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iPhone 4 iOS 5 BB 4.11.08 Unlock

Stuck in the exact same boat as most people - bought two 32g iPhone 4'S FOR $50 a piece (making it a cheap iPod touch, haha) but didn't notice that they had all had the upgraded firmware until I was back in China...

Wish I could sell it, but no one in China would be able to use a completely broken iPhone 4.

Other option is to pay $850 USD for a 16gig factory unlocked.

I'll pass on that...
 
My point is that all the fuss about trying to making jail breaking illegal will soon end if hacker's cannot unlock this baseband. Sure, they may not be working on this break, but shows that the Apple programmers are in fact superior. This defeats the reason for hacking.

If you can't hack it, then you are forced or "have to" go along with status quo...

This takes the fun out of hacking, so it needs to be hacked.


If Apple has found a way it can stop unlocking, we will be forced to buy an unlocked phone for the outrageous price if you want to use another carrier. Apple then becomes or has already became the "New IBM".
 
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loby said:
My point is that all the fuss about trying to making jail breaking illegal will soon end if hacker's cannot unlock this baseband. Sure, they may not be working on this break, but shows that the Apple programmers are in fact superior. This defeats the reason for hacking.

If you can't hack it, then you are forced or "have to" go along with status quo...

This takes the fun out of hacking, so it needs to be hacked.


If Apple has found a way it can stop unlocking, we will be forced to buy an unlocked phone for the outrageous price if you want to use another carrier. Apple then becomes or has already became the "New IBM".
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Lol wtfs? Why would they stop hacking? If anything the iPhone 4 is old technology, Musclenerd said he was trying to unlock 4S phones. 4.11.08 unlocks have nothing to do with Dev teams stopping jailbreaks or hacking.
 
It is not about the iPhone 4 being old, for the 4s can also be on 04.11.08 baseband.

What I am referring to is "if" the 04.11.08 is indeed unlock-able, then eventually this would halt jail breaking because you have to unlock the devices first or the jail break is useless (if I am understanding jail breaking correctly).

This gives a message to Apple that they have finally found a way to keep baseband's locked and keep their desired technology closed. Basically they have won....

What I am saying is that even though the dev. team may not be working on this break, they need to break this baseband regardless if it is "old" or they believe it is not worth the time. If anyone does not break this baseband, it gives a message that Apple and other companies have found a code the Dev. team(s) cannot break.

Apple (and other companies) benefits from the hacking community, for it is a good testing ground (free) for their security and developing technologies. If we do not hack everything that comes down the pipe, or break it just for the sake of breaking it, we could be in the long run shooting ourselves in the foot.
 
SgtP3pp3r said:
No offense, but the world is much bigger than the US, and outside the US factory unlocks are horribly over priced.

Anyway,

A software unlock might seem a ways off, but according to some sources (Aplenberry) a new gevey sim is coming out soon to address this baseband.
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The US factory unlocked phones took the longest to become available. It is OUTSIDE the US where unlocks are more readily available.

"horribly over priced?" Are you saying the US factory unlocks are cheap? How much are you talking about for the non-us factory unlocked phones?
 
loby said:
It is not about the iPhone 4 being old, for the 4s can also be on 04.11.08 baseband.

What I am referring to is "if" the 04.11.08 is indeed unlock-able, then eventually this would halt jail breaking because you have to unlock the devices first or the jail break is useless (if I am understanding jail breaking correctly).

This gives a message to Apple that they have finally found a way to keep baseband's locked and keep their desired technology closed. Basically they have won....

What I am saying is that even though the dev. team may not be working on this break, they need to break this baseband regardless if it is "old" or they believe it is not worth the time. If anyone does not break this baseband, it gives a message that Apple and other companies have found a code the Dev. team(s) cannot break.

Apple (and other companies) benefits from the hacking community, for it is a good testing ground (free) for their security and developing technologies. If we do not hack everything that comes down the pipe, or break it just for the sake of breaking it, we could be in the long run shooting ourselves in the foot.
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You have no idea what you are talking about. Stopped reading after the red bold.
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Yes, my error on the 4.08.11 - not on the 4S. Valid picture of Cap. P. :)

But what I said after is valid...
 
loby said:
It is not about the iPhone 4 being old, for the 4s can also be on 04.11.08 baseband.

What I am referring to is "if" the 04.11.08 is indeed unlock-able, then eventually this would halt jail breaking because you have to unlock the devices first or the jail break is useless (if I am understanding jail breaking correctly).

