iPhone 4 color sucks vs galaxy s

[Small White Car]

Horrible example. Somebody saying that 15" is larger than 13" is not even close to comparable to here. On the other hand, somebody saying 15" is better than 13". That is when you venture into subjective land.

I have a feeling you didn't really examine the study in question. The charts are quite clear and are based entirely on subjective facts. The study says the iPhone has too little color. It also says the Galaxy has too much color. Then, in this thread we heard from people who prefer one of the screens and from people who prefer the other screen.

So that study IS just like my laptop example. It provided subjective facts and then people expressed their opinions based off of those. Exactly the same thing.

 

[mKTank]

I have a feeling you didn't really examine the study in question. The charts are quite clear and are based entirely on subjective facts. The study says the iPhone has too little color. It also says the Galaxy has too much color. Then, in this thread we heard from people who prefer one of the screens and from people who prefer the other screen.

So that study IS just like my laptop example. It provided subjective facts and then people expressed their opinions based off of those. Exactly the same thing.

It's pretty obvious that the 'expert' preferred the Retina Display.

Why are we arguing over this?

 

[Small White Car]

It's pretty obvious that the 'expert' preferred the Retina Display.

Why are we arguing over this?

Because you keep putting the word 'expert' in quotes without any justification.

Based on your posts you'd think that author is an Apple shill. So how do you explain the fact that they gave the Samsung their "Best New Mobile Display Technology Award?"

And what about the fact that their most subjective rating, their assigning of colors to the viewing tests, gives both the Galaxy and the iPhone 4 the same exact color rating?

Mostly I'm annoyed because I appreciate the type of research they've done and I see a report written by someone who likes the iPhone 4 and the Samsung Galaxy. They seem to appreciate both phones.

So for you to act like the results are biased as if he's an Apple spokesperson is unfounded and annoying to me since it influences the other posters here who are too lazy to read the thing all the way through. There's plenty of evidence that they liked both displays for different reasons.

 

[darkplanets]

Color, in all of its glory, is highly relative. The way we interpret color and intensities varies from person to person based on their genetic makeup...display resolution however, is not, but that isn't the primary argument here.

While the studies are subjective, you cannot for one second say that DisplayMate's review is either intentionally outwardly biased or unfair, and the fact that you tried to call into question the expertise of said reviewer is almost laughable. Is their statistical method (or lack thereof) shoddy? Yes. Should they have gotten a representative sample and performed a statistical analysis (ANOVA, etc)? Yes-- but under no circumstances does that call into question the credibility of the reviewer.

The pentile matrix is actually a handicap; it decreases the relative "sharpness," although again that isn't what is in question here-- the problem is that you're trying to compare relatives. As far as I'm concerned neither did great-- the Droid has the best screen for color reproducibility, accuracy, and contrast however, possibly lending towards my personal conclusion that IPS LCD screens are still the preferable tech-- for now.

"Color" (per the OP's title) is really all relative though, so this entire thread's existence is really moot.

 

[mKTank]

Color, in all of its glory, is highly relative. The way we interpret color and intensities varies from person to person based on their genetic makeup...display resolution however, is not, but that isn't the primary argument here.

While the studies are subjective, you cannot for one second say that DisplayMate's review is either intentionally outwardly biased or unfair, and the fact that you tried to call into question the expertise of said reviewer is almost laughable. Is their statistical method (or lack thereof) shoddy? Yes. Should they have gotten a representative sample and performed a statistical analysis (ANOVA, etc)? Yes-- but under no circumstances does that call into question the credibility of the reviewer.

The pentile matrix is actually a handicap; it decreases the relative "sharpness," although again that isn't what is in question here-- the problem is that you're trying to compare relatives. As far as I'm concerned neither did great-- the Droid has the best screen for color reproducibility, accuracy, and contrast however, possibly lending towards my personal conclusion that IPS LCD screens are still the preferable tech-- for now.

"Color" (per the OP's title) is really all relative though, so this entire thread's existence is really moot.

