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iPhone 3G Firmware Update 'Fixes' Yellowing of Screens?

phaggard said:
I assume most people posting here that got the Iphone 3G must be new to gadgets and must not have had any previous Palm or Pocket PC PDA's. If you think Apple is really messing up, you really need to talk to us that have had these other gadgets in the past. Compared to the PDA evolution, Apple is outstanding. If complaining about a yellow tint in the screen is the major complaint, that isn't anything. It took the Pocket PC software about 3 years to correct that problem. We started with very poor resolution screens and you had to buy the newest one every year hoping this one was going to be the good one. No? Wait for the next model. I think Apple has one fanstastic gadget and they are allowed to have a hickup here and there. Also giving a free major upgrade for older phones when they release a new model? Microsoft used to charge $29 - $39 for that type of upgrade.
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I had a Windows Mobile phone from Sprint, wasn't supported, always crashed.

I had 3 T-Mobile MDA's with Windows for my business; Microsoft & TMobile didn't allow OS upgrades, the OS was buggy, things as simple as ringing/notifications would cease working after as little as 24 hours of running. Indeed, the experience with Windows Mobile has never been good; and this is coming from a Windows C#/.NET programmer....
 
dguisinger said:
I had a Windows Mobile phone from Sprint, wasn't supported, always crashed.

I had 3 T-Mobile MDA's with Windows for my business; Microsoft & TMobile didn't allow OS upgrades, the OS was buggy, things as simple as ringing/notifications would cease working after as little as 24 hours of running. Indeed, the experience with Windows Mobile has never been good; and this is coming from a Windows C#/.NET programmer....
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Same here, I had the T-Mobile SDA (from HTC) - great phone, but it wouldn't sync with any of my Windows machines, after all sorts of ActiveSync updates on all of them. My iPhone syncs fine with my Windows desktop as an iTunes server.

Apple will fix the iPhone 3G, a very high-profile device...

The problem is that people have the original iPhone and the Touch (after the screen fix on that one) to compare it too. Any deviation from what people are used to may be seen as "defective".
 
They won't change them. Its intentional to use cheap screens in the iphone now. Cheap means bad quality. B Grade, inconsistent inferior screens,
in such high volumes that the overall saving for them, adds up to a very nice profit indeed!

GREEDY
 
Apple seems to be going backwards quality wise, back into the 90's.

I mean Thousands of colors displays on the imac and macbook is ridiculous!

Dithering ! Dithering Apple
 
dguisinger said:
I had a Windows Mobile phone from Sprint, wasn't supported, always crashed.

I had 3 T-Mobile MDA's with Windows for my business; Microsoft & TMobile didn't allow OS upgrades, the OS was buggy, things as simple as ringing/notifications would cease working after as little as 24 hours of running. Indeed, the experience with Windows Mobile has never been good; and this is coming from a Windows C#/.NET programmer....
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Agreed, I've gone through 5 Pocket PCs - all abysmal experiences. Yet, we will continue to hear from those who fervently support the Windows Mobile platform, claiming that things "have been improving..."
 
darrellishere said:
They won't change them. Its intentional to use cheap screens in the iphone now. Cheap means bad quality. B Grade, inconsistent inferior screens,
in such high volumes that the overall saving for them, adds up to a very nice profit indeed!

GREEDY
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The issue is not related to hardware but rather of software; as far as my knowledge, Apple is using the same screens from first generation iPhones. The fact is that Apple's intention was for a more polished, vibrant screen, and did so by altering the color-temperature in the software.

From Engadget:
We just spoke with Bob Borchers, senior director of product marketing for the iPhone, and he had some very interesting info regarding the "yellow screen" phenomenon we've been hearing about. According to Bob (and Apple), the screen's color temperature has been purposely altered on the new iPhone to produce warmer, more natural tones, sharper images, and deeper blacks. The company says that 1st gen iPhone screens appeared colder and less defined, and they made some adjustments for the new models.
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I agree with their decision; the screen is extremely sharp and displays an incredible depth of color.

darrellishere said:
Apple seems to be going backwards quality wise, back into the 90's.

I mean Thousands of colors displays on the imac and macbook is ridiculous!

