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the camera won't be as good, but it will have the same processor as the 16.
Not as good?!, according to the leaks and rumors, the iPhone SE 4 will have a 48MP camera

Plus, iPhone 16E name doesn’t fit Apple’s naming system (for example, why would Apple call the iPad Air the “iPad Pro E” or “iPad Slim”? These 2 names makes ZERO sense for Apple’s naming system!
 
What if tomorrow’s announcement is not a phone???
I’m still 50/50 on it being this being the first refresh of the rumored “Apple Command Center” thing as I don’t think Apple would push a new iPhone SE as something new.

Then again, if they want to rebrand and increase the price of the budget iPhone then positioning it as something new would make just as much sense.

Apple certainly would benefit from some Q1 hype.
 
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Keeping the SE name would be better, so customer don't expect a refresh every year. With a name like 16E, I would expect a 17E next Spring, and a 18E the next following year, etc. At least with the SE name, 1 year from now you can still buy, and not visually see that you are a generation behind.
“visually see”, you don’t need to specify visually.

Why would Apple not want you to see you’re a generation behind? They can then sell you another phone.
 
1. Since when do iPhone boxes have the model name on them?
2. Since when do Chinese sources know anything about product names?
3. Since when does it make any sense whatsoever to permanently tie an SE product, expected to remain unchanged for several years, to an obsolete generation?
4. Since when does an update of the lowest-end product in an existing product line constitute a new addition to the family?

My predictions:

A. Introducing the “new iPhone SE”
B. An actual new product line, such as the rumored “HomePad,” together with some cloud service (such as a serverless iCloud app platform, allowing Siri integration with no GUI or a simple GUI) that would help developers avoid the balkanization of Siri platforms and expose app intents in the cloud.
 
An old Cockney rhyming alphabet has:

E for Brick
F for Lump (or F fer Vescence)

iPhone 16E Name is Increasingly Likely​

The headline is so wrong! The name will have been chosen and set in concrete ages ago. The only thing that might change is our perception or estimation of the likelihood of a particular name.
 
“visually see”, you don’t need to specify visually.

Why would Apple not want you to see you’re a generation behind? They can then sell you another phone.

Because Apple refreshes the SE every 3 years. Unless they plan to change that, pretty sure they want to keep selling the “16E” beyond this year. Once the 17’s comes out, it will become irrelevant, just like how the 15 Pro’s are now. From a marketing perspective, they need to differentiate the 2 lineup.

It would look pretty pathetic, still selling a 16E next to a 17/18/19 series iPhone. SE naming makes more sense for their 3 year cycle.
 
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Because Apple refreshes the SE every 3 years. Unless they plan to change that, pretty sure they want to keep selling the “16E” beyond this year. Once the 17’s comes out, it will become irrelevant, just like how the 15 Pro’s are now. From a marketing perspective, they need to differentiate the 2 lineup.

It would look pretty pathetic, still selling a 16E next to a 17/18/19 series iPhone. SE naming makes more sense for their 3 year cycle.

If it gets named 16E, its a pretty strong indicator they will change to annual refresh. Annual refresh of midrange phone (~ $500 phone) is normal for other manufacturers, so wouldn't be much of a surprise to see Apple start doing this.
 
If it gets named 16E, its a pretty strong indicator they will change to annual refresh. Annual refresh of midrange phone (~ $500 phone) is normal for other manufacturers, so wouldn't be much of a surprise to see Apple start doing this.

Yup, it makes sense to refresh it every Spring. That would excite alot of budget users to upgrade every year, instead of every 3 years.
 
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If it gets named 16E, its a pretty strong indicator they will change to annual refresh. Annual refresh of midrange phone (~ $500 phone) is normal for other manufacturers, so wouldn't be much of a surprise to see Apple start doing this.
Anyone got sales figures for the SEs - and how they change (I assume drop a lot) between releases?

Can't imagine that many sales of a 2022 model at £429 - especially with a new model obviously being likely.
 
I’m still 50/50 on it being this being the first refresh of the rumored “Apple Command Center” thing as I don’t think Apple would push a new iPhone SE as something new.

Then again, if they want to rebrand and increase the price of the budget iPhone then positioning it as something new would make just as much sense.

Apple certainly would benefit from some Q1 hype.
I think the “new member” reference by TC is more focused on the NEW APPLE made modem being deployed for first time in 16E like when it switched from Intel to its own M1 chip.
 
E for Experiment

I'm looking forward to tomorrow's the upcoming announcement! However, I'm also looking forward to the base 17 announcement later in the year. I expect to continue to dither on upgrading my 11.
 
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E for "extra parts and tooling we wanted to use"

Hopefully not "E" for "Edge cellular quality" (also known as 2.75G)
 
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