They haven't made one in nearly 4 years!
It's impossible to know if a concept will sell if you don't offer it.
Are we going to be TEN years down the line and folks still saying "smaller phones don't sell"?
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iPhone 17 Base Model Rumored to Feature Larger Display
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They haven't made one in nearly 4 years!
It's impossible to know if a concept will sell if you don't offer it.
Are we going to be TEN years down the line and folks still saying "smaller phones don't sell"?
People should spend their precious time getting over the long dead Mini and adjusting to the current offerings instead of complaining about it on every minor occasion. I am looking forward to the grown base 17.
I think it could be a massive hit. I remember when 6S and 6S Plus came out, hardly anyone was really buying the Plus and 70% of buyers went for the 6S. As you said, it's about positioning of the product - IMO main reason why 12 Mini and 13 Mini didn't sell that well were current offerings at the time and the price. People started spending more and more time glued to their screens, so of course more people prefer larger displays nowadays, but let's say they make a 13 Mini sized iPhone with edge to edge screen (and no notch or island) and if they gave people only two choices (either Mini sized or Plus sized), I think it wouldn't be as big of a difference in sales between the two as it was with 6S and 6S Plus, but worst case scenario would be 50/50. Their iPhone line up currently is a total mess, could use a clean up. Two models, one smaller one bigger, and maybe a third true "Pro" model for those who need gigantic phone with 5 gigantic lenses. Of course, majority will disagree with this because they're just happy with phablets and don't see why shouldn't anyone bother finding a way to make the "Mini" work.
If we listen to the usual breathless arguments here against Apple making another mini, then the rumors about the foldable iPhone must be pure fiction, because there would be too few people buying it to justify Apple's costs.
I don't even know why costs should come into these discussions honestly.
Apple are taking a flamethrower to cash with AppleTV+ losing 1B per year, the wasted efforts on the Scuba Mask and the Car project ... among plenty of other failures and distractions over time.
I came to read comments about the upcoming base 17 not about Mini fans who still live in the past and are simply offended by Apple not catering to their demands (seriously how dare they?).
I love when people say "this is the new normal size in today's world" - I call that horse crap. Your hands didn't grow suddenly to the point where this brick of a phone feels comfortable.
With Apple getting 20 billion, per year, for free (sorry, by setting a default) from Google, that 1 billion doesn't seem like much.
Ever since the iPhone 6 Plus I never had a desire to return to a smaller phone. I like to have the proper screen size to watch movies, play games, etc and whenever I try going to my old iPhone 5 or even the 6 I can just never. I understand it’s your preference for getting a smaller model but unfortunately Apple tried doing that and it didn’t work out to well for them.
Yes! You've made my point.
Cost shouldn't come into a smaller iPhone option being available.
Folks aren't even asking for something "top of the line" or released every year..
Literally just something that isn't huge and allows to stay relatively current.
You watch movies on a "phone"? I watch movies on a TV, or in a cinema, or on a laptop, or even projector. Never watched movies on a phone. Maybe a tablet at most, which is still more suited for that than a phablet. Whenever I have a longer flight I take a laptop with me. Play games? I play Slither.io on the loo, so I can't relate to gaming part, sorry, but the screen size of my SE 2016 is perfectly fine for a quick slither. You do you, I'm not trying to take it away from you and I try to understand some of the needs you have when choosing a larger phone, but then you were in the minority of buyers at the time, as over 70% of people bought the 6 and I think 77% bought the 6S.
This is just tiring, Apple pushing for bigger screens and those who love them thinking the only options should be big and bigger.
How much is Apple losing on their yearly fines in EU? Does anyone have the numbers?
In all honesty, if Apple can afford to flush billions in down the drain for the flop of a product that Apple Vision Pro is/was, they can afford to at least break even after releasing another Mini-sized Pro iPhone (iPhone, not an iPhablet, an actual phone).
How much is Apple losing on their yearly fines in EU? Does anyone have the numbers?
Just getting going ...
The "flamethrower of cash" going out the door is only getting warmed up on that topic it would appear.
At some point physics come into play. I for one, won't be buying anything that big and if there is no option from Apple, I will get something else. I don't need a huge screen on my phone. In fact, it is more uncomfortable than anything else. So I vote with my wallet and everyone should do precisely that, instead of "adapting" to a vision by some execs who think everyone should like a big screen.
And I used to upgrade yearly until they started to increase sizes. I would have had at least 3 generations if not 4 between iPhone X and iPhone 13 mini, but I skipped them all because it's uncomfortable. My physical comfort is far more important to me than anything else. Priorities.
If Apple put a phone modem in an iPad mini I'd buy it in a minute and call it good. Of course that would kill sales and they'll never do it.
I think I should start selling MagSafe compatible backpacks for the ever growing iPhones. You guys who love the Pro Max Plus Ultra phablets from Apple, would you buy a backpack from me?
And for those who buy the E model (without Magsafe), I got you too:
I get what you are saying. And I am not saying you're wrong. But I have to imagine Apple's bean counters have the ear of Cook these days. I am guessing that it has simply become more finically prudent for Apple to build larger iPhone, charge a much higher price for them, increase global market share (big phones are huge in China) and slowly move away from the budget sector altogether. It probably cost Apple about the same (relatively speaking of course) to make a mini iPhone versus a Pro size. Since they can rake in much higher margins on the bigger iPhones, my guess is that they have just decided to abandon the mini/budget platform altogether.
But maybe I am wrong and we will see a mini iPhone in the next year or so. But my fear is that even if we do, won't be the cheap/budget minded phone that people expect. It will be some special anniversary edition that will cost more than the regular version.
This ^
I appreciate you highlighting this.
It's not really about what people might want or would buy ... it's simply about maximum bean counting.
At least we can be honest about that -- thank you
I think you may have misunderstood my comment, I despise big phones.
Enough already with bigger screens every year, it’s getting ridiculous. What’s next, 8” for the base model?