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iPhone 17 Pro Launching in Three Months With These 12 New Features
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Now 100% battery on the 12 Pro Max. Got the battery replaced today. I paid for it, not under warranty, so they allowed it. Close enough to 79% I guess, for a paid replacement.
I had to go in for my kid's defective iPhone XR battery. It was just replaced 5 months ago, but they think it's now a logic board issue as there were other issues. So I traded it in and got an iPhone 16e for the kid. When I get the 17 Pro Max, I guess the 12 Pro Max will go to the younger kid instead.
I know they're saving most of the good stuff for the 18 Pro/Pro Max and beyond but this feature list is pitiful lol. Sky blue color looks cool tho
Well if you don’t manically buy a new iPhone every year it will do. Over my 13 Pro it finally represents all the cameras being upgraded and the RAM to a decent amount. Both things I’ve been waiting for.
You will regret it. While not an iPhone 16PM, my iPhone 14PM still should have done better on my last 2-3 trips.
I basically quit photography and sold everything in 2011/12, and bought a Fuji X100 (v1, before they got super exxy) to replace my Nikon and lenses.
Anyway, eventually got a Ricoh GR3 to replace it. Another APS-C sensor, but paired with a 28mm lens. Fantastic, but for wider indoor shots, or when I needed a telephoto, my iPhone PM was there.
Anyway, I recently decided to print our vacation photos in order to have memories to pass to my wife and kids (in case…), and just realized how bad my iPhone photos are compared to my APS-C cameras.
I knew they would look worse, but what really surprised me was how bad the computational photography made the photos. The automatic multi-exposure HDR that iPhones do actually ruins some photos. Sure, it looks great on iPhones, OK on iPads, and passable on a computer screen. On print? Horrendous quality. And inconsistent WB, too. The iPhone tries to assess WB correction after every shot, but ends up with a different WB for each photo, whereas a camera will produce photos with more consistent WB under the same light.
I recently got a Fuji X-M5 (the OK button on the Ricoh broke) and kept a 27mm (41mm equivalent) pancake lens on it for my entire trip to Japan, but shot wide and tele with my iPhone. I’m glad I had my iPhone, but those photos are a 6/10 while my X-M5 is like a 10/10. 🤷🏻♂️
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No regrets here.
From my 14/15/16PM I've been making photos using Apple's RAW mode, and post-process in Adobe Lightroom. That preserves far more sensor information, and gives you more image adjustment latitude when post processing than shooting in jpg.
I always get outstanding results.
Give it a try!
What citysnaps said.
Shoot RAW, hold the iPhone still, pay attention to lighting and one can capture very good photos from an iPhone 16 Pro. When one observes "how bad the computational photography made the photos" it invariably is because one or all of those three rules were not followed. When in JPEG mode when any poor technique creeps in the iPhone does its best to computationally correct for the bad technique and we see "how bad the computational photography made the photos."
One reason [in addition to the much much larger sensor, the much much larger lens, the much much larger camera body, the extra 3/4 pound of weight carried and the additional ~$1k spent] that Fuji helps you get better captures is because the shape and UI of the Fuji encourage a stable platform. Unfortunately most smartphone users now have bad smartphone camera holding technique after becoming conditioned by awful early smartphone UI.
When Apple improved smartphone UI by adding the new camera control button most folks here dissed on the whole idea. Personally I now use the camera control button for about half of my image captures and think it is a great improvement. Now if Apple could just convince consumers to use it as designed, and improve the platform of the average user...
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It is a specification, but you should be smart enough to infer that these articles don't distinguish features (software) from hardware specifications (e.g, color, dimensions, material, camera and display etc). It is just easier to call them "features".
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Titanium is pretty expensive and has higher emissions to produce. Coupled with the current state of geopolitics around the round, it make more sense to stick to a material that is easily accessible.
Your 2nd wish, "Needs to be upped to 200 megapixels and 100x zoom on the pro models.", yet you complain about camera bumps. These requires bigger sensors, and they won't be "flush" with the phone unless you want an unnecessary thick phone. Fingerprint reader is great, but FaceID is more convenient and just as secure as fingerprint readers.
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Most of the comments complaining about the design....This is a render, and is far from the dimensions in the case models or CAD drawings. Also, the real thing always ends up looking much better. From what I saw in Lew "Unbox Therapy" video, the design actually isn't that bad. It's sort of a mix of the iPad Pro M4 aluminum camera bump and the splice material design is reminiscent of iPhone 5, 5s and SE1 design (aluminum and glass back).
I recall when everyone saw the iPhone 11 Pro's leaked design, and were throwing a fit 😂, and everyone loves the design now. You will LIVE
I recall when everyone saw the iPhone 11 Pro's leaked design, and were throwing a fit 😂, and everyone loves the design now. You will LIVE
IMO this is why Apple leaks info to the likes of Gurman. To give folks a chance to whine ahead of time on fora like MR and thereby avoid major culture shock on release date.
Nobody cares about the emissions it takes to produce. Manufacturing has been fine throughout human history, and it's no different now. China isn't exactly the "golden child" behind clean energy, and Apple won't change that.
It's always amazing that the S24 Ultra has a smaller camera bump than the iPhone, yet, has those exact camera specs. You're just listing excuses for Apple to not make the camera better.
You're also forgetting the concept of choice. You can have both faceID and under display touchID on the phone. Just because Apple includes under display touchID, doesn't mean they have to get rid of FaceID entirely.
Just say YOU don’t care—manufacturing is a real factor. Apple’s under serious pressure to cut down emissions, and like it or not, China is actually ahead in a lot of green manufacturing areas. They're leading in solar panel output, electric vehicles, and even pushing greener practices in their factories. Not perfect, but not the villain either.
As for the camera bump, yeah, the S24 Ultra has a smaller one, but it also doesn’t have to deal with Apple’s FaceID hardware. That whole sensor array at the top takes up internal space, so Apple has to push things like the camera further back into the phone, making the bump more pronounced. It’s not an excuse—it’s just how the internal layout works.
Also, Apple’s clearly aiming for better camera performance over a slim profile. Bigger sensors and more complex lens systems take up space. The iPhone 16 Pro may only be 48MP compared to Samsung’s 200MP, but Apple’s using larger pixel sizes and better optics, which physically need more room. Megapixels aren’t everything.
And sure, it’d be cool to have both FaceID and under-display TouchID, but that’s not something you just slap in. It adds complexity and cost, and Apple usually doesn’t go for redundant features unless there’s a really strong reason.
People do care when it comes to emissions, most companies have a target and have to been seen to be doing something about it.
Apple improves the camera every year, they don't care about megapixels as much as other companies because it only tells part of the story. For example Samsung has a 200mp camera, some shots it looks worse than on my iPhone 15 Pro Max. Samsung phones also has 100X zoom but it's awful and not even usable. Apple doesn't chase things like that until they are ready, as a rule anyway.