'iPhone 17 Air' is Step Towards Slimmer iPhones Without USB-C Ports

[Lucas Curious]

I guess with magsafe you don't really need a usb-c port?

MagSafe heats up the phone which then throttles the charge speed or the phone may want to pause. SO you cant charge fast. Also if you were using GPS and MagSafe charge at same time, this heats the phone and you have this issue again.

I noticed there is a big mindset difference between people who stay at home a lot and people who travel and are out and about. The travelers need fast convenient charging and reliability. I need to be able to plug in, get a fast charge and unplug in 20 min. I cant wait around for slow charging or phone overheating and pausing charge. The USB port is very necessary and I wont buy a phone without it unless they can give me a very realistic all day use battery in the smallest phone and even then I have to carry around a MagSafe charger when I travel?

 

[cdsapplefan]

Well Apple 🍎 did up the MagSafe wireless charging speed from 15w to 25w for the 16 series, so they are preparing for a port less future iPhone model. 📱

 

[Cunir]

Maybe then it will be fully waterproof too, so we can finally surf in the bath

 

[polyphenol]

If you're downloading movies or photos from your iPhone to your computer, is there a significant loss of speed if you need to use WiFi rather than USB 3?

Wi-Fi 8 at 100,000 Mbit/s wouldn't lose much speed!

I don't think anything else in my house can get near that over any external connection.

 

[MayaUser]

Will never buy a phone without connector. Stupid idea only Apple seems to be pushing

i bet you said that about no headphone jack...when the industry will offer just phones without this....you will buy ...so never say never

 

[WhackyNinja]

So like

Are we gonna get a wireless CarPlay adapter for those who use wired CarPlay

 

[damnhandy]

This is a bad idea... how will you charge such a phone while traveling in cars or on an airplane?

Very likely how Apple addresses this today by providing you with a charging cable. If this is true, I'd expect Apple to include a Magesafe charger in the box instead of a USB-C cable. It's not that insane.

The funny thing is that I now rarely charge my phone via USB-C and use Magesafe 90% of the time. My night stand is Magsafe, both cars have wireless charging. It's not the problem folks are making this out to be. Kind of like now headphone jack because everything uses Bluetooth. Plus, this is only talking about 1 new model that will compliment the other 3 iPhone models that would still have a USB-C port.

 

[MayaUser]

MagSafe heats up the phone which then throttles the charge speed or the phone may want to pause. SO you cant charge fast. Also if you were using GPS and MagSafe charge at same time, this heats the phone and you have this issue again.

I noticed there is a big mindset difference between people who stay at home a lot and people who travel and are out and about. The travelers need fast convenient charging and reliability. I need to be able to plug in, get a fast charge and unplug in 20 min. I cant wait around for slow charging or phone overheating and pausing charge. The USB port is very necessary and I wont buy a phone without it unless they can give me a very realistic all day use battery in the smallest phone and even then I have to carry around a MagSafe charger when I travel?

even with the cable until you charge until 80% the phones heats up...nothing new. Also inductive chargers from cars without ventilation heats up the phone as well

 

[contacos]

No thanks. My phone already supports 50w wireless charging and I never use it. Can't really use the device while charging either

 

[MayaUser]

I love people here....deva vu for me...same complaints when Apple removed optical drive and headphone jacks...5 years later nobody is complaining

 

[damnhandy]

MagSafe heats up the phone which then throttles the charge speed or the phone may want to pause. SO you cant charge fast. Also if you were using GPS and MagSafe charge at same time, this heats the phone and you have this issue again.

I noticed there is a big mindset difference between people who stay at home a lot and people who travel and are out and about. The travelers need fast convenient charging and reliability. I need to be able to plug in, get a fast charge and unplug in 20 min. I cant wait around for slow charging or phone overheating and pausing charge. The USB port is very necessary and I wont buy a phone without it unless they can give me a very realistic all day use battery in the smallest phone and even then I have to carry around a MagSafe charger when I travel?

So don't get the iPhone Air if that's important to you. The Pro line likely won't go portless for some time given that it's used by content creators and requires more bandwidth for moving data.

 

[lazyrighteye]

For those fretting the “how will we charge on a plane” or “how will I get audio to my car receiver” folks, any number of 3rd parties will create exactly the solution for any of these issues.

I’m in the camp that connected a cable to the USB port of my last three iPhone Pros, at most, a dozen times. Maybe less. I’m A-OK moving away from ports.

That said… A way to connect cabled headphones and external mics, drives, and the like, would be the areas I’m most curious to see 3rd party solutions. Does not seem insurmountable.

 

[STOCK411]

I love people here....deva vu for me...same complaints when Apple removed optical drive and headphone jacks...5 years later nobody is complaining

Lol.
I still make a local secure backup of my iPhone on my mac.

Tell me how i do that without a port?

 

[Miss Terri]

MagSafe heats up the phone ...