This gives a message to Apple that they have finally found a way to keep baseband's locked and keep their desired technology closed. Basically they have won....

What I am saying is that even though the dev. team may not be working on this break, they need to break this baseband regardless if it is "old" or they believe it is not worth the time. If anyone does not break this baseband, it gives a message that Apple and other companies have found a code the Dev. team(s) cannot break.

Apple (and other companies) benefits from the hacking community, for it is a good testing ground (free) for their security and developing technologies. If we do not hack everything that comes down the pipe, or break it just for the sake of breaking it, we could be in the long run shooting ourselves in the foot.
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I think what loby is trying to point out is that, if somehow locked baseband's like 04.11.08 remains locked and a unlock (God Forbid) is never found. People would end up buying Unlocked iPhone's which cost more. And the point of Jailbreaking just for the Carrier Unlock would cease. Which is true. From my very first iPhone 2G to the 4, I began Jailbreaking just for the Carrier Unlock, and throughout the years fell in love with the tweaks and Apps that came through Cydia. But would i stop Jailbreaking? Nope. But it all began when all i wanted was a Simple Carrier Unlock that i could only achieve through Jailbreaking. Even I'm planning to get myself a Factory Unlocked iPhone 4S, as i don't see a Unlock coming out anytime soon.
 
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mphilip said:
I think what loby is trying to point out is that, if somehow locked baseband's like 04.11.08 remains locked and a unlock (God Forbid) is never found. People would end up buying Unlocked iPhone's which cost more. And the point of Jailbreaking just for the Carrier Unlock would cease. Which is true. From my very first iPhone 2G to the 4, I began Jailbreaking just for the Carrier Unlock, and throughout the years fell in love with the tweaks and Apps that came through Cydia. But would i stop Jailbreaking? Nope. But it all began when all i wanted was a Simple Carrier Unlock that i could only achieve through Jailbreaking. Even I'm planning to get myself a Factory Unlocked iPhone 4S, as i don't see a Unlock coming out anytime soon.
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I'm struggling with this one - I really hope they do figure out how to unlock this baseband.

The question I've had for a while is what makes this baseband so much harder to unlock than all the others? I know I'm speaking out of extreme ignorance, but I'd like a little more background :)

I'm in the boat of needing to wait as well - I could get a factory unlocked phone here with a two year plan for $900+ usd. Since I paid $100 total for two iPhone 4's, I think it's just a waiting game for me.
 
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Arisian said:
I'm struggling with this one - I really hope they do figure out how to unlock this baseband.

The question I've had for a while is what makes this baseband so much harder to unlock than all the others? I know I'm speaking out of extreme ignorance, but I'd like a little more background :)

I'm in the boat of needing to wait as well - I could get a factory unlocked phone here with a two year plan for $900+ usd. Since I paid $100 total for two iPhone 4's, I think it's just a waiting game for me.
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Let's keep our finger's crossed Arisian, that they do find a way to unlock this baseband. There's just so many people out there waking up each day and looking at their locked iPhones, hoping for a miracle. I have been following Sherif Hashim on twitter : http://twitter.com/sherif_hashim , tho he didn't respond to my question. He has some tweets that gave the answer and shows some hope in unlocking 04.11.08 ...
 
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I spoke to a rep at applenberry and he said he hopes and thinks that they might have the gevey sim for base band 4.11.08 by mid to late February. But as allwyas there are no guarantees!
 
I just can't believe they finally got a baseband that can't be hacked. I'm disappointed Hackers, lol j/k
 
AT & T unlock

I'm in the UK and have bought a AT &T locked iPhone 4 on 04.08.11 baseband, they tell me that they can't unlock my phone. The UK networks will unlock from their networks for a small charge which I wouldn't mind paying as there is no other way around this, yet.

noiceT said:
The past may have been different, but nowadays unlocks will always be last on the list. There just isn't enough reason to put so much effort into creating a software unlock, when:

1. Factory unlocks are now readily available

2. 3 out of the 4 major carriers have the iphone (US)
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maturola said:
Time travel and teletransportation are "theoretically possible" and proven, believe me Unlocking 4.11.08 is "theoretically possible". Will you or me see it on our life time!....... nobody knows.
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Regarding teleportation, Heisenberg says no.
 
