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If this indeed sits above the Pro Max, Apple will unexpectedly push the boundaries of thinness once more, which I believe is a good thing as long as they can find ways to maintain structural integrity and battery life. With the recent iPad Pro release, it seems they may move in that direction.

I would have expected an iPhone Ultra to move in the direction of being thicker and more rugged (like the Watch Ultra) than the Pro phone lineup but perhaps Apple will surprise us all….
 
The weirdest and stupidest complaints I hate seeing on the comment section are, why so thin?
The objection isn't to it being thin, it is to the inevitable compromises that come with thinness. If it is thinner, it can't have as much battery or as good a camera. (Yes, advancements elsewhere can partially compensate for this, but thin never helps anything.). "Thin" is often the excuse for losing ports and features we like. And it risks bending the phone. It shows Apple's arrogance for telling, rather than asking what we actually want.
 
The objection isn't to it being thin, it is to the inevitable compromises that come with thinness. If it is thinner, it can't have as much battery or as good a camera. (Yes, advancements elsewhere can partially compensate for this, but thin never helps anything.). "Thin" is often the excuse for losing ports and features we like. And it risks bending the phone. It shows Apple's arrogance for telling, rather than asking what we actually want.
If they can give you all day battery life and still make it thin and light, what’s the problem? No one should be using an iPad more than 10 hours in a day, and if you forget to charge it, that’s not really the fault of Apple and everyone else who would prefer it to be lighter. It’s also bad for the environment for everyone to be carrying around extra battery capacity they don’t need
 
Preachh!! 🙌🏻 The new macbooks are def a step backwards in design, & this is exactly what I say when people complain about Apple dropping support for stuff like 32 bit, switching architectures, etc

Sometimes I wonder if they purposely do major shifts from time to time in order to force devs to update their apps, which keeps things progressing and keeps their UI aesthetic consistent. Don’t want to end up like Windows where there’s always a jumble of different UI’s, it makes me cringe every time I use it
It's been said that a large portion of both Windows and Intel chips are crud that is rarely used but are there to support all the outdated crud. It's a circular punch in the face. My worry, as with the latest MacBook Pro is they listen to the loud minority and they figure, why even try? And we end up with the stagnation of both Windows and Intel and every other company that stagnated and got leapfrogged by catering to current consumers who like conformity and want cars to be compatible with the horse.
 
Not trying to silence anyone, and the opinions go both ways. My opinion is that the whining made the Macbook Pro thicker unnecessarily for those who whined about it. I have no issue with using Thunderbolt or dongles for ports I rarely or ever use instead. I doubt Steve Jobs who mandated getting rid of unnecessary or outdated ports would have succumbed to the whiners. The problem is that if you do not keep moving forward and keep building on the old crud such as with Windows making sure all types of old outdated stuff stay compatible, you end up end up slowing progress. You need to keep moving forward.

So basically you're unironically whining about Macbook PROs having too much port variety while complaining about others expressing their interests with valid reasons behind them (you're definitely in the minority in the ports vs thickness opinions). And to top it off you used the tired Steve Jobs wouldn't have done this line... speaking of being outdated and not moving forward.
 
Well, you don't really have a choice, do you?
Anyone who honestly wanted that area could implement it in software, without the need for a dead area on the screen below it.
If you really care about the highest fidelity screen for your entertainment of choice, and not missing a single pixel of the action, should you really be watching it on a phone at all?

It’s a phone, it’s trying so hard to be everything to everybody, but there will always be some compromises when space is at a premium.

The island is more visually pleasing to look at than the notch was, and Apple cares about that, in addition to the usefulness. If you care more about having edge to edge pixels look at an Android where they don’t have faceID.
 
Why not make them thicker with more battery and no camera bump?
And a hot swappable battery, and a headphone jack, and a home button, and no stupid notch/pill!

I don't care if it's twice or three times as thick as they are now. I don't care if it weighs 5x as much. I'm just sick of the HORRIBLE compromises Apple has made to functionality because of Ive's gross anorexia fetish.
 
iPhone 17 Slim Mini please.
That would have no battery life. Apple's fatal mistake with the 12 Mini was keeping it the same thickness as its other phones that had greater surface area; it should have been a little thicker to offer more volume for a battery. The 13s battery life is fairly decent, but the reputation was already tarnished and Apple had already canceled future plans by the time the 13 mini came out.

I am interested to see if a mini device could succeed in a Pro form factor (sadly probably not), but throwing it in a thinner chassis definitely won't work out.
 
I can’t see it being more expensive than the pro max but made of aluminum. Titanium is as light as aluminum but much stronger, and Apple has made a big play out of marketing it as the most premium material ever in an iPhone.
 
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And a hot swappable battery, and a headphone jack, and a home button, and no stupid notch/pill!

I don't care if it's twice or three times as thick as they are now. I don't care if it weighs 5x as much. I'm just sick of the HORRIBLE compromises Apple has made to functionality because of Ive's gross anorexia fetish.
Won’t argue on that headphone jack. What exactly do we need a home button for though?

Hot swappable batteries were a thing because battery life sucked on everything at the time. Is 10 hours of screen-on time in a day not enough? They make battery banks and battery cases in that case. Most people don’t want a phone that heavy, especially if they’re holding it all day.

Have you tried turning off Background App Refresh?
 
The weirdest and stupidest complaints I hate seeing on the comment section are, why so thin? Who asked for that? Why is the chip so powerful? Who needs more power? I mean there are budget phones from other manufacturers or even older iPhones you can buy. If you do not need the state of the art you have tons of options, but don't try to drag the entire iPhone or iPad down to YOUR level.

Well said. Thank you! Some people will never be happy.
 
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