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there's no more excitement about iPhones anymore, sorry , if Apple also pass the 25% tariff to customers, im done; and im pretty sure so other loyal customers too.
 
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I like how everyone is poo pooing the small screen crowd instead of asking why the multi trillion dollar company holds features back instead of making one line of phones. iPhone should be premium features across the board.

5.6”, 6.3”, 6.9” should all be options on one lineup with the best features. The smaller phone can be thinner on cameras, but don’t tell me they can’t flush fit the back to give us all day battery.
 
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I don't know why so many people don't understand Apple isn't going to make something very few people buy.

But then they made the AVP 🤷‍♂️

Jokes aside, "few" in apple's lingo is still millions of units.
Lots of other companies would consider millions of units sold to be a smashing sucess.
 
Apple & all the other smart phone companies have convinced the general public that bigger screens = more immersive experiences when the reality is that they haven’t figured out how to make a small battery in that can reliably last a day of average use. Currently, smaller batteries = shorter capacity = disappointed customers = disappointing sales.

Until battery tech improves capacity in much smaller packages, we’ll keep being sold the idea that bigger screens are the way to go. Once they figure out how to make the smaller battery, watch Apple tote smaller phones as the latest and greatest.
 
there's no more excitement about iPhones anymore, sorry , if Apple also pass the 25% tariff to customers, im done; and im pretty sure so other loyal customers too.

I can't see a scenario where apple don't pass on some sort of price increase to hedge against the tariffs
 
I can't see a scenario where apple don't pass on some sort of price increase to hedge against the tariffs
And likely so will every other phone manufacturer — Samsung and Google included — facing the same tariffs. It’s just a matter of who jumps first.
 
And likely so will every other phone manufacturer — Samsung and Google included — facing the same tariffs. It’s just a matter of who jumps first.

Apple aren't shy at all about showing leadership in instigating these sorts of changes, and the others just follow.

That said, samsung will have their annual unfold event in july, and google will announce their next pixels in august. So it'd be interesting to see if either of those set the stage before apple do.

It'd also be interesting to see how they price outside of the US, it's quite possible that they lift pricing across the board to "subsidise" the US.
It wouldn't even be hard to do since most currencies appreciated against the USD they just have to keep prices the same as 2024.
 
Apple aren't shy at all about showing leadership in instigating these sorts of changes, and the others just follow.

That said, samsung will have their annual unfold event in july, and google will announce their next pixels in august. So it'd be interesting to see if either of those set the stage before apple do.

It'd also be interesting to see how they price outside of the US, it's quite possible that they lift pricing across the board to "subsidise" the US.
It wouldn't even be hard to do since most currencies appreciated against the USD they just have to keep prices the same as 2024.

Seems like wishful thinking for a country heading towards Weimar Republic inflation
 
It’s true that the mini size sold the least. But also there was no small Pro model, carriers barely promoted the mini, and the SE2 of similar size came out just a few month before the mini, and was cheaper. It’s unclear what the result would have been if there had been a mini Pro and if you add the sales numbers of the SE. Furthermore, if all of this hadn’t happened during the pandemic where people visited physical stores less and therefore had less opportunity to experience how the mini feels in the hand.
This times 1000.
Remember everyone. The Pandemic happened. Do you need a small phone when you're stuck inside your house?

Now what about now that we're back in the physical world and need less heavy things in our pockets? The iPhone Mini series wasn't given a fair chance. I bet the story would be very different if a new mini were released now.
 
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If the keynotes were still live, the audience should boo when they announce the bigger size. And tech journalists should be harassing Tim Cook about bringing back the mini. It probably costs Apple more to make a smaller OLED screen and smaller phone in general with less room to fit components, but it's necessary for people like me who won't upgrade purely from an ergonomic standpoint. I was shipped a free upgrade to the 16 Pro and after 5 minutes I put it back the box and returned it, because it's too damn big. I want to text/operate my phone with one hand. I want my magsafe wallet to fit uniformly with the size of the phone. My 13 mini is the perfect size (width of a credit card). If only it had USB-C, but I've learned to live without it. Apple is pissing on us and telling us it's raining when they refuse to provide us with proper size options. It's like forcing everyone to wear extra large shoes that don't fit.
 
They tried that. But hardly anyone bought it.

Apple offered the iPhone Mini for two years, along with the regular iPhone and the iPhone Pro Max.

Basically they had iPhones in Small, Medium, and Large.

But people overwhelmingly chose Medium and Large.

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They released their first small phone after 3? years of not having one.

6 months later, they released the mini to a market that had just upgraded to the SE2.

There was a pandemic in there too, so no one was wearing pants.

It's hardly a fair comparison.

The iPhone Plus didn't sell well either, but they at least keep that around because it inflates app usage and in-app purchases, which is better for Apple's bottom line.
 
