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As Long as it has 120hz (even though promotion barely hits that) and AOD, I'll be dumping the Pro phone in a heartbeat for this new designed iPhone.

The utter greedy lazy useless design team run by Jeff "bean counter" Williams will once again have the pro models using the same design for 6 years and the same camera design for 7 years.

Disgraceful, and the fact is the Pro models really aren't worth the cost anymore.
 
As a result, the iPhone 17 Air's battery will not be able to be as thin as Apple first intended for the device's new design. Now, the iPhone 17 Air battery will purportedly be around 6mm thick, suggesting that the device itself will be thicker than this. Apple's thinnest ever iPhone was the iPhone 6 at 6.9mm, meaning that the iPhone 17 "Slim" is unlikely to be much thinner than the 2014 flagship.

8 pages later...has anybody pointed out this is ridiculous (it would be by far the thickest iPhone battery in a decade, iPhone batteries are not that frickin' thick, they're like 3mm to 4.5mm) and it must for sure be a translation error?

I bet "around 6mm thick" refers to the thickness of the whole phone.

So yes, that would make the 17 Air the thinnest iPhone ever.
 
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Sad to see Apple returning to this dumb, played-out, product-crippling gimmick. All it does is reduce battery capacity; and it's a fraud anyway, because the camera lenses still stick way out.

Just make the back flush with the lenses and use the extra space for battery. But nope, they never learn.
 
This must be Apple's new sales trick instead of bringing some true innovation. It will basically be another SE model but a pricey iteration. To buy an expensive single-camera phone in year 2025 for just 1-2 mm less thickness, you must be either really dumb or somebody with little interest in photography or videography.
 
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Instead make a Pro Mini (or Mini Pro, whatever) with no compromise other than battery. Not everyone is an avid gamer or all day watching media who needs extra battery power. About 30% less capacity vs 17 Pro will suffice for 17 Pro Mini.

Previous Mini models failed in sales figures, because they were positioned discouragingly expensive vs standard ones. If 17 Pro Mini could be priced 10% less than 17 Pro, then it will hit success.
 
So don’t buy the thick phone, buy the thin one. I’m just saying that thick should be an option.
I assumed you meant Apple should make all iPhones thicker, rather than just one among the yearly lineup that's thicker than the rest. That would make sense for a lot of people.
 
If they still sold 5s with new processor and more ram, and same NON-OVERPROCESSING camera, I would have grabbed it even if they sold it for 1000$. Yet they seem to have lost their way.

Thinness doesn’t always equal to better handling. What matters is display size, and selling 6.1+ slates as “norm” doesn’t mean users love it.

If I wanted iPad in my hand I would have already had Mini 7, BUT I DON’T. Why Apple cannot understand you need A PHONE, and not a phone from 1990s. Phablet is truly the worst invention of the modern society.

People have forgotten how phones have looked just less than 20 years ago. Yeah those were thick, but nevertheless light and were perfectly sitting in pockets. Manufacturers never cared about how thin the batteries were or how to fit in all the motherboard components, most of these ancient mobiles still work and even have user replaceable batteries. And now we all have same ugly slates that we need to replace each time Apple breaks something with update or when battery dies (and modern batteries die 10x faster than older ones. “Progress”! And “sustainability”. Apple should be proud of how efficiently they use lithium).

It is a pity the only compact device you can buy today is a used ancient phone with no access to modern apps or even 4G network
Or at least allow the ecosystem to work with me having *just* a watch and an iPad. It's absurd to think I would need all three of these when there is so much overlap. watch with headphones and I should be able to fully function but no, they require you to also have a phone.
 
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Or at least allow the ecosystem to work with me having *just* a watch and an iPad. It's absurd to think I would need all three of these when there is so much overlap. watch with headphones and I should be able to fully function but no, they require you to also have a phone.
In fact we are getting to square one back again: why do we still have to rely on Watch app+Apple watch combo for updates and all the features? We already have Apple Watch 10 and they still haven’t made it a truly standalone device. This is one of the reasons I still don’t have one, apart from the other reasons that I hate wearing things – chains, rings, watches. But thats only me😃
 
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