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Aluminium has always been a superior material for a phone. Steel and titanium were not features, were just marketing made with the intention of upselling iPhone pro making people believe they were more premium materials. But the truth is that aluminium conducts heat better than either of them and is more lightweight, so the phone is lighter and stays cooler.
Apparently making the iPhone stiff enough, etc. using only aluminum alloys has been a challenge that Apple has now mastered. Personally, I look forward to seeing how the new iPhone pros perform.
 
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You fell for “magical titanium” so just do it again for “magical and lighter alloy”
Your comment makes it seem like you think that these awesome computers we carry in our pockets are simply Apple hyperbole. We disagree. What pray tell did you find was wrong with titanium alloy? And after the new iPhones are out you can then advise what is wrong with aluminum alloy.
 
What no one seems to talk about iis what all that extra space inside the phone created by the enlarged "camera" bump is going to be used for. It may be something quite interesting.
100% will something involving a larger periscope lens which sits in the space to the right of the camera
 
Except for the more RAM, I don't really read "improvement" in those rumors.

Aluminium? It's obviously a downgrade unless there is a really thick layer of tungsten coeating on it
A newer chip? Nice... but also hardly relevant anymore. The iPhones performance is also wasted on the device alone. An iPhone could easily dock on a 3440x1440 Display. In fact that kinda works if using RemoteDesktop. Just not with iOS.
Wifi7. Believe when I see it. Designed by Apple? Let's hope they didn't mess it up/cripple it. WiFi 7 isn't for beginners...
Video-Recording... well noted. Practically not of relevance to 99,99% of users though.
Bigger Battery? Is only good if that translates to longer runtime... not sure if it's the case here.
More Memory: That's always good to have.
Improved cooling... kind implies there is a need for it...
 
Imagine switching from titanium to aluminum just for greediness sake… just gross how they’ve developed themselves
 


The iPhone 17 Pro and iPhone 17 Pro Max are three months away, and there are plenty of rumors about the devices.

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Below, we recap key changes rumored for the iPhone 17 Pro models as of June 2025:
Check out our iPhone 17 Pro roundup for even more rumors.

Article Link: iPhone 17 Pro Launching in Three Months With These 12 New Features
We should also list “Tariff price hikes” as one of the new features for this round of iPhone upgrade cycle
 
If you understand the poor heat dissipation on the 15 and even 16 series (slightly better), you'll understand why they are going back to aluminum. Aluminum is plenty "premium" on the iPad and MacBook Pro models.
 
The purpose of 8K video recording is to provide headroom for video editing like cropping, scaling and rotating video, to still get out 4K quality after such operations.

Let em know!gotta get that disinformation outta here!


Not the aluminum AAPL uses. They are cheap!!! Charge the most and give the least. I have dropped my titanium iPhones countless times and no scratches and never broken a screen. Drop stainless and it’s scratched. Drop aluminum and it’s screwed with massive dents and broken glass. Fact!!!

Yea this titanium is def strong. Like past recent phones (14pm, 12p) it’s always the back glass breaking first these days..

  • Aluminum frame: DOWNGRADE
  • Rectangular camera bump: DOWNGRADE
  • Sky Blue finish: Meh. Didn’t like it on the MBA or the S25. How many shades of silver do we need?
  • Larger battery: Based on the battery drain of iOS 26, it better be.
  • A19 Pro chip: Duh
  • Apple-designed Wi-Fi 7 chip: Okay
  • 24-megapixel front camera: Nice, but still behind Pixel
  • 48-megapixel rear Telephoto camera: Nice
  • Dual video recording: Why?
  • 8K video recording: No one cares.
  • 12GB of RAM: Nice
  • Improved cooling: You said the same thing about the 16 Pro.


  • Aluminum frame: HUGE DOWNGRADE to a well known poison : (
  • Rectangular camera bump: meh
  • Sky Blue finish: nice
  • Larger battery: Based on the battery drain of iOS 26, it better be.
  • A19 Pro chip: Duh
  • Apple-designed Wi-Fi 7 chip: very nice. Borat
  • 24-megapixel front camera: about damn time, very Nice, but while still behind Pixel technically just be thankful it runs off iOS and not creepy droid. Gross yuck ewwww..
  • 48-megapixel rear Telephoto camera: very Nice
  • Dual video recording: meh?
  • 8K video recording: nice
  • 12GB of RAM: very nice
  • Improved cooling: must be pretty good then since 16 def improvement over whacky 15 series…

We're three months from release. The design is final at this point, hideous camera wart and all. It's NOT going to look better than this.

