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To all of you who think parents are "bad" or "uncaring" or "unfit" if they don't understand technology you can take that and well... ya. There are plenty of parents out there who are good parents even tho they do not know how to use the iTunes store or use an iPod or iPhone. It just means they have not been sucked into the technology inferno that we all love and enjoy lol.

If you don't understand technology and yet you just hand your kid a computer connected to the internet -- whether it's your desktop or a laptop or a smartphone -- without taking the time to figure out how it basically works and what he's doing with it, then you're a crappy parent. Period.

If you have a kid, you have to deal with technology now. It's a basic part of the job, like teaching them about sex or how to drive a car. If you don't want to become at least basically functional with technology, enough to know what your kid is up to, then you shouldn't have a kid in the 21st century. That's just the way it is.
 
If you don't understand technology and yet you just hand your kid a computer connected to the internet -- whether it's your desktop or a laptop or a smartphone -- without taking the time to figure out how it basically works and what he's doing with it, then you're a crappy parent. Period.

If you have a kid, you have to deal with technology now. It's a basic part of the job, like teaching them about sex or how to drive a car. If you don't want to become at least basically functional with technology, enough to know what your kid is up to, then you shouldn't have a kid in the 21st century. That's just the way it is.

Did you know that some families only buy computers bc they are a nessecity almost? Lots of families actually sit around the table and play games and talk with eachother. Too many families waste their time away in front of facebook and in front of the computer. The real crime is how much time is wasted on the computer. Some parents like technology and some don't. I happen to be one of the ones who does like technology. Knowing about technology makes parenting easier, but it don't make you a bad parent if you don't.

My Inlaws don't know much about computers, or iPhones or iPods... but instead we sit around camp fires and TALK to eachother.

How many parents actually teach their kids about sex anyways... isn't that what teen pregnancy is for? Or wait... maybe that is to learn about abortion.

I am not excusing for the density of some parents who think that the world will be a perfect place for thier kids, I am just saying that your 35-40 year old parents who were brought up playing sports outside and working on cars are not even about to suspect that porn will be available through iTunes. EVEN IF THEY ARE TECH SAVY

To each thier own.... what would kids possibly need to be on a computer 6 hours a day for anyways?

Yes I'm a Dad.
 
Did you know that some families only buy computers bc they are a nessecity almost? Lots of families actually sit around the table and play games and talk with eachother. Too many families waste their time away in front of facebook and in front of the computer. The real crime is how much time is wasted on the computer. Some parents like technology and some don't. I happen to be one of the ones who does like technology. Knowing about technology makes parenting easier, but it don't make you a bad parent if you don't.

My Inlaws don't know much about computers, or iPhones or iPods... but instead we sit around camp fires and TALK to eachother.

How many parents actually teach their kids about sex anyways... isn't that what teen pregnancy is for? Or wait... maybe that is to learn about abortion.

I am not excusing for the density of some parents who think that the world will be a perfect place for thier kids, I am just saying that your 35-40 year old parents who were brought up playing sports outside and working on cars are not even about to suspect that porn will be available through iTunes. EVEN IF THEY ARE TECH SAVY

To each thier own.... what would kids possibly need to be on a computer 6 hours a day for anyways?

Yes I'm a Dad.

You don't have to like technology or know much about it. You just have to know enough of a minimal amount that you can sort of monitor what's going on and be able to engage with your kid about it. It's not optional. To act like a computer/smartphone/anything that plugs into the internet is a game console that you can just park your kids in front of is to abdicate your responsibility as a parent.

I'm a dad too.
 
You don't have to like technology or know much about it. You just have to know enough of a minimal amount that you can sort of monitor what's going on and be able to engage with your kid about it. It's not optional. To act like a computer/smartphone/anything that plugs into the internet is a game console that you can just park your kids in front of is to abdicate your responsibility as a parent.

I'm a dad too.

Thats why you don't act like that... What i'm saying is that there are many parents who have no idea how to set a parental control, or how to create their own kids username with account restrictions. Especially on a PC lol. Or how to change their kids iPod Touch parental settings. Again it doesn't mean they are poor or bad parents. It means they have no idea those options are there. Macs make it a little easier though....

The point i'm trying to make is that most parents don't know they have the options to do these things. Especially on a iPod. Doesn't mean they are bad parents.
 
Thats why you don't act like that... What i'm saying is that there are many parents who have no idea how to set a parental control, or how to create their own kids username with account restrictions. Especially on a PC lol. Or how to change their kids iPod Touch parental settings. Again it doesn't mean they are poor or bad parents. It means they have no idea those options are there. Macs make it a little easier though....

The point i'm trying to make is that most parents don't know they have the options to do these things. Especially on a iPod. Doesn't mean they are bad parents.

Handing a child an internet-connected device that you don't understand well enough to monitor is bad parenting. Period. (Assuming that you care about things like porn, and who your kid might be talking to, and that sort of thing.) I don't see how ignorance is a reasonable excuse. You either figure out how to monitor what your kid is doing with the device or you don't give it to him to begin with.

I mean, parental controls on the App Store are the tiniest slice of the problem. It's going to take Junior about eight seconds to be happily surfing through all the porn he wants in Mobile Safari. Or is it Apple's responsibility to somehow figure out a way to build a nudity-proof web browser, too?
 
