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Those hoping for significantly faster wired charging speeds with the iPhone 17 lineup this year might be disappointed, if the latest rumor is true.

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A render of the iPhone 17 Pro's alleged camera design

In a note with investment firm GF Securities, obtained by MacRumors this week, Apple supply chain analyst Jeff Pu said the iPhone 17, iPhone 17 Air, iPhone 17 Pro, and iPhone 17 Pro Max will all support up to 35W wired charging speeds.

Last year, ChargerLAB found that the iPhone 16 Pro models achieved maximum sustained charging speeds of around 30W. In one image, the website showed the iPhone 16 Pro Max reaching a peak charging speed of 37W with Apple's 140W USB-C power adapter, but it is unclear how long the device kept charging at that speed.

PhoneArena saw similar results with the standard iPhone 16. In its review last year, it said that device reached a peak charging speed of 38W when it was "under extremely heavy loads such as benchmark testing or playing games." The website said the iPhone 16 achieved a sustained charging speed of closer to 20W.

All in all, with the iPhone 16 and iPhone 16 Pro models already reaching peak wired charging speeds in the 35W range, it sounds like there will be no significant improvement to wired charging speeds with any of the iPhone 17 models.

Pu did not reveal wireless MagSafe charging speeds for any iPhone 17 models. iPhone 16 models can charge at up to 25W with MagSafe.

Article Link: iPhone 17 Lineup Rumored to Support Up to 35W Charging Speeds
 
If Jon Prosser didn't say it, it's not true.
The way things have been going lately, if Jon Prosser said it, it isn’t true
Look at that camera layout, that’s ridiculous. The current layout is optimized right down to the placement of the flash, mic and LiDAR and this awful render totally messes it up.
 
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They said the 25w MagSafe was faster charging using MagSafe and its no faster than the old one, so doubt it
 
If this is true, that's huge. I'd be obliged to upgrade based on this versus the standard camera upgrade, thinner bezels, etc.
 
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All I know is that all this fast and wireless charging has made my iPhone 15 Pro's battery health drop quite fast. 10% between launch day and today.

With my Apple Watch Series 10, I went back to the old charging cables with USB-A and I only keep fast charging for when I really need it, and this is the only advice I can give to people. I'm not for putting a charging limit on it because I sometimes need the full 100% capacity and I don't want to be thinking about my phone's battery all the time, but using a normal USB-A charger doesn't require thinking about all the time.
 

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In a note with investment firm GF Securities, obtained by MacRumors this week, Apple supply chain analyst Jeff Pu said the iPhone 17, iPhone 17 Air, iPhone 17 Pro, and iPhone 17 Pro Max will all support up to 35W wired charging speeds.

This is great if true but Qi2 seems to have killed Apple's MFi program. To my knowledge, third parties have not announced any iPhone stands that support 25 watts. I can't blame these companies for thinking that Qi2 is good enough and serves the entire market. Apple should sell its own stand. Apple's 25 watt puck subverts Apple's goal of its customers owning several Apple products, including AirPods and the Watch.
 
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If they reduce the capacity of the battery, that will reduce charging time, reduce weight and make the phone cheaper to produce.

A win-win solution 🤣
 
If this is true, that's huge. I'd be obliged to upgrade based on this versus the standard camera upgrade, thinner bezels, etc.
Did you even read the article?
The article says that the current iPhone 16 Pro can use as much as 38 W.
The rumor in this report is that the new iPhone 17 line will charge at 35 W.
How is that “huge”?
This year‘s phone will charge just as fast as last year‘s phone.
 
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All I know is that all this fast and wireless charging has made my iPhone 15 Pro's battery health drop quite fast. 10% between launch day and today.