I just now started using the first iPhone of mine to have Magsafe. So I bought a Magsafe charger. Main reason is I've had the problem in older phones where (no matter how delicately careful I am) the charging port eventually gets wonky (first you have to wiggle the cord, then eventually it doesn't work at all). For that reason, I was like great, an alternative way to charge!

BUT, wow does Magsafe (with official Apple Magsafe charging cord and offical Apple case on phone) ever make things warm. Heat is never good for battery life. So now I'm back to using the Lightning port to charge because I think the Magsafe created heat must not be doing good things for the battery. (I guess I'll still have it as a backup if the charging port fails).

This is also my first iPhone without a headphone jack. Which is very annoying! (Tried Airpods Pro 2, could never get them to skip songs, change volume, etc. without picking up and looking at my phone and hunting and pecking. Went back to wired headhphones (ahhh), tho now they need a dongle to connect them to the very Lighting port I don't want to overstress and have break. SIGH.)

/rant

 

[kwikdeth]

you can use your phone while is charing with the cable...that means is really wireless?
Almost every car has this, and it will have. Until the whole industry will adopt this , all new cars will have inductive charging by default

You're fooling yourself if you think car makers won't use this opportunity to force you in to buying multi-thousand-dollar "technology package" upgrades to get a basic functionality

 

[Lounge vibes 05]

Isn’t MagSafe charging less efficient than cable charging thus more expensive and subsequently will generate a higher electric bill?

Technically, yes, but we are probably talking about fractions of cents

 

[STOCK411]

For those fretting the “how will we charge on a plane” or “how will I get audio to my car receiver” folks, any number of 3rd parties will create exactly the solution for any of these issues.

I’m in the camp that connected a cable to the USB port of my last three iPhone Pros, at most, a dozen times. Maybe less. I’m A-OK moving away from ports.

That said… A way to connect cabled headphones and external mics, drives, and the like, would be the areas I’m most curious to see 3rd party solutions. Does not seem insurmountable.

Again its not truly wireless charging since you are using a charging pad that has wires.


True wireless charging is something like the below.

 

[smulji]

you can use your phone while is charing with the cable...that means is really wireless?
Almost every car has this, and it will have. Until the whole industry will adopt this , all new cars will have inductive charging by default

Not everyone can afford a brand new car

 

[Lounge vibes 05]

Not everyone can afford a brand new car

I don’t claim to know what their plans are, and personally I don’t even know if removing the port is that good of an idea at this moment in time.
But when Apple removed the CD drive from the first MacBook Air, they sold an external super drive.
When Apple removed the headphone jack, they included an adapter in the box.
When they switched from 30 pin to lightning, they released an adapter for old accessories.
Given that there are already third-party adapters on the market that turn wired CarPlay into wireless CarPlay, it’s not that big of a stretch to imagine that Apple would just sell a first party adapter of their own.

 

[npmacuser5]

My iPhone 14, cannot remember ever using the lightening port. I did check it today, it works.

 

[I/0]

Cars have wireless chargers and ports for ones wireless chargers.

That’s isn’t near a full replacement, besides charging it’s very important for restore and recovery, just ask anyone who had their Apple TV bricked by an update with no way to recover it without taking it to an Apple Store.

 

[Churchman]

MagSafe heats up the phone which then throttles the charge speed or the phone may want to pause. SO you cant charge fast. Also if you were using GPS and MagSafe charge at same time, this heats the phone and you have this issue again.

I noticed there is a big mindset difference between people who stay at home a lot and people who travel and are out and about. The travelers need fast convenient charging and reliability. I need to be able to plug in, get a fast charge and unplug in 20 min. I cant wait around for slow charging or phone overheating and pausing charge. The USB port is very necessary and I wont buy a phone without it unless they can give me a very realistic all day use battery in the smallest phone and even then I have to carry around a MagSafe charger when I travel?

Right. Right!!

With MagSafe, my phone gets so freakishly hot. So I stopped using it. I only use a cable to charge my phone now.

If Apple gives us that all day battery or …. Or if Apple perfects that so-called “water cooled” tech or whatever it is to better manage heat while also ensuring MagSafe does not turn a phone into cooking surface, I would be happy.

 

[purplefox]

lol I think Apple should come up with a new, even thinner proprietary connector just to piss off the EU.

That's a joke, maybe.

But no charging port? Not a fan.

(I mean, I'm not a fan of no charging port, not that in addition to charging ports, there also shouldn't be a cooling fan in high-powered computing devices.)

I was suspicious Apple would eventually come up with a plan to revenge the EU killing the lightning connector. Of course, they can't create another proprietary connector, but they obviously will remove the usb-c and make EU regulator seethe.

 

[yannxou]

This is the first step so they can sell a wireless charger to usb-c adapter

 

[Avenged110]

Causing a problem where none need exist. Even if it wasn't an issue 95% of the time (doubtful), that last 5% would be infuriating to deal with since it's a needlessly manufactured limitation. Much like the dumb removal of the 1/8" audio jack.