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I see none of the iPhone demo units at store with scratches. How convenient you scratched yours by sliding across the table. You might as well use a knife to scratch.
 
that's because the logo is UNDER the glass..which will probably be scratched up soon enough if you don't use a case.

The point is the 3GS was easier to scratch, at least in my case with the Apple logo. The original iPhone wasn't any better with the Apple logo either.

I doubt the glass back would be too scratched up compared to the front, considering I had no noticeable scratches anywhere on the 3GS screen after a year of use. It's either in my pocket or on my hand a vast majority of the time, but time will tell.
 
Am I the only one who left the plastic on the back until a protecter is gotten? Geez, it's not that hard...
 
I've also found a few small scratches, but on the front....

which I honestly cannot believe, because 1. I don't have anything else in that pocket. never any money, coins, metal....nothing.... 2. I have never placed it face down or anything like that.

I am just hoping its the oleophobic coating that is getting scratched, and not the actual iPhone glass. I find it kind of ridiculous it's already scratched, if I could see it with the phone on I would have a problem, but i can only see them at a certain angle in direct light.

I find it kind of funny that apple made us believe that this glass is so strong, sure it can bend without breaking....but it can't be dropped from more than 2 ft without it shattering, or simply be placed in a pocket without scratching....oh well
 
Bottom line is, if you really cared about your phone and scratches you would have had a IS ordered and ready to install when it arrived regardless of what Apple claimed.
 
Plastic or Glass?

Plastic scratches this easily not glass.

The glasstic on the iphone4 does not seem to be as scratch resistant as we thought it was going to be.
I have glass on the back of my digital camera and the crystal on my watch (which gets worn everyday) and they don't get scratched.
From what I have read on the forums it seems that a simple grain of salt on a counter top could cause a minor scratch.

Lesson - If you like it new then you should'a put a skin on it.
 
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I have babied this little f$*$%&$% thing. Never laid it face down, never slid it, always set it down softly, only in a pocket by itself. My 3GS has gone months without the front glass showing the slightest of ANY scratch, scuff, scrape, mark, etc. It is still perfect. I left the back plastic on after hearing all of the stories of scratches on the back, thinking surely the front is at least as good as the 3GS has proven it to be. wtf.

I guess I have to put some s***** screen protector on it now. Sigh.

Have they really replaced the front glass with something inferior to the 3GS while touting on about it as if they've actually improved it? This is pretty bogus.
 
front display scratches easily

I've also found a few small scratches, but on the front....

which I honestly cannot believe, because 1. I don't have anything else in that pocket. never any money, coins, metal....nothing.... 2. I have never placed it face down or anything like that.

I am just hoping its the oleophobic coating that is getting scratched, and not the actual iPhone glass. I find it kind of ridiculous it's already scratched, if I could see it with the phone on I would have a problem, but i can only see them at a certain angle in direct light.

I find it kind of funny that apple made us believe that this glass is so strong, sure it can bend without breaking....but it can't be dropped from more than 2 ft without it shattering, or simply be placed in a pocket without scratching....oh well

Same here. I've kept mine in an otherwise empty pocket and been very careful handling it, but nonetheless, I noticed two thin scratches on the front last night (more visible at certain angles). I can confirm that there are no diamonds in my pocket of which I am unaware. Or gremlins who like to scratch glass. To all of you who say it is very difficult to scratch, I beg to differ. Maybe it's just the oleophobic coating that is prone to showing scratches, and not the gorilla glass itself, but it doesn't make much difference because a scratch is a scratch. I'm awaiting shipping arrival on a screen guard for front and back.

Bottom line is the iPhone 4 front panel will scratch. Rather easily. Yes it will.
 
Would you all quit complaining about the surafaces on the Apple iPhone 4.

Apple Glass is unscratchable, unbreakable, and in all ways invincible, as it was personally designed by Steve Jobs himself. Any complaints must be originated from the dark offices of Nokia, RIM, or Google.

:rolleyes:
 
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PSA

Do not slide your iPhone across anything! Unless it's the palm of your hand without jewelry.

Now back to regular trolling!
 
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I have babied this little f$*$%&$% thing. Never laid it face down, never slid it, always set it down softly, only in a pocket by itself. My 3GS has gone months without the front glass showing the slightest of ANY scratch, scuff, scrape, mark, etc. It is still perfect. I left the back plastic on after hearing all of the stories of scratches on the back, thinking surely the front is at least as good as the 3GS has proven it to be. wtf.

I guess I have to put some s***** screen protector on it now. Sigh.

Have they really replaced the front glass with something inferior to the 3GS while touting on about it as if they've actually improved it? This is pretty bogus.

It looks more like cracked than scratched. I have a hard time believing you got this from normal use.
 
It looks more like cracked than scratched. I have a hard time believing you got this from normal use.

Eh, I don't have much reason to lie..

You may notice from the reflection on the phone and the bright glare on my pants, of all things, that the sun is actually shining directly in through a window onto the phone angled at just the right position to illuminate the scratch.

It is actually smooth to the touch and almost unnoticeable unless viewed in direct light, exactly the same as Engadget mentions.

