iPhone 4 and Mac OS X Tiger

[atticus570]

has anyone been able to use there iphone 4 with mac 10.4.11 i know it say on apple.com 10.5.7 required but in the updated manual it says 10.5.7 is only required to sync notes and to use as a modem and that 10.4.11 one will work. i dont have leopard and my pc is a serious slow p.o.s

 

[muledogus]

I'm in the same boat. No solution yet.

 

[Chakalaka]

makes no sense why they can support windows XP, 7, vista and they couldn't write a patch for Tiger.

 

[atticus570]

yeah real stupid i think that will come back them to kick them in the ass

 

[mulletonabike]

Ive had to bite the bullet and but Leopard.
NOT HAPPY. THIS IS A FARSE!

 

[BladesOfSteel]

yeah real stupid i think that will come back them to kick them in the ass

How so?

The percentage of those mac users running 10.4 is what, less then 5%? I don't think Apple is going to give a second thought to not running 10.4, and outside of these type forums I don't think there will be anyone that really takes note.

Tiger came out in 2005. Leopard came out in 2007, and Snow Leopard came out last year. How long do you want Apple to support an OS for what amounts to a handful of people?

On the other hand, XP, Vista and 7 are on what, 75% of computers? It would make sense for them financially to support the different versions of Windows.

It's all about the money. It always is.

Apple isn't a non-profit.

 

[maupupo]

Stupid

How so?

The percentage of those mac users running 10.4 is what, less then 5%?

You bet we´re over 15% of users. And if it´s a matter of money, again it wouldn´t cost them a dime to release a patch for Tiger. The reason is the same stupidity: to force us to buy a new Mac or a new software. My Macbook is 3 years old and in perfect conditons, never had a single problem.
Now I won´t be buying machines every 1 or 2 years, especially when they supress, in thew Macbook, the Firewire jack to replace for a new jack that FORCES US, AGAIN, to buy an adaptor!! I´m not far from buying a PC, seriously... Toshiba and Dell are fantastic, very durable machines by the way.

Plus, iPhone 4 won´t do bluetooth (it won´t work at all) or Flash (simply inexistent). So I might be going to a Blackberry or Samsung with amoled display, they owe nothing to iPhone. Then let Apple come after my money.


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[azhava]

I'm pissed too....how come the new Windows apps won't work on my '386 running DOS 3.22??? I even upgraded the RAM from 640k to a whole 1MB!!! 😀

 

[Interstella5555]

I'm pissed too....how come the new Windows apps won't work on my '386 running DOS 3.22??? I even upgraded the RAM from 640k to a whole 1MB!!! 😀

That's a ridiculous comparison. iPhone 4 is supported on XP, Vista an 7, and Leopard and SL. Why Apple couldn't make the phone and iTunes 10 Tiger compatible is beyond me, but so is your hyperbolizing.

 

[applebook]

How so?

The percentage of those mac users running 10.4 is what, less then 5%?

You bet we´re over 15% of users. And if it´s a matter of money, again it wouldn´t cost them a dime to release a patch for Tiger. The reason is the same stupidity: to force us to buy a new Mac or a new software. My Macbook is 3 years old and in perfect conditons, never had a single problem.
Now I won´t be buying machines every 1 or 2 years, especially when they supress, in thew Macbook, the Firewire jack to replace for a new jack that FORCES US, AGAIN, to buy an adaptor!! I´m not far from buying a PC, seriously... Toshiba and Dell are fantastic, very durable machines by the way.

Plus, iPhone 4 won´t do bluetooth (it won´t work at all) or Flash (simply inexistent). So I might be going to a Blackberry or Samsung with amoled display, they owe nothing to iPhone. Then let Apple come after my money.


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So you have no problem spending $700 on an iPhone 4, but $30 to upgrade your MacBook to SL is too much? 🙄

Where's Flash on BlackBerry? Or even the Samsung Galaxy S for that matter (no FroYo yet)?

You must be a noobie to be this uninformed.

Of course Apple is after your money. News flash! Dell, Toshiba, RIM, and Samsung might want your money too 🙄

Why should Apple care about users of an ancient operating system? Are tens of thousands of these users likely to spring for a luxury smartphone when they don't care enough to get a significantly better OS like Snow Leopard?

That's a ridiculous comparison. iPhone 4 is supported on XP, Vista an 7, and Leopard and SL. Why Apple couldn't make the phone and iTunes 10 Tiger compatible is beyond me, but so is your hyperbolizing.

There tens of millions of people still using Vista and even XP. How many are still stuck in Tiger?

Sorry, but Apple isn't going to develop specifically for a tiny population that is too cheap to get a newer Mac. A used MacBook can be had for under $500. Consider that before a $700-800 smartphone.