What amuses me is all the "Steve Jobs wouldn't do this" about THIS design, when we didn't hear nearly as much of that from the previous fugly camera warts. Jobs died in 2011, when the iPhone didn't have ANY camera wart, didn't have the idiotic notch/pill, had a headphone jack, had a home button, and didn't have the fugly flat harder to navigate iOS 7 yet. iOS 5 was released the month he died.

Would Jobs have released the garbage design that has been iPhone since 2017? Would he have released the abomination that was iOS 7 in 2013? No idea. But it's been getting worse for over a decade now. I'm not a Jobs fanboi, I think he should have stayed fired. And I'll point out he made the bad decision to hire Tim Cook and position him to run the company. But at least he wasn't Tim Cook.

It's funny, I know a guy who interviewed for Cook's first job at Apple. He turned it down because Jobs put his dirty disgusting stinky bare feet on the desk during the interview, in the guy's face. I really wish he'd taken the job, because at least he has actual good taste.


Wow fr?? GTFOOH! That’s. Crazy

I mean to be fair tho what these phones are doin is light years beyond iPhone 5 breh lol

A camera bump for betta cooling/batter/cams etc. it’s fine, chill.

I don't mind the switch back to aluminum if it means the phones will be more lightweight.

Breh, aluminum is a no go : (

Heavily poisonous etc : (

Keeping this 16 pm for a hot minute! Such a glorious device

Stainless steel was the one thing about my 13 pro that I hated the most. I hated the shiny finish and I hated the weight. I do care about phone weight...the lighter, the better.
I’ve
..and my next phone won't be a pro unless the weight goes down.

14 pro max steel was a damn house lol

15 pm was where it’s at in terms of weight as it was even lighter than 16 pm it just had terrible cooling. Glad I missed 15 for 16.

Aluminium has always been a superior material for a phone. Steel and titanium were not features, were just marketing made with the intention of upselling iPhone pro making people believe they were more premium materials. But the truth is that aluminium conducts heat better than either of them and is more lightweight, so the phone is lighter and stays cooler.

That’s cool and all (pun intended) but aluminum is a known poison, no?? Glad I’m on 16 pm with no intentions to upgrade..

I’m upgrading my 12 Pro Max this year. 5 years is long enough. My kid will get it as a handmedown though as it still has a lot of life left in it.

Battery %??

I’m jw, peace.
 
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Yea na, sticking with the 14 pro max. 14 pro’s are still a winner. Excellent phones for small business, tough stainless body and with a new battery a pro max lasts sometimes up to a couple of days.
 
Did they hire someone legally blind as a designer due to "no discrimination" policies? This is the ugliest design possible. Everyone's complaining about camera bump? Apple is here to make the bump bigger, more visible, and thicker. I don't know what's wrong with them lately.
 
One more thing, remember last year we gave the iPhone 16 8gb ram for A.I., that was a "trick" that is not enough, so for the iPhone 17 we will give it 12 GB Ram.
12 GB ram for your Memojis and improved Apple Intelligence's "Writing Tools" that Grammarly had in 2014. Oh, and for the new Siri animation, "the biggest leap jump we made to Siri in 10 years"
 
I'm pretty set on upgrading my iPhone 13 Pro Max regardless.

I'm just hoping SOMEHOW this camera island (continent?) looks better in reality than the renders. I've come around to other visor designs (Nexus 6p anyone?) so I am prepared to keep an open mind. But I still think chances are high this is going to look far uglier than past iPhones.

With a case on it will probably be fine and as long as functionally the iPhone 17 Pro Max does what it is supposed to do, how it looks without a case isn't going to stop me from buying it.

A switch to aluminum sounds like a win to me. We might get a lighter phone (or at least not a heavier phone despite increased thickness and that massive camera mass). And aluminum means the potential for more/better colors. Black, white, blue (apparently) and PLEASE Apple just one other color that isn't some shade in-between white and black. It can literally be ANY other color.
 
12 GB ram for your Memojis and improved Apple Intelligence's "Writing Tools" that Grammarly had in 2014. Oh, and for the new Siri animation, "the biggest leap jump we made to Siri in 10 years"
all that was promised last year when the iphone 16 was released. So the issue is the iphone 16 was released without enough ram.
 
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