Cakeben said:
I'm in the UK and have bought a AT &T locked iPhone 4 on 04.08.11 baseband, they tell me that they can't unlock my phone. The UK networks will unlock from their networks for a small charge which I wouldn't mind paying as there is no other way around this, yet.
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It's not that they can't, it's that they won't. Unlocks are carrier locks. That's the whole point. The phones don't come out of Apple "locked". The phones that apple makes are all the same; its the carriers that lock it to their network.
 
noiceT said:
It's not that they can't, it's that they won't. Unlocks are carrier locks. That's the whole point. The phones don't come out of Apple "locked". The phones that apple makes are all the same; its the carriers that lock it to their network.
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Wrong. Apple locks it for the carrier.

Ever order an iPhone online? it comes from China. More specifically, it comes from Foxconn or another one of Apple's assembly partners. I don't think that AT&T, Verizon or Sprint have distribution centers in China.

Thus, when an unlock is released by way of Gevey or dev team, it will likely work for all versions of the iphone.
 
saud0488 said:
Wrong. Apple locks it for the carrier.

Ever order an iPhone online? it comes from China. More specifically, it comes from Foxconn or another one of Apple's assembly partners. I don't think that AT&T, Verizon or Sprint have distribution centers in China.

Thus, when an unlock is released by way of Gevey or dev team, it will likely work for all versions of the iphone.
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Sigh...lol. I think you misunderstood what I was trying to say. Of course the phones are locked to a specific carrier when you buy them. That's why when you buy them, you must specify your carrier. What I'm trying to say is that all the iphones all over the world are the same, just locked to that specific carrier; where they DO the ACTUAL locking of the baseband procedure...? I have no freakin' clue. Maybe you can investigate that, and get back to us.

And what does ordering online and China have to do with anything? :confused: Are you saying only online orders come from China? Where do the in-store purchases come? Hawaii maybe? :p
 
noiceT said:
Sigh...lol. I think you misunderstood what I was trying to say. Of course the phones are locked to a specific carrier when you buy them. That's why when you buy them, you must specify your carrier. What I'm trying to say is that all the iphones all over the world are the same, just locked to that specific carrier; where they DO the ACTUAL locking of the baseband procedure...? I have no freakin' clue. Maybe you can investigate that, and get back to us.

And what does ordering online and China have to do with anything? :confused: Are you saying only online orders come from China? Where do the in-store purchases come? Hawaii maybe? :p
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So you are suggesting that as soon as you register it, it becomes locked to the carrier?

I've read both of your posts twice, and I'm not trying to be a big jerk, but it's pretty unclear as to what you are actually trying to say.

Care to clarify?

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To the other guy saying that there is a carrier in the UK that will unlock your originally AT&T iPhone to use on their network... that sounds questionable. Never heard of that.

In all cases, I'm welcome to be wrong!

Cheers,
B
 
noiceT said:
Sigh...lol. I think you misunderstood what I was trying to say. Of course the phones are locked to a specific carrier when you buy them. That's why when you buy them, you must specify your carrier. What I'm trying to say is that all the iphones all over the world are the same, just locked to that specific carrier; where they DO the ACTUAL locking of the baseband procedure...? I have no freakin' clue. Maybe you can investigate that, and get back to us.

And what does ordering online and China have to do with anything? :confused: Are you saying only online orders come from China? Where do the in-store purchases come? Hawaii maybe? :p
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Yeah not sure what you're trying to say either. It's clear that the iPhone is locked from when Apple ships it. You specify you're carrier so that they give you the right one. The baseband is locked from when it leaves the factory.
 
Let's make this easy - if it doesn't come from the dev team or they don't endorse it, there is a 99.9999% chance that it's fake or a scam.

Beyond that, I'm not sure how patching redsn0w would do anything to help that BB...
 
Arisian said:
Let's make this easy - if it doesn't come from the dev team or they don't endorse it, there is a 99.9999% chance that it's fake or a scam.

Beyond that, I'm not sure how patching redsn0w would do anything to help that BB...
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Let's make it even easier: If they come out and recognize it, then it's probably real. Like they did with the Gevey SIM last year and called it illegal and such because someone beat them to it.
 
saud0488 said:
Let's make it even easier: If they come out and recognize it, then it's probably real. Like they did with the Gevey SIM last year and called it illegal and such because someone beat them to it.
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Close - but the dev team has indeed 'recognized' many things (or people) who are scams and fraudulent.
 
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