iPhone 17 Air Battery Capacity and Weight Allegedly Revealed

[contacos]

Except that sounds like exactly what they are doing though?

iPhone 17 Air Could Debut Advanced Silicon Battery Tech

The upcoming all-new ultra-thin iPhone 17 Air could become the first Apple smartphone to adopt advanced battery technology, with Japanese supplier...

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Even this article states that they might use “high density” batteries, which is basically rumor speak for the same thing.
Then it’s rumor to come to the Foldables next year, followed by the pro in 2027.

In that case the question is, why not out a 4,000 battery in it. My phone has a 5,800 battery. Should be doablen

 

[User 6502]

Holy crap. How did they get it weighing the same as the 13 Mini?

Mostly by using a battery with insufficient capacity. They can make it even lighter by removing the battery altogether and ask people to wear it in the pocket as they do with Vision Pro. At. This point it would not shock me anymore.

 

[smithc]

What sort of clown would by a super thin phone just to slap a thick battery case on it?

 

[Lounge vibes 05]

In that case the question is, why not out a 4,000 battery in it. My phone has a 5,800 battery. Should be doablen

Well to start with, mAh it’s pretty much a useless way to measure batteries anyway. It doesn’t really say anything about how long the battery will last, as literally laid out in this article.
For example, if it’s a new high density battery at 2800 mah, it’s going to perform significantly better than, for example, the 2800 mah battery in the iPhone 12.
As for why it’s not a significantly higher capacity battery, there could be many reasons for that. Weight, heat, cost, silicon efficiency, there are a bunch of factors.

 

[winxmac]

iPhone 6 Plus - 2915mAh
iPhone 6s Plus - 2750mAh
iPhone 7 Plus - 2900mAh
iPhone 8 Plus - 2691mAh
iPhone X - 2716mAh
iPhone XR - 2942mAh
iPhone XS - 2658mAh
iPhone 11 - 3110mAh
iPhone 11 Pro - 3046mAh
iPhone 12 - 2815mAh
iPhone 12 Pro - 2815mAh
iPhone 13 - 3227mAh
iPhone 13 Pro - 3095mAh
iPhone 14 - 3279mAh
iPhone 14 Pro - 3200mAh
iPhone 15 - 3349mAh
iPhone 15 Pro - 3274mAh
iPhone 16e - 4005mAh
iPhone 16 - 3561mAh
iPhone 16 Pro - 3582mAh
iPhone 17 Air - 2800mAh (?)

 

[Lounge vibes 05]

What sort of clown would by a super thin phone just to slap a thick battery case on it?

Why do people keep asking this really stupid question?
First of all, it’s not a battery case, it’s a battery pack, and people are already using them on their big phones.
I still use my MagSafe battery pack with my 15PM, no matter what the 17 Air is still lighter and thinner.
iPhone 15 Pro Max with MagSafe Battery: 335G
iPhone Air with MagSafe Battery: 259G.

Even with the battery pack attached, it’s still going to be about 1/3 lighter.
And this is just for a MagSafe battery, for someone who just uses a complete external battery pack to charge all of their devices, they won’t have any added weight to the phone itself.

 

[iFunk]

We all know why Apple releases products like this... Marketing and not everyone needs a phone w/ a battery that lasts even a day. I know plenty of people who hardly look at their phone for even 5 minutes a day (I am trying to get to that level).

What is funny though is I worked in the cellular industry from 1997 to 2019. I saw it all in terms of trends, features, phone sizes, candy bar phones, flip phones, smart phones, tablets, etc.

Who doesn't remember the Zoolander small phone reference

Pre Apple iPhone, I still remember Motorola launching their Q "smartphone" which was announced 20 years ago in the summer of '05. Its hard to find marketing items on the device but in the commercial it showed the phone being hidden behind a pencil. So many people were wowed! No matter how much we joke or make fun of the smaller battery or the fact that most of us would like a larger battery, there is def a market for the iPhone Air style devices. Many professionals have their device plugged in or on a MagSafe charger all day in their office. Others are willing to sacrifice an all day battery for a a lighter device. As crazy as it sounds to some, many are willing to have the thinner phone and toss on a MagSafe battery pack or what not if they won't be around their charger for a long period.

Who remembers the Motorola Q? LOL

Peace!

 

[winxmac]

First of all, it’s not a battery case, it’s a battery pack

Before MagSafe battery pack, Apple used to sell battery cases for iPhone 6 to iPhone 8.

