And that someone is right every year, as Apple manages to make every yearly release even more boring than the previous one, and that’s a feat as one would think new iPhones couldn’t be more boring still. But Apple somehow manages.
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iPhone 17 Series Is Less Than Two Months Away: Everything We Know
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I wish I could tell the difference between photos from my 16 Pro and my Nikon DSLR
The best camera is the one you have always with you. Some time ago one could say this was an iPhone. Lately that’s not the case any longer as other companies put way better cameras in their phones.
Just got my first car that has built-in CarPlay, so it's time to upgrade from an iPhone 13 Pro to the iPhone 17. I'll likely go with the lower-end (read: cheaper) model.
Just a note: Wireless CarPlay works great with my iPhone 12 Pro Max with iOS 26 dev beta 3, on my 2025 Toyota Camry.
Rumour has the new tele at 3.5X. However, because it is supposed to be 48 MP, that would mean there would be two "optical" resolutions, at 3.5X and 7X. If it is actually 5X, then it would be 5X and 10X.
Really? Have you polled them and found that they are blown away by them? Thought not.
Lol of course! And I’ll be underwhelmed just like I’ve been since the X. That was their last meaningful release.
TLDR anyways if you wanna know what’s coming to the 17 pro :
Apple is expected to hold its annual iPhone announcement event during the week of September 8, 2025, with September 9 or 10 emerging as the most likely dates. Like the iPhone 16 series, this year's lineup is expected to include four models – but with a twist. The Plus device is being replaced with an all-new ultra-thin model, while the iPhone 17 Pro and iPhone 17 Pro Max are set to feature new rear camera designs.
To bring you up to speed, we've summarized below the biggest iPhone 17 rumors we've covered so far here on MacRumors. For more details, follow the links, or dive into our dedicated device roundups using the tags at the bottom of this article.
1. All-New iPhone 17 Air
Apple is preparing to shake up the iPhone lineup with an ultra-thin model currently referred to as the iPhone 17 Air. While that name isn't official, what is clear from multiple reports is that it is expected to measure just 5.5mm thick (not including the camera bump), making it the thinnest iPhone Apple has ever made. The device will replace the iPhone 17 Plus in this year's lineup altogether. Apple is positioning this model around its design – sleek, minimal, and unlike anything else in the range. It won't match the iPhone 17 Pro models in horsepower or cutting-edge features, but its standout look could make it the most talked-about iPhone of 2025.
2. Display Size Changes
Apple's iPhone 17 lineup will include four iPhones, and two of those are going to have all-new display sizes. The iPhone 17 will feature a larger 6.27-inch display, which will make it the same size as the current iPhone 16 Pro display. The ultra-thin iPhone 17 Air is rumored to have a 6.6-inch display, which means it will be larger than the iPhone 17 but smaller than the iPhone 17 Pro Max.
3. Rear Camera Layout
Viewed from the rear, the standard iPhone 17 will look a lot like the current iPhone 16, with two vertical rear cameras positioned in a pill-shaped camera bump. However, the iPhone 17 Air and iPhone 17 Pro models are rumored to feature a new rectangular camera bar with rounded corners, with the bar spanning the back of the iPhone, Google Pixel-style. Despite the change, the iPhone 17 Pro models are expected to retain a triangular lens arrangement within the bar.
4. Faster Displays
Apple intends to expand ProMotion to all iPhone 17 models, allowing the devices to ramp up to a 120Hz refresh rate for smoother scrolling and video. Previously, only "Pro" models in Apple's iPhone lineup have had the feature. Notably, ProMotion would also enable the display on the iPhone 17 and iPhone 17 "Air" to ramp down to a more power-efficient refresh rate as low as 1Hz, allowing for an always-on display that can show the Lock Screen's clock, widgets, notifications, and wallpaper even when the device is locked.
5. Chassis Material Changes
Since the iPhone X in 2017, all of Apple's highest-end iPhone models have featured either stainless steel or titanium frames. This year, however, the iPhone 17 Pro and iPhone 17 Pro Max will feature aluminum frames, with a glass section on the back of the devices to preserve MagSafe and Qi wireless charging support. The base iPhone 17 is also expected to have aluminum, while the all-new iPhone 17 Air is said to be the sole model to feature a titanium chassis.
