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I'm pretty much sold on "downgrading" to an iPhone 17 Air from the 16 Pro Max. I did use all 3 cameras recently on vacation, but rarely ever do in day to day. I think I can live without them if it means having something smaller to hold in the hand.
 
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I suspect the space maybe used internally, for either a vapour chamber or a screen
By “screen” do you mean a display on the camera bump?

Presumably, a tally light LED could be used to display other information as well…
 
Vision Pro records on 2200 x 2200, perhaps we are going to have square videos (I hope better resolution) with portrait/landscape view depending on the device, similar to what happens when viewing photos/videos from memories on vertical/horizontal. Giving also room for content creator to manually choose their favorite.

Square video also would solve the problem for spatial videos while holding the phone vertically.

I hope they fix the Camera Control button position though.
 
I agree. As it appears now, its form over function. I don’t see any reason to elongate it other than for change sake. Maybe there is more to the design that will be revealed. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
It is interesting that you see it that way. Because I see it exactly the opposite. I have always felt that a camera bump across the whole top of the phone would be the most functional way to lay out the lenses. Except that I am totally ignorant as to how lenses interact with the interior of the phone.
 
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Again, the flash placement makes NO SENSE. If this turns out to be totally wrong I won’t be surprised.
The only reason I see why Apple would make the bump bigger is because under display Face ID/front camera.
Why do you say "the flash placement makes NO SENSE" ? You do know that increasing flash distance from the lens is critical for reducing redeye and making flash people pix look better, right? Which is why wedding and PJ photogs often have the strobe unit on an arm, a foot away from the lens.
 
I'm pretty much sold on "downgrading" to an iPhone 17 Air from the 16 Pro Max. I did use all 3 cameras recently on vacation, but rarely ever do in day to day. I think I can live without them if it means having something smaller to hold in the hand.
If you wanted "something smaller to hold in the hand" you could have gotten a Pro instead of a Pro Max.
 
If you wanted "something smaller to hold in the hand" you could have gotten a Pro instead of a Pro Max.
Somewhat true, but still not really. The Pro models are chonk. The 17 Air will be dramatically thinner and lighter, which makes a lot of difference to what it feels like to hold in the hand.

None of them are products designed to be held at all, but that's another conversation.
 
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Why do you say "the flash placement makes NO SENSE" ? You do know that increasing flash distance from the lens is critical for reducing redeye and making flash people pix look better, right? Which is why wedding and PJ photogs often have the strobe unit on an arm, a foot away from the lens.
So you always want your pictures to look like they were took at a wedding? Red eyes can be fixed with software nowadays, stronger shadows on one side and always that one side can’t.
 
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I suspect the extended bump allows for additonal camera capabilities.

I’m not sure the flash will actually be all the way on the other side; it makes more sense to have it closer to the cameras, given that Apple has historically placed it as close as possible to the cameras.

Perhaps the additional back space will allow for another spatial camera on the back, but more importantly:

The additional internal space may allow quality parity for the facetime camera (as others have noted).
 
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If the goal is to appeal to content creators and there will now be a glass panel on the back, wouldn't it make sense that this back glass panel is actually a screen for recording yourself using the best camera on the phone?

Por qúe no los dos? I suppose it’s possible for them to add a back screen, but to me it doesn’t seem like a good fit. Is it costlier in terms of component cost and battery life to upgrade a camera which is already used a lot, or to add another smaller display for a function that will not be used nearly as much? Will that display always turn on during a photo, or only when any face is detected, or will I have to turn it on manually with a special “tiktok” mode? Will the main display turn off while the back display is in use? Which display is better for selfy-sticks or tripods? Will controls be visible on the mini-display? Will they use sapphire for that entire area to protect it from normal use?
 
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I have been impressed with the Samsung automatic slow motion video.

It would be nice if Apple could bring that to the iPhone as well.
 
I really hope this doesn't mean recording spatial videos or any other type of fancy videos for the disgraced Vision Pro.

They need a better, lighter, and cheaper Vision Pro 2 if that product line is to be saved at all.
 
Before they even think about any of this they need to do something about the ‘floating lights’ lens flare that’s been in their cameras for years…. And is far, FAR more prominent in iPhones than any other manufacturer.
 
Mostly useless features for most folks as most the time we will be watching that content in tiny screens.
Apple really is loosing the ball in the innovation department. No foldable iPhone this year?, no on screen finger print reader?, no way to edit a mistyped number?, the worst notch in the WHOLE industry?, thick and easily overheated devices, super mediocre battery duration in day to day activities.
Just for “big improvements” in battery diarios I would happily pay the “upgrade”, as it stands, it is not and upgrade.
 
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Good strategy as that's the lucrative and growing market. Most creators start with an iPhone and move onto something else when/if they start making money. Right now I'd say the standard to meet is the DJI Pocket 3. One reason it will be hard to compete with that one is due to the ability of the camera to reverse direction and give the same quality for filming yourself as filming in front of you.
 
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On the other hand, those videos would have massive file sizes, so I'm sure they're tempted. Maybe this is overly cynical, but sometimes I wonder whether a lot of the push toward increasing image quality is to drive up the file sizes and get people to pay for larger onboard storage and/or iCloud quota
Conspiracy theory:
In Camera preset settings you can turn on that Live Photo is auto turned on OR that it remembers whatever you last had on.
You can NOT turn on to have Live Photos auto turn off.
And I believe that’s for the same reason you mentioned.
 
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Good strategy as that's the lucrative and growing market. Most creators start with an iPhone and move onto something else when/if they start making money. Right now I'd say the standard to meet is the DJI Pocket 3. One reason it will be hard to compete with that one is due to the ability of the camera to reverse direction and give the same quality for filming yourself as filming in front of you.
Yeah bet ya that recording front and back at once in the native app will be unlocked with a future iPhone, some new format only new iPhones can every possibly support, of course.
A stream for you library or something. Personally I’d be happy to just sometimes be able to switch cameras mid video but we aren’t Pro enough yet it seems.
 
I'm pretty much sold on "downgrading" to an iPhone 17 Air from the 16 Pro Max. I did use all 3 cameras recently on vacation, but rarely ever do in day to day. I think I can live without them if it means having something smaller to hold in the hand.
Lots of comments on MacRumors by people who have said something similar, that they don't need a phone that's a simulated DSLR with multiple cameras but instead just a half-decent, single-lens camera, if it meant that at least part of the iPhone would be smaller, even if it's just to reduce the weight and/or thickness.
 
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