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Some part of me thinks some of these leaks are on purpose so that we get used to the new design, because after seeing those cameras over and over I’m starting to get used to them
I don’t think so. But I can see why it was chosen as a design. It’s iconic and instantly recognisable as an iPhone.
 
The regular Pro better starts at 256 GB as well now. You can't add 8K capabilities and keep it at the bare minimum when it comes to storage when Apple Intelligence is already eating it away as well.
 
Cheaper materials to reduce production costs already in this phone, I am fine with my 16 Pro I never update yearly but iPhones will get cheaper as build quality goes down especially internally, at least we get non Indian made iPhones in Europe. Apple had problems with build quality with Indian handsets last year. All I'm buying this year is a Studio with 1TB SSD and the base CPU with 36GB ram which will suit my needs just fine, and I want to do that before Apple decide to make cooling cheaper, or the internals out of cardboard.
 
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If the next iPhone gonna have camera bump like on the picture, it should have at least two 1” sensor. Or a 10X zoom. Otherwise I can keep on using my 15PM for few more years
 
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So, what about the Main and Most used 23mm Camera ?
Will it be unchanged again, same old sensor as 14 Pro (2022!), 15 Pro and 16 Pro?
Vivo x200 Ultra, Xiaomi 15u or Oppos x8 are far better right now and I would Like to see more than just a finally better Tele.
95% of my Pics are Taken with the Main Camera…
 
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I have plenty of cameras. Sometimes I like shooting with an iPhone; or I don't have a so-called "real camera" with me when I come across something interesting to make a photo of.

Having made tens of thousands of photographs, I can say the strength of a photograph has more to do with the photographer and his/her vision/eye and imagination, and not so much about what kind of camera is used. Of course there are edge cases - whether a phone cam or a regular camera.
Fair enough. I’m not a photographer so I respect your experience in this matter.
 
None of these look good, though no doubt the real iPhone 18 series will look better in person. Fugly camera bumps will be around for a few more years, it seems
 
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Apple usually doesn't waste space on their hardware. The extra space created by larger bump will have something there. I expect some sort of AI chip that helps render better pictures.
 
The 17 Air looks fine to me. But being a photographer, I'm interested in how the camera performs, and not how the back of the phone looks.
They will perform basically similar to the last year’s cameras in the iPhone. Some software tweaks will make things a bit better, maybe even some tweaks of the hardware. But ultimately they are minuscule sensors peering through tiny lenses. If you’re a photographer, stick to a camera for your photos. iPhone is wonderful for snaps and having something with you, truly impressive technology. But don’t expect any really noticeable difference year on year due to physical limitations.
 
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The millions of caseless iPhone users prove every day that there is absolutely no need "to prevent the camera bump touching/hitting anything when I put it down on a desk or charging pad."
Same people that have enough money to get a new phone each year, I suppose?
Well... I'd rather spend that money on more run-time (battery) than a bump.
 
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We've still got months to go before the new iPhone 17 models come out, but a combination of dummy models and leaks have given us some insight into what we can expect in terms of camera changes.

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Apple is adding new camera features, and changing the design of the camera bump for some models. You might be skeptical of dummy models, but over the years, they've proven to be a highly accurate reflection of Apple's design changes. It's case makers who suss out the info used for these dummy models, because there's big money in being the first to market with a case for a new device.

We've rounded up everything that we've heard so far about Apple's upcoming camera tweaks.

All iPhones

All four of the iPhones coming in 2025 are expected to have an upgraded 24-megapixel front-facing camera, which marks a major improvement over the current 12-megapixel front camera.

You'll be able to crop in further on selfies without a loss of quality with that size increase, plus we can also expect better low light performance and more detail in images.

iPhone 17 Pro

For the first time, the iPhone 17 Pro and Pro Max will have a trio of 48-megapixel lenses, with a 48-megapixel Fusion lens, a 48-megapixel Ultra Wide lens, and a new 48-megapixel Tetraprism Telephoto lens. The new Ultra Wide lens was introduced in the iPhone 16 Pro, and the upgraded Telephoto lens will be 2025's standout camera feature.

With 48 megapixels, it will be possible to crop in further on Telephoto images without losing detail, for even closer shots.

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Apple plans to focus camera marketing on video this year, and the iPhone 17 Pro models could support 8K video recording, up from 4K in the iPhone 16 Pro models. There might also be support for dual video recording, which would let users record video with both the front and rear cameras at the same time for sharing on social media.

