iPhone 3GS vs iPhone 4 design

[JoshBoy]

I wouldnt say that, cause the 4 is nowhere near that kind of speed increase.

As you can see here, the 3GS and the 4 are cut from the same cloth. Of course the 4 is marginally faster, its clocked a little higher.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2F4O0QIzC4

First of all I need to know - do you own both a 3GS and an iPhone4?

First you need to know that the speed on the 3GS is 600MHz not 733 as you stated, the iphone 4 is running at 1Ghz now math has always come pretty good to me and I actually gave you an example that was favourable to your argument. You stated my comparison was to big a boost from 2.4 to 3.0 when 600 to 1000 is nearly double?? I think someone is now clutching at straws, I think someone is a little upset that they got a 3GS under the xmas tree instead of a 4. You are also forgetting the fact of the large RAM increase.

"Even though iPhone 4 is rendering 4 times the pixels on its new, high resolution Retina display, it does more faster than the recent iPhone 3Gs! iPhone 4 consistently loads and renders web pages faster than the snappy iPhone 3Gs.

Part of the speed increase is due to the faster Apple A4 processor (like the iPad), another factor is the new HSUPA support in iPhone 4. That means in supported areas, iPhone 4 will have up to 60% faster downloads and up to 500% faster uploads. This test result is likely to have reflected both these factors."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0V2rhMnncZQ&feature=player_embedded#at=160

To note to people saying reception is not as good I say please show me comparable tests because in sections of my building at work on the 3G and the 3GS I would loose all signal or drop to edge from 3G, once I got the iphone 4 I would have 2 bars of 3G in those locations, same telco.
At the end of the day your argument holds nothing... sorry.

 

[kre62]

First of all I need to know - do you own both a 3GS and an iPhone4?

First you need to know that the speed on the 3GS is 600MHz not 733 as you stated, the iphone 4 is running at 1Ghz now math has always come pretty good to me and I actually gave you an example that was favourable to your argument. You stated my comparison was to big a boost from 2.4 to 3.0 when 600 to 1000 is nearly double?? I think someone is now clutching at straws, I think someone is a little upset that they got a 3GS under the xmas tree instead of a 4. You are also forgetting the fact of the large RAM increase.

"Even though iPhone 4 is rendering 4 times the pixels on its new, high resolution Retina display, it does more faster than the recent iPhone 3Gs! iPhone 4 consistently loads and renders web pages faster than the snappy iPhone 3Gs.

Part of the speed increase is due to the faster Apple A4 processor (like the iPad), another factor is the new HSUPA support in iPhone 4. That means in supported areas, iPhone 4 will have up to 60% faster downloads and up to 500% faster uploads. This test result is likely to have reflected both these factors."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0V2rhMnncZQ&feature=player_embedded#at=160

To note to people saying reception is not as good I say please show me comparable tests because in sections of my building at work on the 3G and the 3GS I would loose all signal or drop to edge from 3G, once I got the iphone 4 I would have 2 bars of 3G in those locations, same telco.
At the end of the day your argument holds nothing... sorry.

Wow


1) Show me where I said the 3GS was 733mhz. I have never once claimed that.

2) The iPhone 4 runs at 800mhz. Confirmed by many tech blogs, and is inline with expectations based on benchmarks between the 4, 3GS, and iPad. Geekbench reports a speed of 800mhz as well.

Sorry Jack, the 4 is good, just not as much of an improvement as you think.

 

[JoshBoy]

Wow


1) Show me where I said the 3GS was 733mhz. I have never once claimed that.

2) The iPhone 4 runs at 800mhz. Confirmed by many tech blogs, and is inline with expectations based on benchmarks between the 4, 3GS, and iPad. Geekbench reports a speed of 800mhz as well.

Sorry Jack, the 4 is good, just not as much of an improvement as you think.

My apologies, I could have sworn that you quoted 733 and the information I read did state 1Ghz until testing at a far later date than launch.

You are still dodging the fact that the RAM makes a world of difference, you are still dodging the fact that the display is a huge game changer and you see this when going back to the older 3GS.
You are still dodging my question around what you own and in relation to my maths on the example you have dodged that even on this new info. A bump of 200MHz from 600 to 800 is a 25% increase, a bump from 2.4GHz to 3.0 is an increase of 20%..... Jack

 

[Savor]

3GS looks exactly the same from the 3G of 2008.

Ergonomics - 3GS, round backside > boxy, squarish feeling

Design - 4, shiny glass art > plastic

Personally, I don't care about design and prefer more about function which the 4 has over any previous iPhone.

I can customize the back of the 4 if I want. The Apple logo on the back doesn't scratch like the 3GS. I can easily remove the battery and manually replace it myself. The 4 also has the front-facing camera which can serve me better in the longer-run. The 4 can get demoted to iPod touch, but I can still make video calls using FaceTime or Skype. So I can still text and make video calls via WiFi once the SIM is inactive or removed. The screen is much nicer. It also has better still photos and video recording capability. The LED flash can be useful in those dark motel rooms with my girl.