I don't know why Sammy doesn't just get rid of Pentile Matrix. If they did, there wouldn't be much reason to pick a Retina Display over a SAMOLED. That said, even with the Pentile Matrix, I do prefer the SAMOLED to the Retina Display just for the rich colors, contrast, viewing angles, outdoor visibility, etc. I think the SAMOLED has more pros than the Retina Display which is why I think it's more suited for a mobile phone.

 

[Infraggable Kru]

While the studies are subjective, you cannot for one second say that DisplayMate's review is either intentionally outwardly biased or unfair, and the fact that you tried to call into question the expertise of said reviewer is almost laughable. Is their statistical method (or lack thereof) shoddy? Yes. Should they have gotten a representative sample and performed a statistical analysis (ANOVA, etc)? Yes-- but under no circumstances does that call into question the credibility of the reviewer.

Exactly, especially when its a non-expert trying to discredit it

It would be like a med student trying to discredit a psychiatrist's mental assessment of a patient because its "subjective".

 

[redbeard331]

I have checked out the Samsung screen and it only looks to beat the iPhione in one area, and that's overall brightness.

And viewing angles? Seriously? The screen on the iPhone 4 can be viewed from an almost direct 90 degree angle and not lose anything which makes me wonder if you've actually tried one out? It's almost like looking at a printed picture from an angle, it just does not wash out or become invisible like many other displays. So there is no way any phone could beat it in viewing angles since there's no room for improvement in that department.

And the colors and outdoor visibility look incredible to my eyes.

There's several things you can fault the iP4 for, but they are mostly software related, like the terrible notification system, the forgotten weather and calendar apps, lack of any way to reply to texts without exiting whatever you;'re doing (without jailbreaking). But damn, the screen is just not one of them, overall it's the best you can get, could they improve it further? Sure they could, but I'd rather they work on fixing what's broke, not what's right.

 

[mKTank]

I have checked out the Samsung screen and it only looks to beat the iPhione in one area, and that's overall brightness.

And viewing angles? Seriously? The screen on the iPhone 4 can be viewed from an almost direct 90 degree angle and not lose anything which makes me wonder if you've actually tried one out? It's almost like looking at a printed picture from an angle, it just does not wash out or become invisible like many other displays. So there is no way any phone could beat it in viewing angles since there's no room for improvement in that department.

And the colors and outdoor visibility look incredible to my eyes.

There's several things you can fault the iP4 for, but they are mostly software related, like the terrible notification system, the forgotten weather and calendar apps, lack of any way to reply to texts without exiting whatever you;'re doing (without jailbreaking). But damn, the screen is just not one of them, overall it's the best you can get, could they improve it further? Sure they could, but I'd rather they work on fixing what's broke, not what's right.

According to this 'expert' that's frequently referred to, the SAMOLED indeed has better viewing angles.

And yes I know what the viewing angles on an iPhone 4 is like, I own one.

 

[applebook]

I have checked out the Samsung screen and it only looks to beat the iPhione in one area, and that's overall brightness.

The iP4's screen is one of the brightest there is. It's actually too bright at max settings, unless viewed outdoors.

The Galaxy S is only 365 cd/m2, while the iPhone is around 550.

DisplayMate's article (http://www.displaymate.com/Smartphone_ShootOut_1.htm) notes that OLED screens have virtually unlimited viewing angles, while the viewing angles of the iP4 are actually quite small for an IPS display. The Droid's angles are even lower, but this probably caused by the overly reflective Gorilla glass overlay. However, who really cares about viewing angles on a 3.5-inch display? How often are you looking at the screen from more than a 15 degree angle?

Viewing angles really matter for larger TVs --this is where plasma (and in about 5 years, OLED) trounce LCD. Brightness, color accuracy, and image sharpness all favor LCD at this point.

 

[annk]

This thread required a fair amount of clean-up yesterday and today both. The discussion can continue if all involved can keep a civil tone. Posts that are removed or edited are done so for a reason, and referring to them once they've been removed is not acceptable.

Carry on...