Dithering ! Dithering Apple
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Backwards? Last I checked, they seem to have polished their line of products and have introduced hit after hit. Despite recent hiccups, Apple still makes above-par products with exceptional build quality. That said, you may want to keep in mind that Apple is a much larger entity from the '90s and garners far more attention and fanfare than any other Silicon Valley based technology company... realize that hiccups are bound to happen and are often exaggerated.

sparkleytone said:
People really will go to the ends of the earth to find something to complain about.
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You're telling me...
::sigh::
 
I updated my 3G to the newest firmware (the one not installed with the phone) and am not sure if there's a difference.

FYI, I'm really like the new iPhone 3G. I don't have any of the slowness other people are experiencing with my contact list (but I only have like 50 contacts) and the GPS is, excuse my language, kick ass. I tried to watch the little dot as I drove, and other then a few moments where it froze for a second, it kept up wonderfully. I'm really looking forward to a navigation app. I haven't really taken advantage of the 3G (I have wireless at home) but tomorrow at work I'll give it a good workout and see what sort of results I get.

Honestly, $200 is a lot of money but for the addition of GPS I gladly paid it.
 
New build - Yellow Screen?

The software restore to 5A347 did the trick. Thanks... just saved me an hour drive to my "local" Apple store demanding an exchange. Further adjustments would be nice, but this is no doubt an improvement. Did I just hear someone say... Color Calibration at the App store? Oh btw... 16GB White.
 
if you simply turn off auto-brightness and then turn up the brightness a bit it fixes the yellow to some extent.
 
spencerlamb said:
is anyone else experiencing slow type input when texting? i have 5A347 iphone 3G. does anyone no why this is happening or how it can be sorted?

Cheers
Spencer

Black macbook
Iphone 3g:eek:
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I find if I have several windows open in Safari my text input will lag, If I close it back down to one it is fine..
Clearly the home button doesn't completely close an application.

Good Luck
Nick
 
Safari lagging to...

i'm getting contact & Safari lagging, Safari keeps freezing, not that impressed + yet to get GPS in my Google map :confused:

been more impressed, but then i do tend to be a fault magnet, 1st iPhone: screen failed on touch, 1st MBA: twisted, 2nd MBA: freezes and HD clicks, Bose c5: keeps switching to standby...

love+hate, winner pending...


(oh and in 3pty app's, getting probs with the text edit lens thingy)
 
yellowing

the yellowing is a drastic improvement in color depth, people are so used to thinking that putting the white balance over all the way so whites as bright as the sun is extremely wrong. its the same with tv's, the closer you have your color temperature to the 6000-6500 range the more accurate your colors are going to be, have somebody come out to professionally calibrate your tv, and you'll see them go straight for the warm settings, because these are the most accurate according to color standards set by film and tv. its hard to get used to at first but as time goes all you'll start to notice an amazing difference in color depth field, especially in the gray scale range. its also better not to have the whites so bright because this will cause blurring on lcd screens, the warmer the tint, the smoother the movement. i apple dismisses this yellowing i will be upset, i noticed it immediately and was very pleased.
 
Yellowing fix...?

Personally I think this so called 'fix' is nonsense. I've upgraded and can't see any difference at all. It's still pretty yellow compared to the first gen iPhone.

I can live with the yellowing - but I do think it's not as nice to look at as before and I'd be thrilled if Apple released a fix to tone it down a bit.

In terms of the lag mentioned by several other posters on contacts, etc - yep, I've noticed that too.

GPS has been a bit wonky for me - though seems to be working OK now. When I'm at home (in West London) on wifi it's giving my location as Kansas! I feel like Dorothy in the Wizard of Oz.

And where on my first gen phone I got a strong Edge signal at home - on the 3G model I can only get GPRS. Same with my old iPhone now it's been upgraded to 2.0 software.

Added to all the problems with O2 last week, their disasterous pre-ordering shambles, low stock levels, etc, etc - overall I'm not wildly impressed by the transfer to 3G.

I was very much in two minds about upgrading - but decided to take the plunge and was lucky enough to pick up a 16gb model on day one. Now, I'm really not so sure. Web browsing on 3G is defintaely a bit quicker - but that's frankly about it.
 
It seems clear from posts that, for some people at least, there is a difference in "yellowness" between the two builds.