 

[MtotheH]

Apple is expected to launch an all-new ultra-thin iPhone 17 Air later this year, and while there have been plenty of rumors about the camera's overall design and thinness, we haven't heard any details about the device's weight and battery capacity until now.

According to the leaker going by the account name "yeux1122" on the Korean-langauge Naver blog, the 6.6-inch iPhone 17 Air has a weight of approximately 145 grams, while the battery capacity is 2,800mAh. The details allegedly originate from a "mass production confirmed sample." The blog has previously offered accurate insights into Apple's component strategy.

The claimed weight is similar to an iPhone SE 2 or iPhone 13 mini, which are 148 grams and 141 grams, respectively. As for the battery, the capacity figure is not unlike the iPhone 12, which has a 2,815mAh battery. However, the leaker's post does note that there remains a possibility that Apple will use a high-density battery in the iPhone 17 Air, which could increase its "actual capacity" by 15-20%.

Apple supply chain analyst Ming-Chi Kuo said in March that device will have a "high-density" battery. More recently, a report out of Asia has suggested that the iPhone 17 Air could become the first Apple smartphone to adopt advanced battery technology, with Apple supplier TDK preparing to ship its new generation of silicon-anode batteries by the end of June.

Having said that, reports have been mixed regarding the iPhone 17 Air's potential battery performance. The Information's Wayne Ma claimed the device will have "worse" battery life compared to previous iPhone models.

In internal testing, Apple apparently determined that the percentage of users who will be able to use the iPhone 17 Air for a full day without needing to recharge the device throughout the day will be between 60% and 70%, according to the report. For other iPhone models, the report said that metric is apparently between 80% and 90%.

To mitigate this problem, the report said that Apple is planning to release a battery case as an optional accessory for the iPhone 17 Air.

On the other hand, Bloomberg's Mark Gurman has offered a more optimistic outlook, stating that battery life would be "on par with current iPhones" thanks to hardware and software optimizations.

The 5.5mm-thin device is also rumored to incorporate Apple's power-efficient C1 modem and lack an Ultra Wide camera, which could potentially provide more internal space for a larger battery. We'll know for sure when the device replaces the "Plus" model in Apple's iPhone 17 lineup, which is expected to launch around mid-September, per Apple's typical fall release schedule.

Article Link: iPhone 17 Air Battery Capacity and Weight Allegedly Revealed

After being on the 15 Pro Max for nearly two years, I plan to return to the Pro size. I wanted to try the larger phone, but it isn't necessary for my use cases at any weight. I want to see how the 17 Air plays out for the 18 or 19 of the future.

 

[dampfnudel]

We’ve been hearing about improved battery tech coming for the regular iPhones for years now.

 

[MacLoveMacHate]

Isn’t it paradoxical to design an ultrathin iPhone only to need a battery case to get through the day? It seems to contradict the whole purpose of making the device slimmer, prioritizing elegance and portability, only to bulk it up again for basic functionality.

*laughs in iphone 17 Pro*

 

[snipr125]

Well to start with, mAh it’s pretty much a useless way to measure batteries anyway. It doesn’t really say anything about how long the battery will last, as literally laid out in this article.
For example, if it’s a new high density battery at 2800 mah, it’s going to perform significantly better than, for example, the 2800 mah battery in the iPhone 12.
As for why it’s not a significantly higher capacity battery, there could be many reasons for that. Weight, heat, cost, silicon efficiency, there are a bunch of factors.

Yes but the iPhone 12 has a 6.1" 60 hz display. Now put the same size battery into the 17 Air with a 6.6" Promotion 120 hz display - probably proportionately worse battery life tbh. The weight being the same as the 12/13 Mini is pretty incredible though, just a shame the battery life will probably also be the same!

 

[Ronald Reagan]

Hard to see this generating much excitement, when it’s a mere handful clamoring something like this, much like the Vision Pro. Save a few grams for something that only subtracts from an iPhone Pro?

 

[ab2c4]

5.1 ounces is fantastic! I won't be buying it though as I don't want a phone that big. I would definitely be interested in a 6.1" to 6.3" Air though.

The battery size is irrelevant to me as I have a charging cable both at home and at work.

