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Price increase is expected but concern, on a scale of 1 to 10 (highest), about a 2. The real concern, and not addressed, is the impact it has on the carriers “deals.” While each of the major carriers in the US offer some form of a “free” phone which they benefit from as it prevents people from jumping to a different carrier for the term without paying off the phone. Frankly, my iPhone 15 Pro cost me $0 with 3 or 4 months left on the 2 year obligation, where would then be able to repeat with a “free” 17 Pro. Technically it is not free as do have to pay the sales tax, but rack months bill shows the normal 0% finance charge with the offsetting credit to cover, plus notes the remaining balance. The plan cost is immaterial as would have anyway for the other features.
nothing is free, that cost is baked into your plan
 
Only "technically" the Pro gets $50 "cheaper", because storage prices are meanwhile way, way cheaper than they were f. e. year(s) ago! [edit] ...and even then storage was way cheaper than Apple asked us for!
its only cheaper if you intended to pay for additional storage anyways, more expensive otherwise.
 
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Haha. Exactly. The fact that I didn't think "Oh, my Fold 7 cost me $2,000" says a lot. It just seems normal now since I've had quite a few foldables over the years.
Right!? It is the iPhone folk who are the peasants now. My how the tables have turned. I'm only kidding folks, I don't think people with iPhones are peasants. :)
 
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You are absolutely right! 🤮

...but at least it is so distinctive, everyone will immediately recognize it's "The newest iPhone!"
That's unfortunately - enough/the main point - for a lot of people... :(
Who actually cares about that though these days apart from the person who owns it? I can't remember the last time someone asked me if I had the latest iPhone tbh, and I don't think people generally care unless its in a college setting maybe amongst younger people.
 
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It's useless to convert the currency for the European market because Apple always asks much more than the converted rate in the EU.
They’re restructuring their profits. And, either people will continue to buy iPhones in the region making Apple MORE profit, OR they will be turned off by the price, buy less and, eventually Apple will fall from Gatekeeper status. And, the next day, they disable the App Store changes.

Win win
 
I have a iPhone 14 Pro. Should I upgrade to the 17 Pro or wait another year for the 18 Pro? Not sure how I feel about the Air phone, I think I need to hold one first before I were to even consider it.
 
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Honest question: Why does one need 2TB? Are you shooting long high res videos? Lots of slow-mo videos? If so, isn't it very risky to have the video on the phone without backup?
I do have backup - multiple backups, actually, but backup is backup, not something you regularly access. I have pretty much everything on the phone as well
 
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Still rockin the iPhone 13. Fast, OLED, good camera, light and has 5g. I got no reason to upgrade.
I had the 13 mini. When I needed a new battery, it wasn’t much more to upgrade to an iPhone 16 than it was to buy a new battery. Not sure how T-Mobile justifies large phone subsidies based on my $25 a month plan.
 
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nothing is free, that cost is baked into your plan
Not really, been with T-Mobile for years mainly because they provided overseas coverage when visited family that blew Verizon, ATT and others out the water. Plan cost essentially has been constant and didn’t change when they added the feature. Prior, like with my iPhone 12, the monthly no interest finance charge was added to the plan cost. Now, they still add the charge, but also add an offsetting credit that nets it to zero.
 
The $100 is for clothing and school supplies. computers are $750, $1000, $1500 depending on the state.
You left out most states don’t participate in that and many of those are well under $1500. It happens, but it’s rare and has many rules.
 
Vegas does have sales tax, 8.375% and maybe even higher in certain areas "Resort Corridor". However, some states like Oregon have zero sales tax.
Again, it’s all tax. Oregon has its own income tax too, so you pay anyway, sometimes more than a sales tax.

Would you rather pay a 6.5% tax on things you actually buy or a 9% tax on your entire income?
 
The two original iPhone storage sizes cost $499 and $599.

By “decked-out” you mean 8 GB of storage with a 3.5” display. The LLM estimates the chip speed of iPhone 17 Pro to be 500x faster than the original iPhone, with 256 GB starting storage, 64x the base iPhone at the time, with a 6.3” display, 3.2x larger area.

Apple sells cheaper iPhones that are still much more capable than original iPhone in every way. The point, iPhones today are so much more than we had, and even though in general component costs have dropped in those 22 years, because the phones are much more the cost of components to build these modern phones is twice as much.

Tidbit: iPhone 17 Pro is estimated to be 7x faster than a fully loaded Mac Pro from 2007.
So by your performance/$ metrics the OG iPhone should have cost roughly $10-20.

Desktop computers are also much faster today than, say, 40 years ago, but also MUCH cheaper… the original Mac 128k sold for $2495 (or $7700 inflation adjusted). So what is the iPhone’s excuse for being way more expensive today even adjusted for a measly 15 years of inflation?

A decked-out iPhone 17 shouldn’t cost 2-3 times more than a decked-out OG iPhone just because it’s way faster. That’s not how it works with tech.
 
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Complaints about the appearance of the design of a rumored phone, as depicted in renderings and mockups that don't come from Apple, are just hilarious. No one here knows what the appearance will be, nor do the people making those renderings and mockups. But man, do people in the forums love to reflexively complain. And MR loves the engagement.
 
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Why would Apple charge $550 more in Europe? Its usually dollar to Euro/Pound equivilent but tariffs shouldn't apply here.
That’s an interesting question I don’t have an answer to😃 but current 16 Pro is 1440$ (1229€). You are totally right it should be $=€ situation, because that’s what it used to be back in the days, as well as that price hike happened somewhere in 2023 according to ChatGPT, with the iPhone 15 series that started to cost much more than before. And iPhone turned out so “luxury” that other brands like Google and Samsung started to sell their phones for much cheaper instead.

I first thought “hmm gotta be taxes or something”, turns out NOPE it was Apple who raised the prices significantly. And all of that for a phone that is “Designed by Apple in California, assembled in China” (or well… now in India too🤷‍♂️)
 
Over $1000 for a iPhone now? I said a several months ago that most people have not 'felt' the tariffs but once they want a shinny new phone, that is when people will notice. I look forward to reading all of the complaints on this forum in September 2025 and heading into the holiday season. The phone companies will do there best to hide and spread out payments to sell these devices. My 14 Pro, with a new battery, should be good for another year or more! Thoughts?
 
Actually the prices in Europe (at least in France) will stay stable (someone working at Apple told me), precisely because they’re already much higher in Europe than in US and because of the exchange rates

In Germany "everyone" is making fun of you if you tell them you own anything from Apple. It's already considered super-luxury since many years and people are called stupid for paying that much.

They just can't raise the prices if they still want to have customers in the EU, there are many countries with much lower wages here and the price is everywhere the same I think, only the VAT makes a small difference for example €949 for the base 16 in Germany and France and €952.60 in Austria.

I don't think Apple will go over the 999 mark either in $ or in €. Doesn't make much sense to lose customers for a little more profit.
 
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