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They tried that. But hardly anyone bought it.

Apple offered the iPhone Mini for two years, along with the regular iPhone and the iPhone Pro Max.

Basically they had iPhones in Small, Medium, and Large.

But people overwhelmingly chose Medium and Large.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
The unwashed masses yes
 
I hope the Air flops so hard that Apple reconsider bringing a smaller phone back to the lineup. I know I know, they didn't sell as well but with so many models in the lineup, it would seem that they're trying to cater to everyone. I just don't remember anyone asking for a thin phone.
 
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I really wish they’d stop increasing the screen sizes. My pants and shorts aren’t growing in pocket sizes… some of them now have a clear outline of where my phone sits in them and developing holes in the corners.
 
Whether or not it was a hot seller I still have my iPhone 12 Mini because I don’t want a bigger phone. So Apple doesn’t have my money, which they would if they made a smaller phone.
I'm not trying to be a jerk here in replying to your comment, however the problem with your statement is, you made it all about you. What I mean by that is, would Apple rather YOUR money or say five other people who all want bigger phones. 5 > 1. Again, we don't know the numbers, but it seems quite logical that for every person like yourself that wants the smaller phone, there's probably 5, 10, maybe even more people than that who would rather go for the bigger screen size. Money talks. This is also coming from someone who has a lady friend that strictly wants SMALLER phones, but she has succumbed to the fact that it's not based in reality. Reality is Apple makes much more money because there's simply more demand for larger phones over smaller ones.
 


Apple's iPhone 17 lineup will include four iPhones, and two of those are going to get all-new display sizes. There's the iPhone 17 Air, which we've heard about several times, but the standard iPhone 17 is also going to have a different display size.

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We've heard a bit about the updated size before, but with most rumors focusing on the iPhone 17 Air, it's easy to forget. Display analyst Ross Young today reiterated the screen sizes expected for the entire iPhone 17 lineup, and it serves as a good reminder about what to expect from Apple's lowest-priced flagship.

The iPhone 17 will feature a larger 6.27-inch display, which will make it the same size as the current iPhone 16 Pro display. With the 16 Pro and Pro Max, Apple introduced larger displays, while the 16 and 16 Plus stayed the same size as the 15 and 15 Plus.
  • iPhone 17 - 6.27-inch display, up from 6.12 inches.
  • iPhone 17 Air - 6.55 inches.
  • iPhone 17 Pro - 6.27-inch display, identical to iPhone 16 Pro.
  • iPhone 17 Pro Max - 6.86-inch display, no change from iPhone 16 Pro Max.
Apple rounds 6.27 to 6.3 inches and 6.86 to 6.9 inches, so basically, we're going to get an iPhone 17 and iPhone 17 Pro that are 6.3 inches, and the iPhone 17 Pro Max at 6.9 inches. The iPhone 17 Air has a new display size that Apple will likely round to 6.6 inches. It will be slightly smaller than the 6.7-inch display of the iPhone 16 Plus it replaces.

Aside from that new display size, the iPhone 17 is shaping up to be the iPhone with the fewest changes in 2025. The iPhone 17 Pro models and the iPhone 17 Air are rumored to have a new horizontal rear camera bar, but the iPhone 17 camera will look the same as the iPhone 16 camera.

There are features to look forward to though, such as the 120Hz ProMotion refresh rate that's rumored to be expanding to the entire iPhone 17 lineup, an improved 24-megapixel selfie camera, and a faster A19 chip.

Article Link: iPhone 17 Display Sizes: What to Expect
Do Apple think peoples hands are getting bigger each year? I struggle to use my current iPhone. Can we not have some smaller phones please.
 
Yeah we don't know the actual numbers.

But if the Mini was such a hot seller... don't you think they'd keep it?

🤔
I don't know why so many people don't understand Apple isn't going to make something very few people buy.
Whether it’s the iPhone Mini, 27” iMac, etc.—whenever a device that someone cares about is discontinued, to them it was because of factors other than low demand, and sometimes a conspiracy. And then for those who don’t care about the device and are annoyed at others clamoring for its return, it was discontinued because there was no demand, end of story, so no one should ever express wish for the device again.

But the truth is we don’t know why a company makes a particular decision unless they tell us. We can point to this or that sales estimate etc., but while it’s likely that low demand is at least a major reason for the iPhone Mini’s discontinuation because that’s usually the case, the world is complicated. Data comparisons can have unrealized biases. Companies can have non-obvious business strategies that discontinue higher demand products and push lower demand products (eg. because of lower vs higher profit, or long term business goals). And in our world, reasons are often a mixed bag. So while we can make probable guesses, ultimately we don’t really know exactly what goes into Apple’s decisions.

I understand this is a forum and people just like to debate, which is fine (I like to as well), but it’s incorrect to think we can come to definite conclusions about many of the things we debate, such as this.
 
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