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iPhone 3GS battery drained EACH morning ... ?

Sorry to hijack this thread, but I have no clue when it comes to my phone's battery. Can anyone tell me if these are decent results?

The usage time includes multiple emails, texts, about an hour of listening to my iPod and a tiny bit of web surfing.

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Coraline said:
Sorry to hijack this thread, but I have no clue when it comes to my phone's battery. Can anyone tell me if these are decent results?

The usage time includes multiple emails, texts, about an hour of listening to my iPod and a tiny bit of web surfing.

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Those are good results. I'm about half an hour behind you in standby and just over 1 hour in usage right now, and I'm at 77%, so those results seem fairly consistent.
 
For all the people just telling him to charge it change all his settings: There is something wrong with his battery.

3G
GPS: on
WiFi: on
Push: on
Fetch: 30 min
alarm: set

8 hour battery drain? ~15% max.
 
OK, just woke up, here are the stats:


I shut the iPhone down and started it back up when I went to sleep:
Battery charge: 89%
Use: 6h 30m
Stand-by: 8h

(WiFi and BT off)


When I woke back up, about 6 hours later (short night, have to work in a bit) these were the stats:

Battery charge: 0%
Use: 11h 27m
Stand-by: 14h 9m


Apparently the phone has been 'in use' for about 5 hours while I was asleep ...
so do you think it's time to:
a) find out which app is causing this trouble
b) call apple and get a replacement?

Thanks in advance
 
Could it be the alarm clock you're using? I have alarmtunes and i left it on without the charger, and the charge dropped 30% overnight. I guess that's nothing compared to 89% though...
 
mgpg89 said:
OK, just woke up, here are the stats:


I shut the iPhone down and started it back up when I went to sleep:
Battery charge: 89%
Use: 6h 30m
Stand-by: 8h

(WiFi and BT off)


When I woke back up, about 6 hours later (short night, have to work in a bit) these were the stats:

Battery charge: 0%
Use: 11h 27m
Stand-by: 14h 9m


Apparently the phone has been 'in use' for about 5 hours while I was asleep ...
so do you think it's time to:
a) find out which app is causing this trouble
b) call apple and get a replacement?

Thanks in advance
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If you rebooted the iPhone it's unlikely that an app is causing the battery to drain. How is the signal at your house?

The battery meter actually showed 0%? Did you get the 20% or 10% battery warning? I would think that at 0% battery your iPhone would just turn off... Maybe it needs to be calibrated...
 
mgpg89 said:
OK, just woke up, here are the stats:


I shut the iPhone down and started it back up when I went to sleep:
Battery charge: 89%
Use: 6h 30m
Stand-by: 8h

(WiFi and BT off)


When I woke back up, about 6 hours later (short night, have to work in a bit) these were the stats:

Battery charge: 0%
Use: 11h 27m
Stand-by: 14h 9m


Apparently the phone has been 'in use' for about 5 hours while I was asleep ...
so do you think it's time to:
a) find out which app is causing this trouble
b) call apple and get a replacement?

Thanks in advance
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A couple odd questions:

Do you have a cell signal where you put it at night? (My phone drains the battery *FAST* if I don't have a signal; which, in my bedroom, it often doesn't; so it tends to drain overnight.) Also, while EDGE may last longer than 3G, going one more step down generally makes it worse. Dropping to GPRS (the circle,) will drain the battery *MUCH* faster than being on EDGE. (At least, that was true of my two previous 3G-capable phones...)

Do you have it jailbroken? It's possible that some app is draining you. (From your posts, it sounds like you don't.)

Finally, unless you truly *MUST* be able to accept incoming calls/pages at night (job/personal requirements, whatever,) I suggest trying at least one night in Airplane Mode. Any voicemails or text messages will be delivered within a couple minutes of turning Airplane Mode off, but it would be a good test of the 'GPRS drain' or 'no-signal drain' theories.
 
I thought it was fairly well established that 3.0 has some battery life issues for some people, at least on older phones.

