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Its not essential for anything it is a cost saving measure mobile devices implemented without any regard towards users.

For example OLED tvs and monitors use DC dimming with no compromises.
That’s simply not true. Because of the way that LEDs work, they will appear at different brightnesses at the same voltage level. However, the differences between different LEDs brightness is significantly less at higher voltages. This means always using a higher voltage, but then keeping the display on for less time, allows full color accuracy while also allowing display dimming. If you use DC dimming, you will always lose color accuracy unless you have separate power lines for red, blue, and green LED sub-pixels, accounting for the brightness differences for each LED type. This might be possible in a large device such as a TV (though extremely expensive and would take a massive amount of engineering to make work), but that’s simply not possible in a phone. Additionally, a capacitive touch screen makes separate power lines significantly more likely to have interference. So engineers did what engineers always do, they made a design that hit the spec, a dimmable display with color accuracy that looks identical to the vast majority of the population.
 
Its not essential for anything it is a cost saving measure mobile devices implemented without any regard towards users.

For example OLED tvs and monitors use DC dimming with no compromises.
Here is an RGB(0,0,0) to RGB(31,31,31) gradient on my LG CX OLED TV set to maximum OLED Light (brightness) in SDR mode with my DSLR camera set to 3.2 second exposure time:
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Here is the same gradient, but with the TV set to minimum brightness, but with the camera set to a 15 second exposure:
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The image quality is significantly worse at the lowest brightness setting.
There is about a 5x difference in light output between the brightest and darkest settings.

On my Pixel 8 Pro, there is about a 500x difference between the brightest and darkest settings when manually setting brightness. And it's nearly a 1000x difference if you include auto brightness when using the display under bright light.

The performance demands on a smartphone display are enormously higher. It's not about cost savings.
 
Its not essential for anything it is a cost saving measure mobile devices implemented without any regard towards users.

For example OLED tvs and monitors use DC dimming with no compromises.

Presumably if that were the case it would be enabled by default on these displays and not an option
 
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For all those hoping it’s coming to other pre-17 models I would argue let’s hope not. If it was that would mean it’s software based and there’s only so much you can do with that. Essentially turn the hardware brightness to max then dim it using software which still doesn’t work. Asus does this with their OLEDs and I tried it using Betterdisplay on a current gen MacBook Pro and it does very little.

Fair point. Although I already do this sometimes on my iPhone, with a custom shortcut for reduced white-point, combined with a high (at least 50% or higher) brightness setting it truly helps for me sometimes with eyestrain/headaches in low-light situations.

But yes, let's hope it's a true hardware solution so it could potentially completely fix the problem.
 
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Dear friends,

I am really excited about the upcoming iPhone 17. I am looking forward to it and I am constantly checking the news about it. Could you please write me more messages about why you think this new feature will be great?

I really hope that it will work perfectly and I would appreciate any encouragement you can offer. Thank you for your support.
 
This will most likely only be on the iPhone 17 generation. I’ve been waiting a long time for Apple to add an Accessibility setting for this to older generations, and it seems that it required new hardware. Probably only on the Pro and possibly the Air, but we’d need confirmation.

The only possible downsides could be slightly reduced battery life and/or color accuracy, particularly at lower brightness levels. Although I’d bet that with the time Apple has had to create a flicker-free setting color accuracy will remain virtually flawless.
Do you think it will extend the the Air? Or just the Pro?
 
I didn’t think PWM sensitivity was common issue until my wife started complaining about bad headaches and eye soreness when she used her iPhone 12 Mini. Did some research and learned more about it.

Even then, we thought it was something else for at least another 6 months.

It doesn’t happen on her iPhone 15 but even so, she’ll be thrilled with this feature!!

Great job, Apple!
That was exactly my situation as well. But after a long time my eyes got used to it. I did apply the classic measures though. Brightness set to full and then reduced the white point to at least 90% under the accessability settings. What is wierd to me is the fact that Apple to this day hasn't offered anything like it on the mac. I've really struggled with the new MBPs with OLED. That's why I returned one and got a MBA. However, I did find two great apps that address this issue very well. Black Light and Gamma Control are the names of those two. Highly recommend it. In the end I've also discovered that what bothers my eyes the most is the glare of the glossy displays. That's why I always put a matte screen protector on my iPhone/iPad.

Hope this gives you some new information.

Cheers!
 
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Hopefully the MacBook Pros oled get the same treatment

I couldn't get the iPad oled because of it
I think the issue with the iPads maybe had something to do with the tandem OLED setup. I never have had issues with any of Apple's screens but had to return the OLED iPad because it was so bad. It's possible the implementation of the PWM was radically different too tho. 100% agree however they need to make all their displays have options for people with issues. You don't realize how bad it is until you experience it first hand. Now that I have I really feel for anyone that is more sensitive than I am.
 
I think the issue with the iPads maybe had something to do with the tandem OLED setup. I never have had issues with any of Apple's screens but had to return the OLED iPad because it was so bad. It's possible the implementation of the PWM was radically different too tho. 100% agree however they need to make all their displays have options for people with issues. You don't realize how bad it is until you experience it first hand. Now that I have I really feel for anyone that is more sensitive than I am.
What other devices did you have (oled)
 
Is there a chance that the PWM toggle switch will roll out to older phones like the 15 series?
 
Is there a chance that the PWM toggle switch will roll out to older phones like the 15 series?

Maybe, but I don't think so. Apple being Apple might be quite aware they can boost the sales a bit more with this feature exclusive to iPhone 17. Or it's just available on the latest models because of an updated display controller. Nevertheless none of those cases indicates that this feature will be rolled out on older phones.
 
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First chinese reviews are out.. and WHAT A SURPRISE it's a total lie. It basically reduces modulation but doesn't remove PWM at all.

Not sure why I expected anything better from Apple tbh - cancelling my pre-order :(
 
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First chinese reviews are out.. and WHAT A SURPRISE it's a total lie. It basically reduces modulation but doesn't remove PWM at all.

Not sure why I expected anything better from Apple tbh - cancelling my pre-order :(
Modulation is a huge deal as well though so don’t completely discredit it.
 
it is.. but a result of 50% modulation is still very bad, and is not 'disabling PWM' in any shape or form.
You’re not wrong but that’s assuming what you’re looking at is accurate. Additionally, traditional there’s been differences in every model so time will tell.
 
Yes, the topic can be closed. Friends, at least Apple has started moving in this direction! See you in a few years.

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My question is, do the black bars get wider at a lower brightness? If not, this should still significantly improve comfort at lower brightness levels for most people. Perhaps the hardware can't be pushed beyond ~90% pulse width.
I suppose if the pulse width is consistent across brightness levels, they can truthfully say they don't modulate the pulse width to adjust brightness.
 
My question is, do the black bars get wider at a lower brightness? If not, this should still significantly improve comfort at lower brightness levels for most people. Perhaps the hardware can't be pushed beyond ~90% pulse width.
I suppose if the pulse width is consistent across brightness levels, they can truthfully say they don't modulate the pulse width to adjust brightness.
The wider the bars get the worse it is typically. What I’m hoping we’re seeing, and everyone is jumping the gun on, is something similar to oled tvs. All oled tvs are technically not flicker free with a slight dip that corresponds to the refresh rate but even folks extremely sensitive to pwm barely notice. This shows up as black bars on your tv as well.

Additionally, I believe oled monitors do this as well which is why they are often certified as flicker free by 3rd party companies.
 
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