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How come all these news posts aboutthe 3GS getting so many thumbs down? Whats up with it?
 
After a brief chat with AT&T, it seems as though they're doing the following:

- if you owned a 1st Gen and are upgrading to a 3Gs you qualify immediately
- if you owned a 3G and are upgrading to a 3Gs you will qualify 18 months after your 3G purchase (hence a lot of January 2010 dates)
- if you owned a 1st Gen AND a 3G, you will qualify 12 months after your 3G purchase (hence a lot of July ~13 dates)

This is very poorly communicated but looks to be the situation, which is a tiny bit better than I thought it was last night as they're not totally hosing their most loyal customers.

Can anyone else confirm?

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Hmmm, if that is actually correct then the dec 09 date on mine is wrong because I owned both phones. Did you have to keep the original one active after upgrading?
 
Can someone explain how a SIM card swap should work, if the 1st gen iPhone I gave my brother is eligible for upgraded pricing, but my own 3G is not until December?

My brother got a totally new SIM card to use with his iPhone, when I upgraded to the 3G and I gave him my old phone. He did NOT use my original SIM card.

I have a 3G, with a new SIM card of course.

If I order a 3GS from Apple, and use my brother's phone line as the reference, so it shows me the cheaper upgrade being available, and I receive it in the mail -- what do I do? Is it somehow locked to his phone number? I am imagining it will have its own, new SIM card, like the 3G did?

I am ready to order a 3GS and give my 3G to my brother, but I want to make sure I can use the 3GS with my phone number, if I order it using his phone number to get upgrade pricing.

Thanks!


when you activate the line under his account, his old phone will stop working and his line will be tied to the sim in your phone. since the $30 data will already be added, all you have to do is use the pin device to pop out the sim on both phones. put your sim in the 3gs (the one from the old 3g) and put the sim in the 3gs into your old phone. the sim in the 1g iphone will not work anymore
 
Apologies if this is a dumb question. I recently (two months ago) bought the 3G. If I am willing to pay "full price," I can buy a 3Gs, right? Thanks.
 
I'm curious to find out if ATT is going to try and charge additional for MMS once it's available as well as what their tethering cost is. Since these features won't be available at roll out (typical ATT) and if we potentially have to change our existing plans does that reset the two year commitment clock?
 
If I understood the video correctly, the preorder phones are available starting at 7am. Anyone else would need to wait until the store opens.

That's correct. I just talked to a representative at my local AT&T store about a lot of different things and he did say that people who pre ordered may enter the store at 7am and people who haven't must wait until 9am (the normal opening time).
 
i know this video is probably official ATT video...........But it looks so fake, if i found it on youtube i would think that guys has too much time on his hands and needs to quit his stupid ****. Anyway have 3G Iphone and i dont think there is a need to upgrade for me yet so im waiting for 17th for 3.0
 
That is what AT&T employees do. They just don't understand that people want MMS and tethering so they tilt their heads. Sort of like when dogs do when you make a puzzling sound.

LOL!

Interesting that Apple's commitment to an "affordable" iPhone (as it was put yesterday at the keynote) is more or less compromised by a: "while supplies last" caveat. What happens when the 8GB and 16GB 3G models are gone? Are they going to make the 3Gs' suddenly "affordable"?

No, I didn't think so, either. :apple:
 
Then why have I been a customer with ATT now for 4 years, while always having one of the most expensive plans and not missed a single payment and yet I am still not eligible until Jan 2010?

It's the same reason why they did not charge me for my plan a few months ago, because AT&T doesn't know what the hell they are doing.

After a brief chat with AT&T, it seems as though they're doing the following:

- if you owned a 1st Gen and are upgrading to a 3Gs you qualify immediately
- if you owned a 3G and are upgrading to a 3Gs you will qualify 18 months after your 3G purchase (hence a lot of January 2010 dates)
- if you owned a 1st Gen AND a 3G, you will qualify 12 months after your 3G purchase (hence a lot of July ~13 dates)

This is very poorly communicated but looks to be the situation, which is a tiny bit better than I thought it was last night as they're not totally hosing their most loyal customers.

Can anyone else confirm?

I am an owner of both, and I have a December 12th, 2009 date to upgrade. If I wait to that date and get a phone I will not be eligible to get a an iPhone when they are released next year. This is a bad cycle. Looks like I will be skipping this generation...
 
After a brief chat with AT&T, it seems as though they're doing the following:

- if you owned a 1st Gen and are upgrading to a 3Gs you qualify immediately
- if you owned a 3G and are upgrading to a 3Gs you will qualify 18 months after your 3G purchase (hence a lot of January 2010 dates)
- if you owned a 1st Gen AND a 3G, you will qualify 12 months after your 3G purchase (hence a lot of July ~13 dates)

This is very poorly communicated but looks to be the situation, which is a tiny bit better than I thought it was last night as they're not totally hosing their most loyal customers.