Before I upgraded to 3.0 I could get 2-3 days out of my phone if I didn't use it heavily (I don't have 3G on). Now after upgrade, i can barely last through the night without even using it.

3-4 hours "usage", and 8-10 hours standby is what it seems before I'm in the red.

At least, my issue cannot be due to battery, as it started after 3.0. I sort of suspect push notifications, as when that's on my router reports all sorts of paging to Apple push servers.

I tried to ay with notifications off, but I still only managed the same (although I did do an hour long web session, and listened to a 2 hour podcast - on 2.2 I could do that easy, however).

I'm going to do a sleep over night with max charge and see how I go tonight.
 
deliriousfenk said:
Could it be the alarm clock you're using? I have alarmtunes and i left it on without the charger, and the charge dropped 30% overnight. I guess that's nothing compared to 89% though...
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I use Apple's own 'Clock' app, so that can't be it ... right?
 
anjinhamarota said:
If you rebooted the iPhone it's unlikely that an app is causing the battery to drain. How is the signal at your house?

The battery meter actually showed 0%? Did you get the 20% or 10% battery warning? I would think that at 0% battery your iPhone would just turn off... Maybe it needs to be calibrated...
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The signal's excellent.

My iPhone did in fact turn off ... I couldn't start it until I docked it for a few minutes.
 
ehurtley said:
A couple odd questions:

Do you have a cell signal where you put it at night? (My phone drains the battery *FAST* if I don't have a signal; which, in my bedroom, it often doesn't; so it tends to drain overnight.) Also, while EDGE may last longer than 3G, going one more step down generally makes it worse. Dropping to GPRS (the circle,) will drain the battery *MUCH* faster than being on EDGE. (At least, that was true of my two previous 3G-capable phones...)

Do you have it jailbroken? It's possible that some app is draining you. (From your posts, it sounds like you don't.)

Finally, unless you truly *MUST* be able to accept incoming calls/pages at night (job/personal requirements, whatever,) I suggest trying at least one night in Airplane Mode. Any voicemails or text messages will be delivered within a couple minutes of turning Airplane Mode off, but it would be a good test of the 'GPRS drain' or 'no-signal drain' theories.
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Have a good signal where I sleep. How do you enable EDGE?

No, haven't jailbroken it.

I'll test the airplane mode tonight.
And a no-app phone tomorrow night.
 
mrkgoo said:
I thought it was fairly well established that 3.0 has some battery life issues for some people, at least on older phones.

Before I upgraded to 3.0 I could get 2-3 days out of my phone if I didn't use it heavily (I don't have 3G on). Now after upgrade, i can barely last through the night without even using it.

3-4 hours "usage", and 8-10 hours standby is what it seems before I'm in the red.

At least, my issue cannot be due to battery, as it started after 3.0. I sort of suspect push notifications, as when that's on my router reports all sorts of paging to Apple push servers.

I tried to ay with notifications off, but I still only managed the same (although I did do an hour long web session, and listened to a 2 hour podcast - on 2.2 I could do that easy, however).

I'm going to do a sleep over night with max charge and see how I go tonight.
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OK, please let me know how that worked out ...
 
mgpg89 said:
OK, just woke up, here are the stats:


I shut the iPhone down and started it back up when I went to sleep:
Battery charge: 89%
Use: 6h 30m
Stand-by: 8h

(WiFi and BT off)


When I woke back up, about 6 hours later (short night, have to work in a bit) these were the stats:

Battery charge: 0%
Use: 11h 27m
Stand-by: 14h 9m


Apparently the phone has been 'in use' for about 5 hours while I was asleep ...
so do you think it's time to:
a) find out which app is causing this trouble
b) call apple and get a replacement?

