LOL. It's the reverse. The 8 Elite Gen 5 can't hold a candle to the A19 Pro. Never has [Never will]
As far as camera, that's subjective.
In 2025 Single Core is important but not as important as it was 5 years ago. Even on smartphones.Yeah, no. Maybe in cherry-picked scenarios.
I use my iPhone for video and it absolutely crushed anything by Samsung or Google. 4K ProRes Log destroys 8K gimmick on Samsung and Pixels can’t even record high frame rate HDR because their processors are too slow.
Snapdragon is pathetic. Has 8 performance cores and barely beat the A18 Pro while still behind on single core (the most important).
Tong's was good and very fair, I think. If someone only has time for one, that's the one I'd recommend.Watch Brian Tong and the CNET video. This two are actually legitimate reviewers.
It’s really too bad that Anandtech is no more. They did, by far, the most in-depth technical analysis of new phones & processors.
Now we get YouTube style reviews and people running Geekbench complaint a few games instead.
Exactly! I much prefer reviews from Dave2D or from the regular person who talks about what he got and why and gives his own opinion rather than those plastic reviews.Ugh the thumbnails. I’ll wait for genuine reviews. I’m sure these are great devices but these aren’t actually “reviews.”
do NOT get me started! every weekend using the phone outside is like were back in 1984 using a texas instrument device lolI just want someone to tell me the screen doesn’t dim anymore if using the phone outside in direct sunlight.
No, just common sense.do you get paid for promoting the pro over the air? 😂
Chat is this true? 48 megapixel and 8x optical zoom?
Ugh the thumbnails. I’ll wait for genuine reviews. I’m sure these are great devices but these aren’t actually “reviews.”
MKBHD's is just a first look. He doesn't rush to review a phone in four days like most of those other clickbait type reviewers. He said he'll do three proper separate review videos, probably starting with the iPhone Air since that's the one most of his followers seem to be interested in.Ugh the thumbnails. I’ll wait for genuine reviews. I’m sure these are great devices but these aren’t actually “reviews.”
48 megapixels at 4x, 12 megapixels at 8x.
Just like the main camera can do 48mp at 1x and 12mp at 2x.
By "optical" Apple means that you are getting 1:1 pixels on the 8x zoom images, from the center 12mp of the 48mp sensor. The image isn't being scaled aka digital zoom, just cropped and then processed by Apple's image pipeline.
really goes to show you that the masses don't care about quality and in depth analysis. meanwhile those superficial reviewers are flourishingIt’s really too bad that Anandtech is no more. They did, by far, the most in-depth technical analysis of new phones & processors.
Now we get YouTube style reviews and people running Geekbench complaint a few games instead.
I honestly think the 17 is by far the best bang for your buck for all the new phones.
The air has a binned version of A19 pro so it's NOT the same chip (it has one less GPU). Also due to thermal throttling even if it was the same (and it isn't), it wouldn't be as performant as the 17 Pro
Even less of a reason for it to cost more than the standard iPhone 17.Yes it does, but it's a binned chip.
Sure, but judging from some comments on MacRumors for the past few weeks, a fair number of people are weighing that choice.Cross-shopping the Pro and Air doesn't make any more sense to me than cross-shopping a full-size truck and a sport coupe.
Well, every CPU/GPU chip is binned. The best chips go into the best-chips bin.Yes it does, but it's a binned chip.
One of the main reasons the Air had to have only a single camera (at least for this first model, and probably for at least the next year or two) is to allow the battery to extend further up inside the housing, to make up for it being thinner. To achieve this, Apple had to move nearly all the circuit boards from the body of the housing, to just under the camera bump, and even then, the A19 chip is inside the camera bump. Making room for two or even just one more camera, by increasing the size of the bump, would have pushed the A19 chip and the other circuit boards downward, so that the battery wouldn't have been as tall, and thus there would have been less battery runtime.The main issue is the lack of ultra wide and telephoto zoom cameras, this is such a miss on the iPhone air. They should just made the bump bigger like on the pro and included those cameras. I use them very frequently especially the 0.5 zoom to capture more real estate.
Since the "8x optical zoom" is really a sensor crop, it seems to be a redefinition of the term "optical" to mean "quality close to what you'd get if it were truly optical". Not sure Apple should have gone with that stretching of the terminology. I'm not sure how this sensor crop down to 12MP is as good as or entirely comparable to a true optical 8x, non-cropped 48MP image.48 megapixels at 4x, 12 megapixels at 8x.
Just like the main camera can do 48mp at 1x and 12mp at 2x.
By "optical" Apple means that you are getting 1:1 pixels on the 8x zoom images, from the center 12mp of the 48mp sensor. The image isn't being scaled aka digital zoom, just cropped and then processed by Apple's image pipeline.
What has changed in the keyboard? I also have the 14PM, but not seen the difference in the ios26.Great to hear it is a pretty good improvement. Thanks to iOS 26 breathing new life into my 14 Pro Max and the keyboard not sucking anymore, a LOT less typos on it now, then I think I shall grab me a refurb Orange or Blue Pro Max 17 next year. I was thinking of the folding iPhone, bad the sad reality is I know it'll cost 2 grand easy, and I have tried to set myself a limit of a grand for a phone... hence I buy refurb ones now.