 

[Interstella5555]

So you have no problem spending $700 on an iPhone 4, but $30 to upgrade your MacBook to SL is too much? 🙄

Where's Flash on BlackBerry? Or even the Samsung Galaxy S for that matter (no FroYo yet)?

You must be a noobie to be this uninformed.

Of course Apple is after your money. News flash! Dell, Toshiba, RIM, and Samsung might want your money too 🙄

Why should Apple care about users of an ancient operating system? Are tens of thousands of these users likely to spring for a luxury smartphone when they don't care enough to get a significantly better OS like Snow Leopard?



There tens of millions of people still using Vista and even XP. How many are still stuck in Tiger?

Sorry, but Apple isn't going to develop specifically for a tiny population that is too cheap to get a newer Mac. A used MacBook can be had for under $500. Consider that before a $700-800 smartphone.

Oh wow, you were almost making sense and then you totally blew it. Apple already devleops for that population, it's call people who own Windows machines. Regardless of that asinine bit of information, it's not a hardware issue. I do own a MBP. That was released in 2006. That came with Tiger installed on it. It ran Tiger like a champ. It runs Leopard like a champ. Yet its the same hardware. You clearly don't need a new mac to run Leopard, which means that there's no hardware reason that the iPhone 4 shouldn't be able to run on any intel Mac. If you had tried to make the argument that Apple isn't going to support people who don't want to pony up $29 to upgrade to SL, you may have had a point, but your hardware argument is both poor and misplaced.

 

[Green™]

So you have no problem spending $700 on an iPhone 4, but $30 to upgrade your MacBook to SL is too much? 🙄

Where's Flash on BlackBerry? Or even the Samsung Galaxy S for that matter (no FroYo yet)?

You must be a noobie to be this uninformed.

Of course Apple is after your money. News flash! Dell, Toshiba, RIM, and Samsung might want your money too 🙄

Why should Apple care about users of an ancient operating system? Are tens of thousands of these users likely to spring for a luxury smartphone when they don't care enough to get a significantly better OS like Snow Leopard?



There tens of millions of people still using Vista and even XP. How many are still stuck in Tiger?

Sorry, but Apple isn't going to develop specifically for a tiny population that is too cheap to get a newer Mac. A used MacBook can be had for under $500. Consider that before a $700-800 smartphone.

Oh wow, you were almost making sense and then you totally blew it. Apple already devleops for that population, it's call people who own Windows machines. Regardless of that asinine bit of information, it's not a hardware issue. I do own a MBP. That was released in 2006. That came with Tiger installed on it. It ran Tiger like a champ. It runs Leopard like a champ. Yet its the same hardware. You clearly don't need a new mac to run Leopard, which means that there's no hardware reason that the iPhone 4 shouldn't be able to run on any intel Mac. If you had tried to make the argument that Apple isn't going to support people who don't want to pony up $29 to upgrade to SL, you may have had a point, but your hardware argument is both poor and misplaced.

I'm seriously surprised that both of you missed the real problem. Tiger is the most advanced OS you can run on a PPC. Thus, you cannot use an iPhone if you're running a mac from 2005 or earlier. That's only five years for some macs, and there still running. I only retired my 2004 G4 last year. Trust me that others are pissed that there isn't a $30 solution, they have to buy brand new Macs.

 

[Ivan P]

I'm seriously surprised that both of you missed the real problem. Tiger is the most advanced OS you can run on a PPC. Thus, you cannot use an iPhone if you're running a mac from 2005 or earlier. That's only five years for some macs, and there still running. I only retired my 2004 G4 last year. Trust me that others are pissed that there isn't a $30 solution, they have to buy brand new Macs.

I'm seriously surprised that you missed the fact that Leopard is actually the most advanced OS that you can run on a PPC machine. They can run all the way up to 10.5.8. Snow Leopard was the first Intel-only OS X release. So technically PPC users can use an iPhone 4 with their computer with no issues if they bother upgrading to Leopard, there's no reason that they need to buy brand new machines.

 

[Green™]

I'm seriously surprised that you missed the fact that Leopard is actually the most advanced OS that you can run on a PPC machine. They can run all the way up to 10.5.8. Snow Leopard was the first Intel-only OS X release. So technically PPC users can use an iPhone 4 with their computer with no issues if they bother upgrading to Leopard, there's no reason that they need to buy brand new machines.

I'm seriously surprised that you're seriously surprised! 🙄

 

[Ivan P]

I'm seriously surprised that you're seriously surprised! 🙄

It would've been much more dignified to just admit you were wrong 😀

 

[Mliii]

FWIW, I am currently running Leopard on my 1 gig Titanium G-4. I can sync my iPhone on that machine (but choose not to for other reasons). But I can't upgrade to Snow Leopard (and perform certain non-routine, advanced functions on the iPhone) because that DOES require an Intel processor.