This difference either must be a mistake (in which case, poor quality control), or else Apple thought the yellowness needed to be adjusted (in which case, they should have done so before all the iPhones were released, instead of on a version that is currently only available by restoring your iPhone).
 
brucebrendon said:
i'm getting contact & Safari lagging, Safari keeps freezing, not that impressed + yet to get GPS in my Google map :confused:

been more impressed, but then i do tend to be a fault magnet, 1st iPhone: screen failed on touch, 1st MBA: twisted, 2nd MBA: freezes and HD clicks, Bose c5: keeps switching to standby...

love+hate, winner pending...


(oh and in 3pty app's, getting probs with the text edit lens thingy)
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installed, reloaded everything, seems more stable in apps (poss as i did through itunes this time) realised i'm dimmer than thought and gps only works outside, has sent my clock way off, btw i like the increase in home/app screens in 2.0 means i can stick stocks&shares miles away
 
QCassidy352 said:
how exactly was this "messing up?" The more yellow screen is intentional.
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Just because it was intentional, doesn't suddenly make it a good idea! A blunder in logic is still messing up. (perhaps a white balancer would be nice if they can just change colors on a whim)
 
I'm on an original iPhone and the text lag is pretty bad, especially in Mail, Safari, and SMS. I encountered the occasional lag before updating to 2.0, but since the update, it happens all the time. In general, 2.0 feels more sluggish to me.

spencerlamb said:
is anyone else experiencing slow type input when texting? i have 5A347 iphone 3G. does anyone no why this is happening or how it can be sorted?

Cheers
Spencer

Black macbook
Iphone 3g:eek:
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Or maybe Apple's "legendary" quality control isn't what it used to be?

In my first 20+ years of being an Apple customer, I encountered virtually no hardware problems. Since the iMac G5, it's been a different story. The iMac G5 failed within 3 months. My MacBook Pro was defective out of the box. And my new iMac 24" was DOA. I've also witnessed several friends deal with defective or DOA Apple hardware in the past few years.

And after Friday's update FIASCO, I wonder if Apple's really got it all together?


brucebrendon said:
i'm getting contact & Safari lagging, Safari keeps freezing, not that impressed + yet to get GPS in my Google map :confused:

been more impressed, but then i do tend to be a fault magnet, 1st iPhone: screen failed on touch, 1st MBA: twisted, 2nd MBA: freezes and HD clicks, Bose c5: keeps switching to standby...

love+hate, winner pending...


(oh and in 3pty app's, getting probs with the text edit lens thingy)
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phaggard said:
I assume most people posting here that got the Iphone 3G must be new to gadgets and must not have had any previous Palm or Pocket PC PDA's. If you think Apple is really messing up, you really need to talk to us that have had these other gadgets in the past. Compared to the PDA evolution, Apple is outstanding. If complaining about a yellow tint in the screen is the major complaint, that isn't anything. It took the Pocket PC software about 3 years to correct that problem. We started with very poor resolution screens and you had to buy the newest one every year hoping this one was going to be the good one. No? Wait for the next model. I think Apple has one fanstastic gadget and they are allowed to have a hickup here and there. Also giving a free major upgrade for older phones when they release a new model? Microsoft used to charge $29 - $39 for that type of upgrade.
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I think im going to keep the yellow tint. When you don't have another iphone next to you, you don't notice it and it makes the pictures pop out more.
 
Nitrox said:
I restored and reinstalled my I phone to get the new version. To this point I don't notice a difference.
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Did you manually download the new firmware or did iTunes get it for you?

Trying to figure out if manual download is needed prior to doing the restore.
 
katiepea said:
the yellowing is a drastic improvement in color depth, people are so used to thinking that putting the white balance over all the way so whites as bright as the sun is extremely wrong. its the same with tv's, the closer you have your color temperature to the 6000-6500 range the more accurate your colors are going to be, have somebody come out to professionally calibrate your tv, and you'll see them go straight for the warm settings, because these are the most accurate according to color standards set by film and tv. its hard to get used to at first but as time goes all you'll start to notice an amazing difference in color depth field, especially in the gray scale range. its also better not to have the whites so bright because this will cause blurring on lcd screens, the warmer the tint, the smoother the movement. i apple dismisses this yellowing i will be upset, i noticed it immediately and was very pleased.
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Yeah, but people aren't used to thinking in any sort of abstract way nowadays. They just think, oh, it looks a tad yellow, I want a fix, NOW. White light is uncommon in nature, so of course it's neither realistic nor probably very healthy, concerning how bright it can get. The old iPhone was plenty bright, too, so this whiteness and brightness thing starts to remind me of the megapixel myth.
 
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