Design is subjective. But "looking better" can only get you so far once the limitations start to rear its ugly head. Having more practical features can serve you better in the longer-run.

 

[kre62]

My apologies, I could have sworn that you quoted 733 and the information I read did state 1Ghz until testing at a far later date than launch.

You are still dodging the fact that the RAM makes a world of difference, you are still dodging the fact that the display is a huge game changer and you see this when going back to the older 3GS.
You are still dodging my question around what you own and in relation to my maths on the example you have dodged that even on this new info. A bump of 200MHz from 600 to 800 is a 25% increase, a bump from 2.4GHz to 3.0 is an increase of 20%..... Jack

Instead of being angry and argumentative, just arm yourself with this knowledge. Next time Apple gives you a whiz-bang design, and extra thrill-and-chill features, ignore all that and check the internals.

This way, even if the i5 is an exact replica of the 4 from a visual standpoint, you will be able to be one of the smart ones who realizes it is a generational upgrade, and that a new chipset, processor, and next-gen graphics chip will be relevent far longer then old tech with lipstick on it.

Glad I waited, and glad I didn't fall for the idea that the 3GS was a minor upgrade to the 3G, when in fact it was a huge generational leap, and shares its blood with the 4 and original ipad. Now when I get the 5, I will have the tech that will last prob. 2 cycles instead of one-and-done like the 4.

 

[JoshBoy]

Instead of being angry and argumentative, just arm yourself with this knowledge. Next time Apple gives you a whiz-bang design, and extra thrill-and-chill features, ignore all that and check the internals.

This way, even if the i5 is an exact replica of the 4 from a visual standpoint, you will be able to be one of the smart ones who realizes it is a generational upgrade, and that a new chipset, processor, and next-gen graphics chip will be relevent far longer then old tech with lipstick on it.

Glad I waited, and glad I didn't fall for the idea that the 3GS was a minor upgrade to the 3G, when in fact it was a huge generational leap, and shares its blood with the 4 and original ipad. Now when I get the 5, I will have the tech that will last prob. 2 cycles instead of one-and-done like the 4.

I give up.... the reason I give up is you continue to dodge every question placed at you. You have however admitted to the fact that you don't own the iphone 4 so your argument is not based on real experience.

iPhone 4 was an awesome upgrade as described by other users in this forum in regards to the cameras, flash, speed, ram, screen and form.

You enjoy your 3GS, i personally love upgrading each year because I have the arrogant pleasure of doing so because I can.

This is my last post to you little boy, have fun trolling through the forums as your record clearly shows.

 

[kre62]

I give up.... the reason I give up is you continue to dodge every question placed at you. You have however admitted to the fact that you don't own the iphone 4 so your argument is not based on real experience.

iPhone 4 was an awesome upgrade as described by other users in this forum in regards to the cameras, flash, speed, ram, screen and form.

You enjoy your 3GS, i personally love upgrading each year because I have the arrogant pleasure of doing so because I can.

This is my last post to you little boy, have fun trolling through the forums as your record clearly shows.

Trolling: The last resort of someone with no rebuttal, and no valid argument. Any time you lose an argument, the other guy must've been trolling. If you look at my posts 95% are exceptionally well written guides and tips to help people on this forum. The other 5% is presenting well-reasoned argument to people like you.

Yes I didn't address your Pentium 4 comparison. Why? It was too easy. You actually proved my point for me. A person upgrading the same OG P4 chip from 2.4 to 3.0 would see barely any difference in real world performance. I know, I did it back then. I was pissed, that was a waste of money.

I was all set to get the 4 until it had antenna issues, and Apple was too arrogant to admit it was a design flaw. No worries, glad I waited.

 

[Savor]

Take a poll and nobody would pick the iPhone 3G as the best-looking one. And the 3GS is the more powerful twin of the 3G, so the answer is pretty much the same when it comes to design. In fact, the iPhone 3's are the cheapest made of them all. The original or the 4 would be the most popular picks from a design stand-point.

I give credit to the 3's to have more grip when we hold it although it wobbles if we lay it down. The 4 is too slippery and has sharp edges. Then again, a case makes it moot.

I find the 4th-6th gen could be when Apple peaks with their iPods and iPhones.

The 4th gen iPod (photo) gave us color. It was the 5th gen that gave us video playback that I felt was the best-looking. The 6th gen wasn't all that great-looking, but it was the last of its "classic" kind.

The 4th and 5th gen iPod nanos were awesome and felt Apple downgraded with the 6th gen.

And look at the current iPhone.

Heck, my favorite season from LOST was the 4th one even if it was the shortest one. My favorite season from 24 was the 5th one that garnered all those Emmys. I didn't expect Family Guy to be funny once it came back in 2005 just like I felt with The Simpsons. I don't expect iPhones to be the best and most popular phone after 10-15 straight years with it. After awhile, every good thing comes to an end in freshness and becomes more of the same.

It takes maybe a few years until things get ironed out from the trials and errors of hardware and software. Even Microsoft took 5 years to make the best Xbox 360 version with the slimmer models.