Thanks in advance
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Yeah, that! Your battery blows!
 
mgpg89 said:
When I woke back up, about 6 hours later (short night, have to work in a bit) these were the stats:

Battery charge: 0%
Use: 11h 27m
Stand-by: 14h 9m


Apparently the phone has been 'in use' for about 5 hours while I was asleep
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I think you should start thinking about which family member is sneaking into your room at night to play with your iPhone!
 
Eso said:
I think you should start thinking about which family member is sneaking into your room at night to play with your iPhone!
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Hahahah, I'll put some mouse traps around my bed when I go to sleep tonight ...
 
I'll call Apple in a few ...
especially because my dad's original iPhone can last for 2-3 days with Bluetooth and WiFi on all the time.
 
mgpg89 said:
OK, please let me know how that worked out ...
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Ok here's how it went. Not even a sliver of battery use. It was perfect. This has convinced me what was up. Checking the usage, it showed ONLY the 1 minute of usage before I went to bed and the 7 hours of standby.

This has convinced me - what has been causing the drain is a process running in the background while asleep (now see why apple doesn't want background apps? A rogue one could be disastrous). Now what is this background process? I don't know exactly. What I did was rebooting (the only thing different was I had a new version of skype installed and I had push notifications off). It was either some backgrond process was broken and running amok and the reboot cleared it OR it was the notifications process, and switching it off wasn't enough to kill the process - it needed a reboot too.

So I suggest you switch off both push services (email and notifications), reboot and see how you go.

My suspicion is that it's a bug related to push causing a process to function in background, thus explaining why only a few people experience this phenomenon and why the 'solution' only works for some. Perhaps the reboot is the most important part.
 
mgpg89 said:
OK, just woke up, here are the stats:


I shut the iPhone down and started it back up when I went to sleep:
Battery charge: 89%
Use: 6h 30m
Stand-by: 8h

(WiFi and BT off)


When I woke back up, about 6 hours later (short night, have to work in a bit) these were the stats:

Battery charge: 0%
Use: 11h 27m
Stand-by: 14h 9m


Apparently the phone has been 'in use' for about 5 hours while I was asleep ...
so do you think it's time to:
a) find out which app is causing this trouble
b) call apple and get a replacement?

Thanks in advance
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Looking at your report, I would say, as others have, that you have either:

A bad app that is running in the background even after you turn off and on your iPhone. The only fix is to remove all apps and add one or two at a time back on until you find the culprit. This problem is probably your least likely problem.

Your biggest battery drainer right now based on what you stated is GPRS, this is a constantly running service even if it has a strong signal. You can not select between GPRS/Edge this is automated by the phone and can not be controlled. Only 3G can be turned on/off which I assume you did turn it off since you do not have that service in your area. I believe this is your biggest culprit.

Other battery drainers are Push...if it is on it will drain your battery. I would recommend that you turn it off at night while you sleep. Push is going to cause the most problem with user battery life on ALL users phones.

Safari is draining batteries with open web pages. Those pages continue to refresh and run their codes even in the background. This will drain batteries pretty quickly on heavily coded pages.

Bluetooth, Location, and Fetch are NOT battery killers. I have mine on 24 hours a day and it uses maybe 5% of the battery in a 12 hour period. I have 3 headsets paired to bluetooth and it does NOT search for them. It does not do anything until a signal is sent to the iPhone by the headset device which activates the iPhone Bluetooth Chip. Then it is on and uses power, if your headset is OFF then for all purposes so is the iPhone even if the switch is on.

Location is the same...it does not run in the background until you activate an app that uses the service. If you have a bad app that does not shut down properly then yes this can be a battery killer...so check those apps that use location service. But leaving it on does not affect battery life.

Fetch is brief check of your email .vs Push which is constantly active to receive the data transmissions and if active in Push mode or in Push Email mode then you will use battery power.

After all of that...I would recommend that you swap out your iPhone as you do seem to have at least a partially defective battery.

I also recommend you call AT&T and find out what type of tower services your area. This will answer a lot of your questions. All phone users should know what type of service their home area has. GPRS, Edge, 3G and soon others will be active. AT&T may have a tower down in your area...find out.

