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iPhone 17 Pro Said to Feature 12GB of RAM, 48-Megapixel Telephoto Camera, and More

Whenever they increase the RAM it’s the year to upgrade, however that design just looks ugly…
 
I realize these are renders and not necessarily how the iPhone will actually look but in terms of design I don't get it. Why extend the camera bump unnecessarily unless Apple needs the extra space to add something useful. Also, I expect more drab colors such as "pea green" or "rusted bolt".
 
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I upgrade every year to a Pro Max, but making it thicker and likely heavier is a disappointment. I would purchase the Air, but I need two cameras for spatial video.
 
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Unggoy Murderer said:
I think you're maybe speaking for yourself or a very small minority of people. The camera is an important feature to a huge number of people out there.

When people are wanting a phone recommendation, the first question I ask is "iOS or Android", then the next one is "how important is the camera?". A lot of people absolutely do factor the camera into their purchase decision.
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"a huge number of people out there." are way past what they would ever know as better. They may think it's important, but it already works beyond what they care about.
 
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I think they should use this to reduce the telephoto to 3x again instead of 5x. If you make a photo at 4x with 48 MP at 1x, you get only 3 MP resolution, at 4.5x even less, that is not enough. With a 3x 48MP tele you still get 12MP at 6x.
 
roland.g said:
That's great. But you've missed the point entirely. They push the camera improvements in the phone release each year because there aren't seemingly enough other areas for innovation. Mostly because of Cook's lack of vision and their poor software development team. When they tout how great the camera improvements are, the minimally iterative improvements are meant to distract you from the fact that from the 13 to the 14 to 15 to the 16, you are essentially buying the same device. The 17 is likely going to follow suit.
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Another bad take. Smarphones are a mature product category. Users do not want superfluous nonsense. User do not want "change" or "additions" merely for change's sake. And we most certainly don't want to pay for dubious "upgrades." Arguably, the "camera control" button on the iPhone 16 is one of these "innovations" that nobody wants or likes, given how many people turn the damn thing off.

You complain about "minimally iterative improvements." Well, smart users know and appreciate these iterative improvements. These year-over-year improvements are exactly what we want. Apple is improving its silicon, base RAM, cameras, and now a brand new chip/radio, the C1. This means each year, iPhone buyers can acquire a rock-solid smartphone, arguably the best in the world, and rely on it day-in, day-out, never powering it off, for many years into the future. We got Apple Passwords, a great addition and it has been rock-solid. These are innovations many users appreciate and use every single day.

So, spare us the complaints about Mr. Cook's "lack of vision" and "poor" software development. These are the same executives and teams that ushered in Apple Silicon, which is absolutely destroying the competition. The same teams delivering the C1, and finally some competition to Qualcomm. And even with some problems and issues, the OSX/iOS environment is orders of magnitude better than Win11 and the significant firmware and hardware problems in the Intel/Nvidia/AMD environment, in particular the motherboard manufacturers.
 
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So camera improvement AND RAM increase in one go!

whoever took that idea to board room should be sued as they are clearly trying to give Tim a heart attack.

What is next? Base storage increase? Don't be ridiculous /s
 
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adrianlondon said:
I'd prefer lower resolution but better light capture (lower f-stop) so that less (Apple over-) processing is needed.

But it seems almost everyone just likes numbers to get bigger, so more pixels it is.
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For 12 MP output, a pixel-binned 48 MP sensor and a 12 MP sensor of the same area should have roughly similar base image quality, but the 48 MP sensor will have other advantages.

Overall, moving to the 48 MP sensor is a plus. It is also possible they could increase the sensor size at the same time as well, but I don’t know what the rumour mill says about that.
 
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EugW said:
For 12 MP output, a pixel-binned 48 MP sensor and a 12 MP sensor of the same area should have roughly similar base image quality, but the 48 MP sensor will have other advantages.

Overall, moving to the 48 MP sensor is a plus. It is also possible they could increase the sensor size at the same time as well, but I don’t know what the rumour mill says about that.
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heard the sensor of the 5x will indeed be bigger. don't have the exact dimensions handy though.
 
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r_123 said:
2x optical zoom for the 1x would be great... wondering what they hide in that huge camera bump...
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or 3-5x optical@48mp for the tele... that'd be too good to be true... unfortunately.

i'm pretty sure, i'll be missing the 3x of my 14 pro once i get the 17 pro. 5x is nice, but not always the focal length i want.
 
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This iPhone is so hideous, i’m actually looking at pocketable mirrorless cameras rn. Buying my 14Pro was a stretch with these massive lenses in the back - which are great btw. I’d rather just keep this iPhone with no apple intelligence and carry around a nice camera. ChatGPT and Claude work great and i really don’t need an onboard AI.
 
roland.g said:
Make a better phone. We don't really care about the camera as much as they think. Because it seems that is all they ever really improve.
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I’m guessing they know what users want better than us here.

Also, better how, exactly?
 
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"a huge number of people out there." are way past what they would ever know as better. They may think it's important, but it already works beyond what they care about.
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Spot on. I doubt the vast majority of iPhone owners even bother to look at photos they take with their phones on something other than their phones or tablets. Fewer still might see them on their computer. Fewer than that will print the photos. Fewer still might use the phone as part of a serious photography workflow. A 48MP photo viewed on an iPad might as well be 12MP for the vast majority of users.
 
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