Can anyone else confirm?

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ATT's website says I'm eligible on July 13th...I got a 3G on launch day, but never owned an original iPhone. It's almost worth waiting just so you don't have to deal with ATT!
 
What do you expect the other carriers to do?

Really its not that hard of a concept... you bought a subsidized phone and agreed to keep it for 2 years. The same thing happened to me when I bought the Verizon Razr way back in the day, and they released a new one a year later. I didn't bitch and moan because I knew what I agreed to. You can't have both the benefit of an unsubsidized phone and the cost savings of a subsidized one at the same time.

The point of subsidized phones is not to lock you into a phone for 2 years. The point of subsidizing a phone is to make it more attractive for you to become a customer. They shouldn't care what phone you have, as long as they keep you as a customer. The money they lost in subsidizing a phone is insignificant compared to the money the get out of you each month.

I agree, however, that all cell companies do it, and it is stupid. That said, AT&T knows that everyone wants an iPhone and are switching to them to get it. I will acknowledge your point that they may choose to invest their subsidized resources getting new customers. But if that is the point of the subsidy, then it shouldn't be available to existing customers at all, because they have you hooked already. Rewarding you after two years with a new phone is fairly pointless if you wanted one 1 year ago. All it does is piss people off -- including you and me.

But I hear your point.
 
I want to know why I have to wait until March, 2010 to upgrade my iPhone 3G, when I bought it last July on launch day, just like everyone else.

Why so much negative to this story? Seems people are voting based on their own short-comings?

You have a contract with AT&T. With that, they subsidized your 3G phone to give you a cheaper price. In exchange for that, you agreed to a contract. As a part of that contract, depending on how much your monthly bill is you have to keep the subsidized phone for x amount of time before they will renew.

For you that number is longer than 12 months. Which is the same case for most people with 3G iphones.
 
After a brief chat with AT&T, it seems as though they're doing the following:

- if you owned a 1st Gen and are upgrading to a 3Gs you qualify immediately
- if you owned a 3G and are upgrading to a 3Gs you will qualify 18 months after your 3G purchase (hence a lot of January 2010 dates)
- if you owned a 1st Gen AND a 3G, you will qualify 12 months after your 3G purchase (hence a lot of July ~13 dates)

This is very poorly communicated but looks to be the situation, which is a tiny bit better than I thought it was last night as they're not totally hosing their most loyal customers.

Can anyone else confirm?

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Nope, I have been with AT&T since 1997, purchased both gen 1 & 3g iPhones on launch day, have never been late on my payments, and have dutifully paid these shmucks $83 every month. My upgrade date for being such a "valuable customer" is March 2010!
They can suck my cojones.
 
Then why do some people get eligibility in July, when they signed the very same two-year contract I did. This is the question no one seems to be able to answer.

Because they have a higher monthly bill than you. Thus AT&T makes more money off of them and can offer them a new subsidy sooner.
 
iPhone looks great, it's the carrier that looks in trouble!

i agree. i was excited to get the iphone 3g last year not realizing how much i'm gonna be hating the service. the iphone series is a great device. unfortunately, it's mostly an ipod with some internet connection away from home/office and an overpriced monthly plan. i don't think i'm pulling the trigger that quick this time. i'll just dread the service for another year and see who will get the next iphone service contract - hopefully verizon
 
ATT's website says I'm eligible on July 13th...I got a 3G on launch day, but never owned an original iPhone. It's almost worth waiting just so you don't have to deal with ATT!

I checked at it said I was eligible Dec 11. I did have an original iPhone and got the iPhone G3 opening day.
 
After a brief chat with AT&T, it seems as though they're doing the following:

- if you owned a 1st Gen and are upgrading to a 3Gs you qualify immediately
- if you owned a 3G and are upgrading to a 3Gs you will qualify 18 months after your 3G purchase (hence a lot of January 2010 dates)
- if you owned a 1st Gen AND a 3G, you will qualify 12 months after your 3G purchase (hence a lot of July ~13 dates)

This is very poorly communicated but looks to be the situation, which is a tiny bit better than I thought it was last night as they're not totally hosing their most loyal customers.

Can anyone else confirm?

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Just to clarify, this means if I own a 1st Gen I can qualify right away for the upgrade pricing, regardless of whether I'm still in my two-year contract or not?
 
I wonder if it will be delivered on June 19th, but anyway I am happy no crazy lines this year. :D
 
Maybe I'm dumb, but I kind of understand what there getting at, so if you just try to go in at normal business hours and get a phone that's not pre ordered there is no guarantee you will get one?

My plan is to just do that, and if that fails then I'll order from apple. They make it sound that there only gonna do the pre-ordered iPhones, and not get any more inside the store.
 
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