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Next year's iPhone 17 models will come with 12GB of RAM, up from the 8GB of RAM expected across Apple's upcoming iPhone 16 models, a reputable source of accurate predictions about Apple's plans has claimed.

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Onboard memory in the existing iPhone 15 lineup is different between non-Pro and Pro models: The iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus feature 6GB of RAM, while the iPhone 15 Pro and iPhone 15 Pro Max come with 8GB of RAM. This difference is said to be the reason why Apple Intelligence – Apple's AI suite of on-device features – is only currently supported by the iPhone 15 Pro models.
Since it is a requirement for Apple Intelligence, all four of Apple's upcoming iPhone 16 models are expected to feature 8GB of RAM, as is the rumored iPhone SE 4, which is likely to launch in the spring. However, in a Weibo post on Wednesday, Chinese-language user "Phone Chip Expert" said next year's iPhone 17 models will have 12GB of RAM for more advanced on-device AI applications.

"If you're planning to switch to an AI-powered iPhone, the iPhone 17 in 2025 might be a better choice," said the leaker. "This year's iPhone 16 only has 8GB of RAM, with most of the AI processing done in the cloud. Next year's iPhone 17 will have 12GB of RAM and more edge AI applications. This is something to consider for those with a limited budget who want to upgrade their iPhone."
Edge AI applications refer to AI processing that occurs directly on the local device, rather than relying on cloud servers. "Edge" refers to the edge of the network, meaning the data processing happens close to the data source (the device itself), rather than in a centralized location like a cloud data center.

This isn't the first time we have heard rumors of additional RAM coming to Apple's 2025 iPhones. In a May 2024 research note with investment firm Haitong, analyst Jeff Pu claimed that the iPhone 17 Pro and Pro Max will be equipped with 12GB of RAM, while the iPhone 17 and even the rumored iPhone 17 "Slim" or "Air" with an all-new design would stick with 8GB of RAM. However, today's leaker appears to be suggesting that all iPhone 17 models will be equipped with the additional RAM, bringing AI-capable continuity to the lineup.
The leaker "Phone Chip Expert" has a track record of accurate predictions. Phone Chip Expert was the first to reveal that the iPhone 7 would be water-resistant and that the standard iPhone 14 models would continue to use the A15 Bionic chip, while the more advanced A16 chip would be exclusive to the ‌iPhone 14‌ Pro models. These forecasts were later confirmed by multiple credible sources and were proven correct when the products were released.
More recently, "Phone Chip Expert" was the first source of information about Apple developing its own AI server processor using TSMC's 3nm process, targeting mass production by the second half of 2025.

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EmperorVexx

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You need minimum 12-16 GB RAM for future proof. iPhone 16 must be a real stop gap for Apple. I am not sure is it worth buying with 4,6,8 GB RAM arrays now a days!
Well no one puts 8 GB RAM in phones anymore except Apple. Everyone has 12/16 GB RAM. Future proofing is a coping mechanism for people who overspend. Just get the latest device for the lowest/discounted price and upgrade 3 years later.

Rather spend 1.5K every 3 years than 3K every 8 Years.
 

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If that's true that would mean iPhone 17 will have 2x more RAM than iPhone 15 (12 vs 6GB RAM). Seems a bit too fast and generous from Apple ngl.

IMO next year, it's more likely that standard 17 will remain at 8GB and 17 pro will increase at 12GB RAM to convince more people buying pro model. Standard 17 is supposed to get for the first time 120Hz, they need to build at least one more excluvive feature for the pro model to avoid canibalising their higher margin iphone. Like some exclusive AI and photo features for the pro?
Wait & see I guess !
 
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Well no one puts 8 GB RAM in phones anymore except Apple. Everyone has 12/16 GB RAM. Future proofing is a coping mechanism for people who overspend. Just get the latest device for the lowest/discounted price and upgrade 3 years later.

Rather spend 1.5K every 3 years than 3K every 8 Years.
Apple's 8GB of RAM is equivalent to 32GB of everyone.
 

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Next year's iPhone 17 models will come with 12GB of RAM, up from the 8GB of RAM expected across Apple's upcoming iPhone 16 models, a reputable source of accurate predictions about Apple's plans has claimed.

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"If you're planning to switch to an AI-powered iPhone, the iPhone 17 in 2025 might be a better choice," said the leaker. "This year's iPhone 16 only has 8GB of RAM, with most of the AI processing done in the cloud. Next year's iPhone 17 will have 12GB of RAM and more edge AI applications. This is something to consider for those with a limited budget who want to upgrade their iPhone."
Apple Marketing folks just loving this guy 😆
 

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If that's true that would mean iPhone 17 will have 2x more RAM than iPhone 15 (12 vs 6GB RAM). Seems a bit too fast and generous from Apple ngl.

It's more likely IMO that standard 17 wild remain at 8GB and 17 pro at 12GB RAM next year to convince more people buying pro model. Standard 17 is supposed to get for the first time 120Hz, they need to build at least one more excluvive feature for the pro model to avoid canabialising their higher margin iphone. Like some exclusive AI and photo features for the pro?
Wait & see I guess !

I don't think ram will be an advertised differentiator. Apple has never talked about iPhone ram, and even having used iPhones once the 3g, I couldn't tell you how much ram any particular model has.
 

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Even 12 GB is ridiculous. Given the fact that RAM isn't that expensive, the iP17 should ship with 16GB and btw all Macs should finally ship with 16GB minimum.

Current top of the range consumer graphics cards like the 4090 ship with 24GB, the 5090 will incorporate 48GB and AI is the reason why. When looking at reasonable LLMs like llama 3.1:70b we're talking about roughly 140GB RAM. Remember that most entry level Macs ship with 128GB SSD.
https://abhinand05.medium.com/self-hosting-llama-3-1-70b-or-any-70b-llm-affordably-2bd323d72f8d

Those kind of models won't run on a smartphone in the foreseeable future, correct. But it is a good example why we are talking about RAM when we talk about AI.


I said this often enough during the last weeks/months but the iP17 will be Apples first reasonable AI phone.
 
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Sooooo even this year it's better to wait next year? Go figure.

Depends on our priorities, I guess. If we want a screen with a hole-punch design a-la Samsung S23-24, we may need to wait until iPhone 18. 😋
 

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iPhone 17 upgrades : more RAM, anti-reflective display, 48MP telephoto, 24MP selfie, possibly on 2nm TSMC node, smaller dynamic island, 120hz LTPO for base models
iPhone 16 upgrades : capture button

Yes, sitting tight this year with my iPhone 15, waiting for iPhone 17-18 for a more substantial upgrade. ✌️
 
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12GB does sound reasonable if Macs will now start at 16GB base. But it should happen this year, not next. Depending on the LLM tools they choose to use, it's up in the air how much will be a 'base' spec in 5 years... perhaps 64GB on computers and 32GB on phones? It's anyone's guess...
 
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