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I wonder if the camera bump of the two/three camera thing as intended annoying design was a part of trying to get peoples jeans to wear kind of how swedish guys snus pocket often shows wear and tear after the very typical circular box. It's kind of a style thing and Ive heard that Americans arecurious about how to acquire that kind of patina.

But I guess the iPhones failed to actually make a big impression that way. But the fact there seems to be even more of theses annoying protruding things on the back makes me a bit annoyed.. I rather have a flat device than an uneven one like for the last few years. I dont really care if it means it gets thicker, I would still prefer it. Otherwise it could have a slate design or something but all these hard to clean and annoyingly complicated things, come on.

I miss Ive, even though he over engineered a lot, Apple still does, but seemingly for no real good reason anymore.
 
Wait, unless Apple are going to be using transparent aluminium, there's going to be an 'interface' of some sort between aluminium and glass…

Surely that's gonna become the crumb & lint zone?
Apple already uses "transparent aluminum" by including at least a thin sheet of sapphire on the camera lens covers.
 
It's not even functional in the sense that a lot of charging pads won't work with it now. Certainly not any of the charging pads you'd find in any modern car. Both my cars have Qi charging pads and it's nearly impossible to get my iphone to charge on them because of the camera bump, which is less pronounced than what's coming on the iphone 17.
I’ve run into that with a lot of tabletop chargers. The camera bump is just too big/close to the wireless charging area. There really needs to be something in the Qi specification about clearance around the charging area to ensure functionality.
My only worry is whether my MagSafe wallets will fit on it. I have three Moft ones that I do not want to have to stop using; as long as the new design doesn’t screw that up I’m happy.
I don’t think it will be any taller, so I would assume they would still work the same.
 
Aluminum is a cost cutter. It's a better conductor to dissipate heat but the titanium is much stronger and offers far better drop protection. Signal attenuation should not be a factor. I suppose it is possible that the higher rate of wireless charging creates more heat and benefits from the conductivity of the aluminum. Still, probably a cost thing.

After adding a case, which 99.9% of iPhone users have, the camera bump won't be a factor. I think it's a nice place for Apple to stuff components so they can fit the phone with a larger battery. Also, improved wireless charging means a larger coil.
 
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“Team, for the aesthetic design of the iPhone 17, we’re issuing everyone an Etch A Sketch…we want this phone to lack continuity of design, clean lines….you know, we’re throwing away all of the principles of Steve and John”
 
Can’t wait for the endless posts about how 'the gap between the glass and the aluminum on my new iPhone is too big/uneven."
And “I’m leaving the apple ecosystem and selling all my gear because of this horrendous gap”
 
It’s for a larger periscope lens which extends out from the right lens
One rumor that was published about a month ago is that the periscope lens will include moveable elements to allow for actual optical zooming capabilities, which would also add to the thickness of the periscope.
 
One rumor that was published about a month ago is that the periscope lens will include moveable elements to allow for actual optical zooming capabilities, which would also add to the thickness of the periscope.

Sounds interesting. I do think there's more to this extended camera bump and a bit like when the dynamic island made sense of the camera cut outs when that was unveiled we'll see a similar penny drop moment here.
 
Sorry I had to read the article 3 times and still not understand what was the mystery and what was solved? We always knew the lower flat back area was for wireless charging. Can someone help my poor brain understand?
 
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It is also not clear why Apple is apparently returning to an aluminum frame for the iPhone 17 Pro models.
Thermal issues probably. Aluminum conducts heat a lot better than stainless steel.
  • Aluminum – 237 W/m•K
  • Stainless Steel – 10-30 W/m•K
  • Titanium & alloys – 5-22 W/m•K
Copper and Silver are both almost twice as thermally conductive as aluminum, but expensive and not as durable. Where's my diamond iPhone frame? (~2000 W/m•K)
 
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