Good Luck.
 
SFC Archer said:
Looking at your report, I would say, as others have, that you have either:

A bad app that is running in the background even after you turn off and on your iPhone. The only fix is to remove all apps and add one or two at a time back on until you find the culprit. This problem is probably your least likely problem.

Your biggest battery drainer right now based on what you stated is GPRS, this is a constantly running service even if it has a strong signal. You can not select between GPRS/Edge this is automated by the phone and can not be controlled. Only 3G can be turned on/off which I assume you did turn it off since you do not have that service in your area. I believe this is your biggest culprit.

Other battery drainers are Push...if it is on it will drain your battery. I would recommend that you turn it off at night while you sleep. Push is going to cause the most problem with user battery life on ALL users phones.

Safari is draining batteries with open web pages. Those pages continue to refresh and run their codes even in the background. This will drain batteries pretty quickly on heavily coded pages.

Bluetooth, Location, and Fetch are NOT battery killers. I have mine on 24 hours a day and it uses maybe 5% of the battery in a 12 hour period. I have 3 headsets paired to bluetooth and it does NOT search for them. It does not do anything until a signal is sent to the iPhone by the headset device which activates the iPhone Bluetooth Chip. Then it is on and uses power, if your headset is OFF then for all purposes so is the iPhone even if the switch is on.

Location is the same...it does not run in the background until you activate an app that uses the service. If you have a bad app that does not shut down properly then yes this can be a battery killer...so check those apps that use location service. But leaving it on does not affect battery life.

Fetch is brief check of your email .vs Push which is constantly active to receive the data transmissions and if active in Push mode or in Push Email mode then you will use battery power.

After all of that...I would recommend that you swap out your iPhone as you do seem to have at least a partially defective battery.

I also recommend you call AT&T and find out what type of tower services your area. This will answer a lot of your questions. All phone users should know what type of service their home area has. GPRS, Edge, 3G and soon others will be active. AT&T may have a tower down in your area...find out.

Good Luck.
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Thanks a lot!
Helped me out big time.

I just deleted all apps but the original ones from my iPhone and my problems seem to have disappeared.
Then I re-added the apps that don't require internet access and the problem is still solved, so now I still have a handful of apps that need re-adding one at a time, before I can tell which one is the culprit.

Is WiFi a battery killer? (when not browsing the internet or whatever => when it's just 'on')
 
whats going on

these shots were taken back to back no time spent on charger
 

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mgpg89 said:
Thanks a lot!
Helped me out big time.

I just deleted all apps but the original ones from my iPhone and my problems seem to have disappeared.
Then I re-added the apps that don't require internet access and the problem is still solved, so now I still have a handful of apps that need re-adding one at a time, before I can tell which one is the culprit.

Is WiFi a battery killer? (when not browsing the internet or whatever => when it's just 'on')
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While it's possible that it's a rogue app - adding apps one by one will not properly test which app is causing it unless you are willing to add just one app, playing with it for a day, checking push on and off and so on, before checking the next.

REad what I posted above. I have managed to switch from 'drain overnight' mode to my usual mode by disabling both push types AND a reboot. I didn't delete any apps (well, I updated to the newer Skype). Whether it's related to an app or push is not totally clear, but a reboot was necessary (or maybe a sync).

the key is this: during sleep you should be getting basically NO USAGE. I had mine on sleep all night last night and in the morning it hadn't changed from my 1 minutes usage before I put it to sleep.
 
!!!! I FOUND THE CULPRIT !!!!

It's Beejive!
After re-adding all my apps and putting my iPhone in stand-by for 15 minutes and checking the battery status & usage levels afterwards, Beejive was the only one that was consuming any battery ...

Now, I'm performing the test again with different app settings .. if the problem persists, I'm uninstalling it until an update comes along that takes care of this.


To the people who had a similar problem:
Do you have (the latest version of) Beejive (with push notifications) installed as well?
 
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