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iPhone 4 or iPhone 5

I know, they're very open about wiping the phone.

I support servers and applications for my work and the monitoring software that monitors both sends out notifications that something's wrong. I live and die by my email. I hate blackberry and I don't want to deal with two phones, so that leaves using a single smartphone that they can remote wipe.

Because I work for a hospital, they are very zealous about protecting data, and so this encryption step for smartphones is not a surprise, heck, I thought they were already doing this.

They enforced a complete 100% hard disk encryption for any laptop that connects to the network, be it a home laptop, the hospital's or a contractor's. We're a mixed mac/pc shop so there's a couple of solutions for me, like using filevault.

The iPhone looks to me like my only alternative, the key issue, is when they flip the switch and what can I do to delay the purchase of a new iPhone until the IP5 becomes available. That delay also means fighting my instant gratification need as well :D
 
I'm looking to buy the iPhone 4 soon, I'm actually just waiting for them to announce something in January. From what I hear all Apple has in store is a white iPhone 4 and a Verizon release which might be nice since they will probably offer unlimited data w/ better reception.
 
VZW unlimited data plan is an endangered species. They've already stated that they're heading towards a tiered system.
 
iseebird said:
I'm looking to buy the iPhone 4 soon, I'm actually just waiting for them to announce something in January. From what I hear all Apple has in store is a white iPhone 4 and a Verizon release which might be nice since they will probably offer unlimited data w/ better reception.
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I think Apple will have the final say in what Verizon offers with regards to the iPhone and it's data plan.
 
Even if Verizon gets iphone 4, I could care less...

Verizon CDMA network cannot support Voice and Data together at the same time. Verizon 3G speed is not still as fast as AT&T's 3G network. Verizon might have better coverages in certain areas like NYC, DC, San francisco, but I don't live there. It will have to be a miracle for me to go back to Verizon. I hate them more than anything else in this world. They are evil.
 
iseebird said:
why would Apple have a say about a carriers plans???
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Because apple iPhone is not just any ordinary phone. They sell millions and millions. They can ask for more such as better plans for customer and less controls from carriers.
 
eNcrypTioN said:
Because from what I understand (I could be wrong) I think Apple had a say in the price points that AT&T set for the iPhone.
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That hasn't been true since the original iPhone. The original iPhone plan had unlimited data and 200 text messages for $20 /mo., wasn't subsidized, and Apple received a cut of the monthly wireless fees.

With the launch of the 3G, they went with the standard subsidy model just like any other phone.
 
Eso said:
That hasn't been true since the original iPhone. The original iPhone plan had unlimited data and 200 text messages for $20 /mo., wasn't subsidized, and Apple received a cut of the monthly wireless fees.

With the launch of the 3G, they went with the standard subsidy model just like any other phone.
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I was unaware of this. Thanks for the correction, you learn something new everyday.
 
If you can take the agonizing pain of waiting then you wait for an iphone 5 oh wait! When iphone 6 comes out it will be better and so on. If you need a phone now get the ip4 if not then wait. If you have lots of money buy ip4 now and when ip5 comes out or whatever they call it, buy that too ;)
 
It depends on when your contract is up. I wouldn't want to lock up a 2 year contract right now, as you will have to wait 6 months after a new iPhone release to get it at subsidized price. I would get a used 3GS on eBay or CL. They should run you at around 200 bucks and sell it when iPhone 5 comes out.
 
your iphone problem

i think you should be call apple staff and ask about them.
:D

Hope your problem can solve as soon as possible.
:)
 
your iphone problem

i think you should be call apple staff and ask about them.
:D

Hope your problem can solve as soon as possible.
:)
 
dude, i had a 3g and just got an iphone 4 this xmas... couldn't be happier! my 3g was annoying the $*!t out of me with how slow and unresponsive it had become.

get an iphone 4. multitasking rocks! hi rez screen, facetime.. better design all around.

it'll be like five months until the next iphone comes out, and that's a pretty long time to wait when you're annoyed by your phone every day. i say go ahead and upgrade to iphone 4 - you won't regret it.
 
fortunecookie said:
If you can take the agonizing pain of waiting then you wait for an iphone 5 oh wait! When iphone 6 comes out it will be better and so on. If you need a phone now get the ip4 if not then wait. If you have lots of money buy ip4 now and when ip5 comes out or whatever they call it, buy that too ;)
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In sense, you can get yourself into a cycle of waiting for the next best thing since a new iPhone will always be just around the corner. I'm looking to wait, but it all depends on when my company implements the policy. The longer they delay the more likely I'll be able to stick it out and wait for the IP5.
 
Hello maflynn. I see you're in a bit of a predicament... well, as it turns out, I'm in a similar bind, but for a completely different reason - my current phone (which isn't terribly "smart" compared to more recent smartphones) has broken. It hasn't outright failed yet... but since the screen is cracked it may not be much longer before I am forced to replace it. An iPhone looks like the most logical replacement choice, but... given the iPhone 4's various issues I'm very tempted to just wait for either a Verizon iPhone or the iPhone 5. So, with all that said... what's my best course of action?

EDIT: Forgot to mention that my contract with T-Mobile has long since expired, so switching carriers won't be a problem.
 
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Well the advice falls into three categories on this thread and the majority seem to be siding with waiting.

The options are (in no particular order)
1. Buy now and enjoy it.
2. Buy a 3Gs off ebay/craigslist and wait for the IP5
3. Wait and save your money.

To be honest, while I like option 2, I'm not sure I'll want a 3Gs when the IP4 has so many advantages over the 3Gs. So for me that leaves option 1 which satisfies my need for instant gratification, but option 3 makes the most sense.

While I want instant gratification, I'm leaning in that direction. I'm waiting for another company email further detailing the group policy requirement/change they're implementing.
 
I actually got impatient on waiting so I decided to go and get the iPhone 4 today. I feel like there's always going to be an upgrade every year so enjoy it now!

I did have a question though, I heard that you can upgrade your iPhone after 6 months but how much discount will you get or will you have to pay full price?

Thanks.
 
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