 

[abc123]

Assuming that you didn't upgrade to Leopard when it was released, can you still purchase a copy to do so?

 

[Ivan P]

Assuming that you didn't upgrade to Leopard when it was released, can you still purchase a copy to do so?

Its not available for purchase through retail stores or Apple anymore, but it should be available on ebay for fairly cheap.

 

[djw61]

I recently purchased a new ipod shuffle and a new iphone 4g only to realize I couldn't use them with my itunes and couldn't upgrade because of running tiger. I have a macbook running 10.4 with 1g ram. I went to the local apple store and asked if I could upgrade from tiger to snow leopard (29$)--I was told I had to be running leopard to upgrade to snow leopard--the full set -leopard and snow leopard (100plus). After looking online I purchased the snow leopard only and installed on my macbook and it seems to have worked fine. I now have itunes 10 for my iphone4. I guess they are required to tell you it will not work so you purchase the higher cost upgrade.

 

[Richdmoore]

Yes, if you have an intel mac, no reason to get Leopard, simply get Snow Leopard, it works just fine as a stand alone upgrade. Too bad apple will not just admit that, they want to sell the entire package with iWork and iLife (which some may or may not want.)

The PPC users still need Leopard, as long as the computer is not too old that should work to allow the newest iTunes. The problem is apple doesn't sell Leopard anymore, you have to go to other sources.

The great thing is that there is no "product Keys" or other methods, so if you buy one previously used you don't have to worry that it has already been activated, unlike the other OS......

 

[applebook]

Oh wow, you were almost making sense and then you totally blew it. Apple already devleops for that population, it's call people who own Windows machines. Regardless of that asinine bit of information, it's not a hardware issue. I do own a MBP. That was released in 2006. That came with Tiger installed on it. It ran Tiger like a champ. It runs Leopard like a champ. Yet its the same hardware. You clearly don't need a new mac to run Leopard, which means that there's no hardware reason that the iPhone 4 shouldn't be able to run on any intel Mac. If you had tried to make the argument that Apple isn't going to support people who don't want to pony up $29 to upgrade to SL, you may have had a point, but your hardware argument is both poor and misplaced.

Actually, it is a hardware issue. What I was referring to were PPC Macs, not Intel. Obviously, if you had reasoned properly, you would have inferred that I was talking about PPC hardware because in the very same post, I told the guy to get a used MacBook, any MacBook.

Got an Intel Mac? Upgrade to SL for $30.

Got a PPC Mac? Too bad. Upgrade your old computer before forking over a fortune for a phone.

 

[applebook]

I'm seriously surprised that both of you missed the real problem. Tiger is the most advanced OS you can run on a PPC. Thus, you cannot use an iPhone if you're running a mac from 2005 or earlier. That's only five years for some macs, and there still running. I only retired my 2004 G4 last year. Trust me that others are pissed that there isn't a $30 solution, they have to buy brand new Macs.

As Ivan has already proven you wrong, I will also add that people don't need to buy "brand new Macs" to run SL either. The last time that I checked, any old Intel Mac works, and yes, 2005 is ancient in the computing world. In any event, Apple still supports those old PPC machines to a certain extent. Just upgrade them to the latest Leopard. Done.

 

[MabusTracker]

iMac PPC G5 user

As Ivan has already proven you wrong, I will also add that people don't need to buy "brand new Macs" to run SL either. The last time that I checked, any old Intel Mac works, and yes, 2005 is ancient in the computing world. In any event, Apple still supports those old PPC machines to a certain extent. Just upgrade them to the latest Leopard. Done.

Same case, I just want to buy a newest iPod Touch (4th), but requirement is at least Leopard OS, when I was asking to local Apple stores, their answers are same to look for it in 3rd-party stores at websites, when I checked to the Amazon.com, the cost is >$200 just for Mac Box set (old version/Leopard). I just feel pissed-off by Apple😕.

Any suggestion, please?

 

[Mliii]

Any suggestion, please?

I spent 5 minutes online looking at places like e-bay. etc and found the price range for Leopard from about $70 - $ 160.
As someone else posted, if you have an Intel based Mac, you can get Snow Leopard stand alone instead- a lot less expensive.
If you are on a PPC based Mac, spend some time searching online and get your best price. Check Craigslist as well.

 

[MabusTracker]

I spent 5 minutes online looking at places like e-bay. etc and found the price range for Leopard from about $70 - $ 160.
As someone else posted, if you have an Intel based Mac, you can get Snow Leopard stand alone instead- a lot less expensive.
If you are on a PPC based Mac, spend some time searching online and get your best price. Check Craigslist as well.

Thanks for your info. How can I forget e-bay?😀