With my Apple Watch Series 10, I went back to the old charging cables with USB-A and I only keep fast charging for when I really need it, and this is the only advice I can give to people. I'm not for putting a charging limit on it because I sometimes need the full 100% capacity and I don't want to be thinking about my phone's battery all the time, but using a normal USB-A charger doesn't require thinking about all the time.
That’s not fast at all.
Apple advertises 1000 battery cycles before your battery needs to be replaced, in other words 79% health after 1,000 cycles.
The fact that you are at 90% health with over 500 cycles is very, very good.
My launch day 15 PM is also around 500 cycles… With 86% battery health, and I charge it fast, slow and wirelessly, depending on the day or time.
As for using fast chargers, wireless chargers, or slow chargers, there has been experiment after experiment on this. With Apple’s charging management in software, there is barely a difference.
And when there is a difference, it’s inconclusive.
For every phone that dramatically drops in battery health because of the use of fast chargers, there’s a phone that has only been charged slowly, but loses the same amount of battery health in the same time.
 
If that's the camera layout they're going for this year, that is so ugly.

But hey, you get to charge your ugly phone faster.
The flash is further from the lens 🥳🥳🥳 than on other phones. A pity the flashes on these phones are so comically weak it is only useful a few feet from the subject. Still, the flash place away from the lens is a win for me.
 
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If that's the camera layout they're going for this year, that is so ugly.

But hey, you get to charge your ugly phone faster.
That's a feature. The phone is sitting out in plain view while it charges. This way you can get it back in your pocket and out of sight faster.
 
Unrelated to the article at hand, but I don't get the new backside design. If Apple isn't going to redesign the camera layout, this just looks like design change for the sake of looking new. If the rumored Air design pans out with the rumored AoD/ProMotion panel from the 16 Pros, that seems like the best design with the single lens layout. Looks the cleanest anyhow.
 
I feel I'm becoming this grumpy anti-Apple gremlin. But I've paid 2000$, out of my own pocket for the a iPhone. I have a M1 12.9 iPad Pro..and I'm getting a MacBook Prod this sommer so...here goes.

Apple is 3 generations "behind" with their phone hw....from where they used to be at least. The 16 is for all purposes intent the same as the 14. But even the 16 is "stale" compared to the biggest Android competitors. 60hz? Slow charging? In 2025? The Pros not a pro anymore...it's just got one camera more.

Fine....I'll say it. There's nothing sexy about an iPhone anymore. Its a TupperWare box...it's sort of a Playmo car. It's becoming a generic store brand of a phone. It was always sexy. ALWAYS. Its always been its main selling point. It was cool. Its not anymore.

I used to love spending money on a phone....now it's like buying a....dishwasher.

And I'm not using AI against Apple..which was the most botched release of anything they've ever done. Not because it's bad, per se, but because how high they went during the theatre presentation. It's still not really here...and were getting into iphone 17 territory soon.

So....
 
Maybe the camera layout is a tiny OLED screen for notifications.
I think you’re on to something TECH WHISPERER! This would be great use of this space and considering that foldables from Apple are otw in the future, this allows them to mature this “feature” before applying it there.

Reminds me of when we called the Dynamic Island ugly before we knew it was an island and thought it was just two cutouts.

People complain about the phone wobble caused by lenses but if there was OLED display on the back for notifications I’d be very happy.

I have a feeling your username is not irony at all. I hear you loud and clear! :)
 
All I know is that all this fast and wireless charging has made my iPhone 15 Pro's battery health drop quite fast. 10% between launch day and today.

With my Apple Watch Series 10, I went back to the old charging cables with USB-A and I only keep fast charging for when I really need it, and this is the only advice I can give to people. I'm not for putting a charging limit on it because I sometimes need the full 100% capacity and I don't want to be thinking about my phone's battery all the time, but using a normal USB-A charger doesn't require thinking about all the time.
I'd take that "report" with a HUGE pinch of salt.

My launch day 15P still shows as 100% and the only thing for sure is that it absolutely is nowhere near as long lasting as it was originally.
 
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As for using fast chargers, wireless chargers, or slow chargers, there has been experiment after experiment on this. With Apple’s charging management in software, there is barely a difference.
And when there is a difference, it’s inconclusive.

Would appreciate it if you could provide links to those experiments or studies. I've never seen any formal, credible, long-term ones. Would be hard to do, but it would be nice to know that the different methods of charging don't have an impact.

Have you seen any such studies on the 20-80% “rule of thumb”? It would be nice to see if that was ever clearly confirmed or squarely debunked!
 
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