 

[ksec]

Sorry I cant stop laughing when I read who is asking for them and then "Steve Job's Cousin". 😂

 

[ksec]

A19 should be more efficient under same work load , 120hz Pro Motion should also uses less power during normal ( low refresh rate ) usage. C1 Modem. Theoretically Apple could tune the iPhone Air to be more energy efficiency focused. Having a 15% battery increase at 3200mAh should in theory give similar battery life as current iPhone 16 which has 3561mAh.

Worth remembering the 17 Air only has one camera. Unless Apple uses Silicon Carbon battery which happens to cost slightly less than an additional camera lens, Apple would actually earn more on iPhone Air if they don't use it. Which is quite unusual. They will also need the Air to test out the Silicon Carbon Battery as well as increasing production capacity.

And then imagine iPhone 18 Air, A20 on 2nm, again even more efficient. May be better more efficient Display ( likely too early and only on iPhone 19 ). C2 Modem. And 2nd Generation Silicon Carbon Battery at 3800mAh. All of a sudden you have an iPhone Air that has better battery life than current iPhone 16 Pro.

 

[joshwithachance]

If the A19 is THIS efficient, I can't even begin to imagine how ABSURD(ly amazing) the battery life will be on the 17 Pro Max...

With that said, 2800mAh is still too small no matter how advanced the tech and/or efficiency is (imo).

 

[FranApple]

I’m still really struggling to figure out who this is for.

 

[GioGiusi]

2800mAh + high density = something more like 3200mAh. Add into that efficiency improvements from the A19 of another 10-15% and you get something roughly equivalent to iPhone 16 battery life. Significantly less than 16 Plus, but pretty similar to 16. I'd say that's more than acceptable for the design they are able to achieve here. A 6.6" display with a case only 5mm thick and 145 grams is hugely impressive. Going to be the first enjoyable iPhone to hold in years.

 

[GioGiusi]

I’m still really struggling to figure out who this is for.

This model literally has all the attention and focus of the tech media for the last year. It isn't that hard to understand that people want form factor improvements, and want something that is more comfortable to hold and tote around. The 16 Pro Max is a god awful brick. I want something that was actually designed to be held in the hand by a human being. Not an afterthought.

 

[Lounge vibes 05]

Yes but the iPhone 12 has a 6.1" 60 hz display. Now put the same size battery into the 17 Air with a 6.6" Promotion 120 hz display - probably proportionately worse battery life tbh. The weight being the same as the 12/13 Mini is pretty incredible though, just a shame the battery life will probably also be the same!

I don’t know why you would think this, apple’s OLEDs have made efficiency gains since 2020, and 120 Hz is actually better for battery life given that it’s adaptable, meaning it can go up to 120, but down to just 1 when not being used.
Compare that to today’s 60 Hz iPhones which are always running at 60 Hz no matter what.

 

[Lounge vibes 05]

This model literally has all the attention and focus of the tech media for the last year. It isn't that hard to understand that people want form factor improvements, and want something that is more comfortable to hold and tote around. The 16 Pro Max is a god awful brick. I want something that was actually designed to be held in the hand by a human being. Not an afterthought.

Yeah, I don’t really get the criticism, a lot of it just feels like MR posters regular pattern of “Apple bad, no one wants this” based on nothing.
Between 2012 and 2022, Apple‘s flagship iPhone has gone from 112G to 240G. The most heavy iPhone, the 14 Pro Max, is literally double the weight of the iPhone 5, and even if we are just comparing the plus/Max version the original 6+ was still about 70G lighter and 2 MM thinner than today’s Pro Max’s.
For a device whose main function is portability, it is the one area where all phones have gotten significantly worse.

 

[nicmart]

As the owner of a 12 mini, I'll never buy another phone with a battery that lasts just a few hours. I have to carry around an extra Anker battery if I go out for the day. I'd rather keep the mini for Apple essentials and buy a $400 Android with a 5,000mAh battery for the grunt work, like Google Maps and Uber. The battery on my M2 MacBook Air is sensational, but Apple hasn't done the same with phones. Apple Intelligence will always be off.

 

[sleeptodream]

Very disappointed in the weight to be honest. I was really hoping for a return to something closer to the iPhone 5 weight or at least no heavier than a 12 mini. But of course they still had to make it huge… so I guess 145g is the best we can hope for these days.

This is smack in between the weight of an iPhone 6 and a 6 Plus, that’s a featherweight at this screen size! The 6 Plus is already very very light

 

[svish]

If weight is around what is mentioned, it will be great. However not happy to hear about the battery. Not sure how much the C1 chip will be useful. But I think Apple will announce a battery life similar to that of the base models.