So true. Alot of parents will really have no idea about this.. Unless this hits the news (which I'm guessing it will) as the iPhone/ iPod touch being a mobile porn device. This could hurt the image of the iPhone alot.


first of all, this is not porn. It displays topless woman.. Only in America, the land of Christian zealots would this be called porn. As to the issue, parents need to be involved in their childrens' lives. They cannot expect Apple and the government to raise their children.

Additionally, obviously there is extreme content available on the internet that is unhealthy for ANYONE, but "normal" sexual content shouldn't be a big deal. I was raised with an unfilitered internet connection, and looked at all kinds of porn with my friends, mostly as a joke. I didn't grow up into some weird deviant...
 
Handing a child an internet-connected device that you don't understand well enough to monitor is bad parenting. Period. (Assuming that you care about things like porn, and who your kid might be talking to, and that sort of thing.) I don't see how ignorance is a reasonable excuse. You either figure out how to monitor what your kid is doing with the device or you don't give it to him to begin with.

I mean, parental controls on the App Store are the tiniest slice of the problem. It's going to take Junior about eight seconds to be happily surfing through all the porn he wants in Mobile Safari. Or is it Apple's responsibility to somehow figure out a way to build a nudity-proof web browser, too?

I completely agree with you.

Furthermore, i think a parent who knowingly (has an understanding of itunes and parental controls) lets their ten year old play violent video games or view sexually suggestive materials, is a better parent than one who doesn't want their kid to view anything "inappropriate," but has no idea how to use itunes, so their kid ends up viewing it anyway.
A good parent is not defined by what a parent approves of or doesn't approve of. A good parent is one that has enough involvement in their child's life, to help guide them in a direction that they find suitable. If they find Grand Theft Auto suitable, that is their business, as long as they took the time to understand the contents of the game, along with their child. Look, the bottom line is different kids should have different rules. It is the responsibility of the parents to know their child and be involved enough with what their child is up to.
IT IS NOT APPLE'S RESPONSIBILITY TO PARENT. The only real responsibility of Apple, when it comes to mature content in itunes, is to give individuals a viable way to avoid or block said content. I don't know about you, but my Cable Television Provider (ATT UVERSE) has loads of hardcore porn on demand at the click of a few buttons... Does this mean that ATT is pro-porn, because they give their customers the option to purchase access to it? NO. If you don't want it, then dont go looking for it. As long as Apple doesn't have it "in-your-face" on the front page, it doesn't matter. I am a developer, and realize that some developers of mature material might argue, that not being allowed on the front pages of itunes, could lower sales... The reality is though, that when it comes to porn, if people want it, they will sure as h*ll find it. (let me also make it clear, that i dont consider this new app "Hottest Girls" or whatever its called, to be pornographic... but it is adult enough to be considered for "special" alternative placement in itunes, so that an 8 year old doesn't come across it as easily.)
 
You can download porn from any computer, and most computers are assembled in China.
I suspect China is filtering google because China is a communist country and wants to control the flow of information to it's populace. Banning lewd content is simply an excuse.

Apparently you haven't heard of "Green Dam," a software that the Chinese government is going to require computer manufacturers to install on all computers beginning next month. The software automatically blocks porn and political websites that the Chinese regime wants blocked. It's been all over the news, and the computer companies have gone strait to the U.S. Govt and complained. Now the U.S. Govt is getting involved, saying that this is a violation of World Trade Organization rules to order U.S. computer manufacturers to install a certain security software when software security companies compete for business and the consumer makes the choice.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2349289,00.asp?kc=PCRSS03069TX1K0001121
 
first of all, this is not porn. It displays topless woman.. Only in America, the land of Christian zealots would this be called porn.

Oh, you can't just blame the religious right. The extreme left is anti-nudity too, as it supposedly "objectifies women".
 
What happened:

Now with the new parental controls, explicit content can be added to the app store. It was already available in the music and video store. One app went from bikini clad women to topless women.

What some people think happened:

Pornography has started to take over the app store and it will be almost impossible to find anything else there. Also, will someone please think of the children?


Typical Macrumors.
 
What happened:

Now with the new parental controls, explicit content can be added to the app store. It was already available in the music and video store. One app went from bikini clad women to topless women.

What some people think happened:

Pornography has started to take over the app store and it will be almost impossible to find anything else there. Also, will someone please think of the children?


Typical Macrumors.

ROFL!
 
So sad...

It's so sad to see the iPhone refactored as the iPorn. Don't we get enough of this everywhere else? Now I get to see porn ads in my iTunes, thanks for nothing Apple.
 
wonder when the dating sim games will hit. They are insanely popular in Japan and can be quite hardcore and are essentially just slide shows although I've seen some that are a little animated or even full 3D models. The moment any of them come out sales in japan would skyrocket.
 
So esentially everyone agrees that if a parent is not involved in the same technology the kid is, then they are a bad parent.

So the parent who blocks porn from a child is better than the parent who explains why they believe porn is wrong to the child and has no idea it is available from the App Store?

It will be a sad day when all children know is Parental Blocks and that once they are removed they can do whatever they want.

Being a parent isn't about knowing how to set a parental block, it is about knowing how to teach your kid right from wrong.

I must say I know many parents who do not know how to set parental blocks and know much better how to teach right and wrong, than parents who can set parental blocks.

Even if I take a look back at my own childhood... my friends I grew up with turned out a lot better if they were taught how to make the decision istead of being forced into a decision by a block.

Now don't get me wrong of course, I am not saying Parental Blocks are a bad thing. But if that is all that you are doing to prevent your kids from porn and such than shame on you.

I still stand in arguing that the Explicit apps should be blocked by default.
 
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