But for real, its just a scratch. So what. What irritates me is that they changed it. The 3GS glass was perfect, all I could ask for. Use the same material. They downgrade to an inferior material and tout it as if they've made some magical, miraculous improvement?? Whatev.
 
So sick of posts like these...im not targeting you in particular, but just the general level of negativity towards ANYONE with a complaint about an iphone is getting out of hand!!! Like all the people who are devastated about dropping and smashing their brand new phones and come on here to discuss the real-world durability of the front glass and such get so much negative feedback like "Maybe you shouldn't drop your phone." I mean seriously people lighten up a little bit there's no sense in making an unhelpful post thats just straight up rude! Same thing happens with the people who return an iphone 4 and make a post discussing their dislikes about it. They recieve replies such as "k" or "nobody cares." Straight up its uncalled for and theres no need for little pricks to act like children..

Play nice people..

Anyways, I'm sorry you scratched the back of your phone that really does suck, and I think its becoming apparent (at least to me) that the glass on the back is not the same quality as that on the front.

Ok, I apologize. Sorry to the OP, I didn't mean to be as rude as i sounded.

And I have NOTHING against the people who say that their iPhone shattered when they dropped it. They have my sympathy. Why? Because they obviously didn't drop it on purpose. The OP just didn't pick up his iP4 and put it down again, instead, he slid it across the counter; and let's be honest, if you slide it across the counter, you must not be too bothered with scratches, otherwise, you wouldn't slide it. There's nothing wrong with not being bothered about scratches, but if you are, you shouldn't slide it on a hard surface.
 
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I have babied this little f$*$%&$% thing. Never laid it face down, never slid it, always set it down softly, only in a pocket by itself. My 3GS has gone months without the front glass showing the slightest of ANY scratch, scuff, scrape, mark, etc. It is still perfect. I left the back plastic on after hearing all of the stories of scratches on the back, thinking surely the front is at least as good as the 3GS has proven it to be. wtf.

I guess I have to put some s***** screen protector on it now. Sigh.

Have they really replaced the front glass with something inferior to the 3GS while touting on about it as if they've actually improved it? This is pretty bogus.

Dude, I have a scratch that looks exactly the same as that and is only visible when under the right lighting conditions, except mine is where the screen meets the black bezel near the home button.. Have absolutely no idea how it happened - I noticed it a few hours after I took off my invisibleshield (it just wasn't working for me). Never was set face down, pockets always empty...
 
it seems on the pic got scratched with a diamond earing. did your wife borrowed it?
 
So I've been thinking, and the only things that've gotten close enough to the phone that could even remotely pose any potential ability to scratch it is the headphone plug and a rivet on my belt. All too often I have to untangle the earbud cord, while holding the phone in my hand, and the plug could have just flopped onto the screen. Maybe more likely, as I took it out of my pocket it rubbed a rivet. Both of the scenarios involve very low force and unabrasive metals.

But still, the scratch is nonexistent at night, practically invisible during the day, and only visible in direct intense light.

Is this a scratch in the oleophobic treatment and not the glass itself? Has anyone seen any deliberate scratch tests on the iphone 4 screen yet? With keys and sand and other nasty stuff? ifixit says its gorilla glass, and there are plenty of tests showing its scratch resistance, but if the oleophobic treatment gets scratched, wtf is the point? Also, some places are even saying its not gorilla glass at all, and that the front and back aren't the same material..

This seems to be the same thing that was happening with the 3GS when it launched with the intro of the oleophobic treatment.
 
Am I the only one who left the plastic on the back until a protecter is gotten? Geez, it's not that hard...

kept mine until my wrapsol came. phone never even left the house till protection arrived. got the wrapsol, took off the plastic cover, saw two two cm scratches on the back of the iphone. blown. never went in my pocket and was always set on top of a microfiber. maybe it came that way? still, pissed.
 
Seriously, The glass was way over-hyped. How can you not overhype the case of the original iPhone yet you can this one? Mine is all scratched up and I baby the crap out of it and it never slides around anywhere. It's ridiculous. The original iPhone case felt very sturdy and never scratched, great brushed aluminum. So what if it was a little heavier, the iPhone 4 is thin yes but it still feels heavy too.
 
Seriously, The glass was way over-hyped. How can you not overhype the case of the original iPhone yet you can this one? Mine is all scratched up and I baby the crap out of it and it never slides around anywhere. It's ridiculous. The original iPhone case felt very sturdy and never scratched, great brushed aluminum. So what if it was a little heavier, the iPhone 4 is thin yes but it still feels heavy too.

wait, your iphone 4 is all scratched up?
 
Ive had a bumper on the phone since day one and have not had ANY scratches, dropped calls or missed signal. Seriously guys...Just buy the bumper!
 
I treat mine like a new born baby, never put it on anything hard, always lay it down on something soft, barely even TOUCH the glass part on back, yet somehow there was SOMETHING in my pocket hard enough to put a very noticeable ding in the back of my phone. 20 times harder than plastic...not at all. A toy from McDonalds would have lasted longer than this phone in the condition I kept it
 
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