6. New Wi-Fi 7 Chip
The iPhone 17 Pro and iPhone 17 Pro Max are said to be equipped with an Apple-designed Wi-Fi 7 chip for the first time. Wi-Fi 7 support would allow the devices to send and receive data over the 2.4GHz, 5GHz, and 6GHz bands simultaneously with a supported router, resulting in faster Wi-Fi speeds, lower latency, and more reliable connectivity.
7. Rear Camera Enhancements
The iPhone 17 Pro models will have a new 48-megapixel Telephoto lens. The upgraded Telephoto will make the premium devices the first iPhones to have a rear camera system composed entirely of 48-megapixel lenses, allowing them to capture even more photographic detail. The new 48MP sensor should also allow for digital cropping to simulate longer focal lengths, offering less quality loss than normal digital zoom. The all-new iPhone 17 Air will have a single-lens 48-megapixel rear camera. We are not aware of any changes to base iPhone 17's dual-lens camera system with a Wide camera and an Ultra Wide camera.
8. Selfie Camera
All iPhone models coming in 2025 are rumored to have an upgraded 24-megapixel front-facing camera, which is an improvement over the 12-megapixel front-facing camera in the iPhone 16 models. The camera will notably improve image quality, and allow for more cropping in without a loss of quality. The camera is also said to have a six-element lens, up from a five-element lens, which should also slightly enhance image quality.
9. Anti-Reflective Display
The iPhone 17 Pro models are expected to feature a new scratch resistant anti-reflective display layer, but the base iPhone 17 and iPhone 17 Air models are expected to miss out. Current iPhone models have a fingerprint-resistant oleophobic coating and a Ceramic Shield, but Apple hasn't focused on anti-reflectivity for the iPhone display like... Click here to read rest of article
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1. New design with smaller Dynamic Island, changes on the back and more
2. The iPhone will be faster of course A19 Pro, 12gb RAM and more
3. Improved camera with 48mp zoom camera (so all the 3 will be 48), 24mp FaceTime cam and new features like maybe 8k and more
That’s it keep it simple and idc about new colors… there are always new colors !
Really? If you are in the process of getting a new car, you’re at the dealer and comparing two, and one of them also has flight ability and cost the same, and when you ask the seller how he could possibly try and sell you the non-flying one his response is:
- Well if you need flight why don’t you also get a private jet?!?
Edit: But it’s good that we agree that the iPhone is only proper for casual photos and videos. If only Apple would say so themselves.
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my paid off 14 pro needs a new battery but it has a tiny chip in the glass in the corner of the screen, so that means the whole screen will need replaced if I have the battery done. By that point, I'm halfway to a new phone anyway and just.....ugh!
Here's hoping the new iphones have some good deals at least.
Here's hoping the new iphones have some good deals at least.
Who said anything about them being "blown away"? That's your characterization, not mine.
Yep... And that's helped Apple become one of the most successful tech companies in the world - and annoying a lot of people on tech forums who love to slam Apple and TC.
There is a huge difference between the Sony A7III and an iPhone 16 Pro, that much I can tell you. But yes, cellphones can take very impressive photos for their sensor size in good lighting, when taking RAW photos. The JPG/HEIC processing is utter garbage when you open them on a large monitor.
But this was never about comparing the iPhones to DSLRs, but to tech that is already available on competitors phones for the same price.
I still pay AC+ on mine, it’s 12€ a month but it’s well worth the peace of mind. This brick flew out of my pocket and cracked a tile but also cracket the back glass and screen, replacement unit was cheap I think it was 30€. Just saying this to have you consider getting the plan for your next phone, you have warranty as long as you pay for it. I plan on keeping my 14 Pro for a long, long time, and the 12€ per month is worth it imo.
Right. So you know that they found the upgrade anything more than minor? Right again, you don't.
Yep... And that's helped Apple become one of the most successful tech companies in the world - and annoying a lot of people on tech forums who love to slam Apple and TC.
You really think it annoys people in MRs that Apple sells a lot of phones? Why would it bother anyone?
You realize its ok to criticize a massive tech company when they've fallen behind other companies right?
Again… I’m just stating how many people buy iPhones everyday. If you want to poll them or speculate as to why, feel free and report back.
You were responding to my post about being underwhelmed so I just assumed you had a point but I guess you didn't.