There have been rumors suggesting the iPhone 17 Pro models might have a mechanical aperture that will let users adjust the amount of light reaching the lens. Apple has only used fixed apertures to date, but a variable aperture would allow for more customizable images with a shallower depth-of-field.

Along with all of these camera improvements, it looks like there's going to be a major camera redesign. Instead of a square camera bump, Apple's going to turn it into a rectangle. There will be a horizontal camera bar across the back of the iPhone 17 Pro and iPhone 17 Pro Max, and it'll house the cameras.

The lenses are still going to be in the same general orientation, apparently, with a triangular setup that packs them close together. The flash, microphone, and the LiDAR sensor will be moved further to the right at the other end of the rectangle. It's not clear why Apple is making this design change.

iPhone 17 Air

Because of interior space constraints, the iPhone 17 Air will have just one 48-megapixel Fusion camera. It won't have the room for an Ultra Wide lens or a Telephoto lens, because Apple is making the iPhone 17 Air super thin. Rumors suggest it'll be just 5.5mm thick.

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The iPhone 17 Air is getting the same horizontal rear camera bar as the iPhone 17 Pro, but it won't be as tall since it only needs to accommodate one lens. The camera lens will be on the left, and the flash and microphone will be on the right.

With just one camera, the iPhone 17 Air won't be able to capture spatial video or spatial photos, unless Apple has a new method for using a single-lens camera to capture that kind of footage.

iPhone 17

Aside from that 24-megapixel front-facing camera improvement, we haven't heard anything about the iPhone 17. The iPhone 17's rear camera seems to look the same as the iPhone 16's rear camera, with two lenses in a vertical arrangement at the left side of the device.

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It doesn't look like the standard iPhone 17 will get the same horizontal camera bar that Apple is introducing for the iPhone 17 Pro and iPhone 17 Air models.

We also haven't heard anything about sensor improvements, but that doesn't mean it's not a possibility. The iPhone 17 is expected to continue to feature a 48-megapixel Fusion lens and a 12-megapixel Ultra Wide lens.

Read More

For more on all of the features that are coming to the 2025 iPhone lineup, we have dedicated iPhone 17, iPhone 17 Air, and iPhone 17 Pro roundups.

Article Link: iPhone 17: What's New With the Cameras
When they said “dummy models”, I thought they were referring to the models with “Apple Intelligence”
 
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Some part of me thinks some of these leaks are on purpose so that we get used to the new design, because after seeing those cameras over and over I’m starting to get used to them
This is exactly what they do. And I’m getting used to the idea of skipping anything from Apple this year.

1. They screwed 16pro buyers over with not launching what was promised

2. The new design is made with cheaper materials

3. The difference between the 16 and 17 is going to be minimal at best minus the added bulk

4. Pricing will increase for negligible benefit

5. Apple is greedy and isn’t innovating as they used to. Will be trying a fold from Samsung or Google this year.

That said, Apple has done a great job making our household un-interested in anything now based on their lies and false advertising.
 
I still think the larger camera bump on the iPhone 17 Pro models may be hiding something Apple has not admitted to: the space from the larger "bump" will accommodate a 10x optical zoom periscope telephoto camera system with a 48 megapixel sensor. One that can accommodate up to 100x digital zoom with very little loss of detail.
 
IMX803 again?
I'm glad someone else is mentioning this, that's the main rear camera sensor module isn't it they've been using since the 14 series? Last year there were rumours of the newer module (IMX903) was going to be included in the 16PM and would have had better low light capabilities but then turned out it wouldn't be because that newer module had been released just after the 16 series were into production, so surely there is no excuse for it not to be used in the 17 series. This article from July 2023 talks about the IMX903 a 48 MP sensor, the IMX907 a 50MP sensor and the IMX989 a 1" sensor https://www.notebookcheck.net/Sony-...tphones-outlined-in-more-detail.735972.0.html
 
I don’t understand your logic. If you’re a photographer why don’t you buy a camera rather than a phone?

I mean. Sometimes having a really good point and shoot camera phone is going to be better than a good DSLR… mostly because… and hear me out. Carrying a camera bag everywhere really sucks.
 
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A lot of these mockups look like they have a credit-card magnetically attached to the back of the phone.

Yeah, what is with that darker-shaded rounded rectangle beneath the camera bump? Is that based on a leak or just the stylistic choice of one particular render artist?

In either case, it looks terrible...
 
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