effort.
I think you may be misjudging the length of development time here. There is next to no way that Apple could turn around a "major thermal design change" in less than a year on a phone design that has already been worked on for 1-2 years. Any thermal design change for the iPhone 16 was largely decided and worked on over the last year. To think Apple suddenly saw a thermal design flaw (which was fixed BTW) in September and scrambled to make a major thermal design change in the last 2 months really minimizes the amount of engineering effort that goes into these things. It also ignores the fact that Apple has patents on thermal designs, proving they've thought about and worked on these problems well before this September.
 
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What is there to win, I am on 11 pro max and it works perfectly and still fast. The hassle of moving everything to a new phone further deters the desire to upgrade.
There’s no reason to upgrade every year of course. Because of my job, I do upgrade every year and Apple has the data transfer from phone to phone working so well now that it is almost effortless. So don’t let that hold you back once you feel the need to upgrade.
 
Seems sketchy.

iPhone 15 overheating reports seem to have died down after the recent software updates. My 15 Pro doesn’t get any warmer than my 13 mini did when being pushed.
This is not an issue limited to a specific model or specific software.

My iPhone 12 Pro became unusable every time I tried to put it into CarPlay. It was not able to do CarPlay with navigation and also playing music or an audiobook at the same time.

These really are very dense computers and they need to have better design for cooling somehow.

My new iPhone 15 Pro Max does not seem to have this problem. I suspect that’s because it has such powerful processors that are more able to drive the CarPlay without getting over stressed.
 
If there wasn’t a defect in the design with the current generation (like Apple said), then they wouldn’t be changing it for the next generation.

Good ol’ indirect self admission.
The rumor is probably confused, just like you are.

There are patents from a few years ago (ie way before the current round of idiocy regarding titanium and "overheating") for attaching the SoC to a block of phase-change material. Like most "cooling" solutions, this doesn't allow you to run the device indefinitely at peak wattage, but it does provide a buffer that can absorb a lot of immediate heat generation that is then slowly released to the world.

I've no idea whether this is worth doing or not. I assume it hinges on
- how many people run their phones (and iPads, and MBAs) at peak power, (ie play games)
- for how long they run at peak power, and
- how long till they return from idle to again running at peak power

If most people run at peak power for, say 20 minutes twice a day, and a small enough chunk of phase-change material can absorb that, maybe it is worth doing?
 
There is no overheating problem. That is why Apple is addressing better thermals.


Better batteries just in time for the new EU rules on batteries.



Plus a larger form factor, maybe next year I upgrade from my 14 PM…
Yup, im holding out until next year as well, no reason to move from my 14PM so far.
 
So they are admitting of the overheating issues so next year they can turn back the heat on the 15 so people upgrade
Devices make heat, duh. Engineers constantly look for better ways to remove heat, duh.

Perceived heat will vary for all sorts of reasons, not the least of which is silly users watching clickbait videos. Odds are Apple will never release an iPhone with serious true overheating issues.
 
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I’m talking about the timing of all of this, that’s the giveaway. Remember how the iPhone 6S magically received stronger grade aluminum after the #BendGate controversy of the iPhone 6? Wasn't that a direct response to a defect?

Again, if this is going to be a major thermal change, and not a minor one, there has to be some reason for Apple to even want to spend the time and effort.
Nonsense. You need to learn to analyze. Hint: research into new technologies for a 2024 iPhone does not start months after a 2023 iPhone is released. Designing, manufacturing and distributing an iPhone takes more than 10 months.

Engineers are always looking for superior ways to remove heat at the same time that they are looking for ways to increase performance, which usually concurrently increases heat.
 
Seems sketchy.

iPhone 15 overheating reports seem to have died down after the recent software updates. My 15 Pro doesn’t get any warmer than my 13 mini did when being pushed.
Wait for the class action lawsuit that shows Apple is throttling the phone
 
Is Apple slowly going the way of Intel?

At first, the Ax chips were all about efficiency. It now seems that every year they get a lot more powerful, but also a little bit warmer, and all these little bits warmer are adding up to needing cooling, and in years to come the efficiency has been lost and they’re just really powerful, hot, power hungry chips.
Did they lose efficiency? Seems they get better battery life than ever while being more powerful than ever. The constraints of the physical design, that hasn’t changed all that much in years might be the cause of the perceived reduction in efficiency.

This article seems to say they are working on improving that.
 
I didn’t say we’ve had the same exact design since the X. I said since the X the designs have been good.

If you really want to get technical, the 15 models are different also due to the slightly rounded edges vs the 14 models.

Trust me, I would love to see your mockup of a new “industrial design” you are envisioning. Please share.

As far I’m concerned, it’s a phone and works a such. The designs since the X have been extremely comfortable in hand.
Yes I know you didn’t say that. I was pointing out that with that attitude we could have kept the X design. But Apple did release a new design. They can do so again, and many would appreciate something fresh.

I’m not an industrial designer, so I’m not going to mockup anything.
 
I just hope the 16 pro max is not another ‘s’ year. Otherwise my iphone 12 pro max will be breaking my upgrade cycle.
 
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