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I’ve owned the iPhone air twice. Battery life was not fantastic either time for my use case. But your right, for my grandpa it does last him all day
for a normal user/ use case the battery is plenty fine and pretty much like previous non max pro phones etc. only for power users who are glued to their screen and stare all day long on it, it won't last a day. this is exactly the target group for pro max.
 
Cameras are getting ridiculous on phones now. I'm not a professional photographer and most other iPhone users probably aren't either.
Then the Pro phone is simply not for you

Just like I don't get the MacBook Pro to do simple web surfing
 
I remember people saying they will take a much bigger phone if it means more battery life. Well, Apple did it, on one of their phone lines, and people are complaining.
 
well, yes, otherwise the iphone "ultra" would be thicker than the "pro". We can't have that.
 
maybe it's not the same people. have you checked?
I see the same people complaining no matter what Apple does.
If Apple does A, they compare the disadvantages of A with the advantages of B. Then they say they want B.
If Apple does B, they compare the disadvantages of B with the advantages of A. Then they say they want A.
 
The iPhone X had a similarly curved design. Felt very nice in the hand.

It was around the iPhone 12 that they went back to the boxy design with squared-off edges, that still persists today.

Yes, iPhone X was pleasant to hold too! A great size, thickness and weight distribution.

The iPhone 3G/3GS had a distinct kind of curve, with the back plastic shell being convex:

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Perhaps that’s how they’ll justify the price increase. Arguing that you are getting more phone for your money, literally.
 
The Air takes care of the portability issue. I think the iPhone 18 Pro should focus on cameras and battery life and not worry about portability. Maybe Apple will figure out a way to sell both phones to a single individual and they can use the same phone number and take whatever device that makes sense for them for that day.

How can literally a phone that is a mobile, not consider portability, that should literally be the first consideration in my book.
 


The iPhone 18 Pro's aluminum frame and camera housing are both set to grow thicker than the iPhone 17 Pro's, according to new posts from the leaker known as "Fixed Focus Digital."

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In a post on Weibo today, the leaker said that aluminum alloy mid-frames are "going to be used in straight-edge phones for a long time to come," referring to Apple's continued use of the material introduced with the iPhone 17 Pro rather than a return to titanium. Citing leaked materials from Tata, the leaker claimed that the iPhone 18 Pro's overall body and rear camera plateau, will be thicker than the current model, corresponding to a roughly 2mm increase the leaker says it can now confirm firsthand. The leaker added that the final thickness figure "will indeed be somewhat surprising."

The post links to two of the leaker's earlier claims. In one, Fixed Focus Digital said the iPhone 18 Pro lineup "will still feature an aluminum alloy build" with "indeed excellent" heat dissipation, while warning that buyers should be cautious about the new color options given the discoloration and surface chipping that has affected some iPhone 17 Pro units. In the other, the leaker said supply chain feedback confirmed the iPhone 18 Pro's main camera upgrade and indicated that the aluminum alloy back panel would grow by 2mm.

That 2mm figure lines up with a separate post the leaker shared on July 4, which estimated that the iPhone 18 Pro models' overall thickness will land somewhere around 9.9–10.9mm. That would mark a substantial jump from the iPhone 17 Pro and iPhone 17 Pro Max, which both measure 8.75mm thick. It also builds on dummy models shared in April, which suggested the iPhone 18 Pro Max's camera plateau would grow to 11.54mm, up from 11.23mm on the iPhone 17 Pro Max.

The added bulk is reportedly tied to a redesigned main camera system. The device is widely rumored to feature the iPhone's first variable aperture, a component reported to cost Apple 50% more than the current fixed-aperture lens. Production of the new module is said to be ramping up at suppliers including LG Innotek and Sunny Optical.

The iPhone 18 Pro and iPhone 18 Pro Max are expected to launch alongside Apple's first foldable iPhone this September.

Article Link: iPhone 18 Pro Could Be Noticeably Thicker Than iPhone 17 Pro

Thats one way to make an Iphone Air attractive option.
I already hate the size of my current phone.
 
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This is my issue with the Pros. They are getting too big and heavy. I particularly appreciate the 17 this year because it features some of the Pro features that I have been wanting for years, in particular the Pro Motion display with always on. But without the bulk.
 
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