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This will likely be my next phone... still carrying a 12pro. Only reason I change phones is because of the camera/ lenses.
I was hoping to hold out for the 48mp 5x zoom, but couldn't wait another year (or two?) so got the 16 pro. Coming from the 11 pro, the ultrawide didn't look that much better, but this should set you up for years to come as I can't imagine too much innovation in such smaller cameras. Even just USB C was worth the upgrade.
 
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Render of an iPhone 17 Pro model shared by Jon Prosser


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So they make the phone lighter on the 15 Pro with titanium so they can add some weight back in on the 16 Pro.
Now they make the phone thicker with the 17 Pro so they can sell more 17 Airs.
Next year it will fold in half but weigh twice as much.
Then the year after that they just rerelease the 15 with a faster chip and we start the cycle over again.
 
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I want fingerprint back!!! otherwise I will not upgrade my 14promax. When is underglass fingerprint coming?
 
Been on iPhone since day one, but I’m thinking of trying a galaxy or pixel phone next to see how it compares since there’s nothing remarkably new going on with iPhones these days. If Apple is copying Pixel then I’ll take that as the nod to try Pixel rather than a Galaxy.
still how do you leave this ecosystem when you have shared imessage groups, ipads, macs, apple tv.. I'll stay. and the software is just better. Especially the store.
 
I’m willing to wait and see what the 17 Air is like after it hits the market - in terms of both final specifications/performance and how it feels in hand. But I will say that I’m glad I picked up a 16 Plus before that model disappears. If I have to wait a few years before upgrading again, I’m fine with that.

EDIT: I meant 17 Air in the first line. Corrected now.
 
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hey I’ve got a theory about the new camera plateau

Like, what's it for, exactly? Apple doesn't waste space inside iPhones. And just because there's a camera on the side of, that doesn't mean the whole thing is for camera. What else is rumored for iPhone 16 Pro?

The vapor cooling chamber thing sounds like a pretty good candidate! There's no way that doesn't take at least a moderate amount of space.

The “iPhone Air” will also feature a camera plateau, and getting that thing working at all will probably also require enhanced cooling, thus.

 
There's no benefits to reposition the camera lens positions. They're just doing it every time so that people cannot reuse previous cases and forced to buy new ones.
 
If the 17 Pro Max has this new bar and will be thicker to accommodate more battery it should also have a larger flashlight. Let there be light.
 
What do we think of the chances that they're establishing an early design precedent for a flip phone with an external display (ie., Samsung flip)?
 
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They could achieve thinness in the mid and bottom part, while move some components to the top, thicker part.

That's my guess.
 
I keep look at the CNC roughs. Those cut outs being that deep don’t make sense unless it’s just something im not seeing or they are just that roughed out or the angle. Either way I’m getting this phone. Me need upgrade.
I thought the same thing. I believe this is the first rough pass to set the most protrusive element (lens cylinder) and subsequent passes would cut down other elements to the desired depths.
 
I’m willing to wait and see what the 17 Plus is like after it hits the market - in terms of both final specifications/performance and how it feels in hand. …
There won’t be an iPhone 17 Plus. It is being supplanted by the new iPhone 17 air.
 
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The biggest advantage for this new iPhone 17 Pro and iPhone 17 Pro Max is that it looks so different. It doesn’t matter that it’s as ugly as sin. People will be able to tell that you have a new iPhone 17 from across the room. No more confusing it with an iPhone 13 Pro, iPhone 14 Pro, iPhone 15 Pro, iPhone 16 Pro, etc.

I don’t care at all, but I realize that there is a significant market segment that only cares about showing off that have the latest and greatest Apple iPhone product.
 
I'm shocked the move away from Titanium so quickly. It's not like Apple all the sudden realized Titanium wasn't environmentally friendly. Per camera module, if they aren't changing the layout of the camera module, why do a giant raised area on the back? I guess we will see in September. If the new rumored Air gets ProMotion and AoD, I think I'd be tempted to go that route.
 
Such a waste if the move to aluminum is all for the purpose of reverse charging, a gimmick feature almost no one will use. If I'm paying a premium price for the phone, I prefer premium materials and glass so the phone has some heft to it.
 
With Apple's wishy washy AI statements this year, perhaps we should all wait until the 17 or 18 or 19 series iPhones. After all of the apparently less than truthful adds for the 16 series and computer hardware, how will the customer ever know if the latest and greatest actually lives up to the claimed specs? Perhaps we potential purchasers should wait until the next WWDC to see if last year's hype has been actually implemented and is actually working as advertised.

Not really impressed by many of the reviewers who parrot Apple's press releases as if they had actually done any real testing in person.

As one gets older, it seems the nose gets more sensitive to the smells of the barn yard being uttered by vendors..
 
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Yes, please use more aluminum instead of glass. This will make the device lighter.
Actually if it’s the same volume, it could be the same or even heavier as aluminum instead of glass. Aluminum is approximately 2.7 g/cm³ vs typical glass ranging from 2.4 to 2.8 g/cm³.
 
The extra space would be awesome for a small screen that you can use to film yourself with the back camera.

It would be great for content creators.
 
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