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iPhone 4S. Announced on Monday, released in September?

antster94

antster94

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Has anyone considered the iPhone 4S being announced on Monday and released in September? Surely that would be smart as to make something for people to look forward to, and stop a lot of people being tempted by Android devices such as the SGS2.

Not saying it's going to happen, it would be a smart move on Apple's part in my opinion though.

EDIT: (adding reasoning from my later post) I don't see why it's unlikely. In the UK, where I live, the iPad 1 price dropped significantly, about 20% cheaper, after it had been released earlier in the USA. This presumably helped to relieve stocks of it whilst gaining market share from the Xoom etc due to lower pricing.

And this is Apple we are talking about. They like to make a surprise. Think back to WWDC '10, "you think you've seen the iPhone 4, but you haven't seen anything yet". They combated all the negative hype very well.

Also, think about the other phones that were available this time last year. Barely any stood a chance against any iPhone. However, this time round, their is a myriad of competitive devices. The Galaxy S2 is selling very well, 1000000 handsets sold in Korea alone. I think Apple realise this and know they have to get their act together and pull out all the stops this summer, otherwise their market share will decrease.
 
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They would only announce it next week if it were coming out in it's normal June/July timeframe.
 
ECUpirate44 said:
Why? So iPhone 4 sales can go down the tube for the next 3 months?
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Most people would know that next generation iphone is coming out at september at the latest, however Apple revealing this information would keep potential iphone buyers from converting to android's thunderbolt, galaxy ,atrix because of the uncertainty with waiting.

Any iphone released past september is just bad business, android has shown it will takeover and with out Apple to combat it, android will overflow the industry.
 
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Your assuming that "most" of people are like us and read these tech sites. Fact is most people don't and only buy when they need a phone
 
I highly doubt it because of the pre-announcement for WWDC. Apple's never done that before and one of the theories is that it's to lessen the disappointment when they don't announce the new iPhone since people are now expecting to hear about Lion, iOS 5 and iCloud. It's possible that the new iPhone announcement will be "One More Thing" but I just don't think that makes sense.
 
L I G H T I N G said:
Most people would know that next generation iphone is coming out at september at the latest.
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The vast majority of people just walk into the Apple Store and buy whatever is there without researching or giving a darn when the next generation is coming out.
 
I can maybe see them dropping the price of the iPhone 4 about 50 dollars. But it's unlikely.
 
LoganT said:
I can maybe see them dropping the price of the iPhone 4 about 50 dollars. But it's unlikely.
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(just added this to my opening post)

I don't see why it's unlikely. In the UK, where I live, the iPad 1 price dropped significantly, about 20% cheaper, after it had been released earlier in the USA. This presumably helped to relieve stocks of it whilst gaining market share from the Xoom etc due to lower pricing.

And this is Apple we are talking about. They like to make a surprise. Think back to WWDC '10, "you think you've seen the iPhone 4, but you haven't seen anything yet". They combated all the negative hype very well.

Also, think about the other phones that were available this time last year. Barely any stood a chance against any iPhone. However, this time round, their is a myriad of competitive devices. The Galaxy S2 is selling very well, 1000000 handsets sold in Korea alone. I think Apple realise this and know they have to get their act together and pull out all the stops this summer, otherwise their market share will decrease.
 
I doubt Apple will considering they have only recently brought out the white iPhone 4, as they won't want to screw over consumers who have just bought one. I think the iOS 5 reveal will be enough to keep many consumers away from Android.
 
nwc12345 said:
I doubt Apple will considering they have only recently brought out the white iPhone 4, as they won't want to screw over consumers who have just bought one. I think the iOS 5 reveal will be enough to keep many consumers away from Android.
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Technology companies release products in new colours all the time. Those customers that bought either the white iPhone or Verizon iPhone wont be screwed over in any different way to an owner of an "original" black iPhone 4, same hardware, just a different colour.

And in response to the iOS5 reveal, I doubt that the majority of consumers won't care about that or even realise what it means. If they put "iOS5. Coming soon." as the wallpaper on apple.com, this will prove that it will run on the iPhone 4 as it makes no sense to advertise something that isn't going to work with their current device, thus the average consumer thinks "oh cool, looks good" as opposed to "ah I really should wait for the iPhone 5". Sure, some people will wait for the iPhone 4S/5 to get iOS5, but I doubt that will be a significant proportion of Android sales lossed.
 
Apple isn't as worried about Android as you think. It is takes the combined sales of several Android phones to compete with Apples latest phone. Also the combined Android pad sales are no where close to Ipad or Ipad 2.
 
labman said:
Apple isn't as worried about Android as you think. It is takes the combined sales of several Android phones to compete with Apples latest phone. Also the combined Android pad sales are no where close to Ipad or Ipad 2.
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And there are several devices coming out that are challenging Apple's market share. HTC Sensation, EVO 3D, Galaxy S2, Sony Xperia handsets, and many more. I believe they are worried but cover it up in order to look "elite", like nothing can touch them. But Android is growing very fast and is now a mature platform. Some market share may be lost by leaving the phone announcement to September, as would attention and hype over iPhones.
 
This is stupid. If you follow the rumor sites and even Apple's own announcements, there will be no hardware announcements at WWDC. It is going to be iOS 5, Lion, and iCloud.

If they were going to announce a new phone they wouldn't tell the press no new hardware.

Dumb conjecture given that we have a lot of valid info saying otherwise.
 
gks said:
This is stupid. If you follow the rumor sites and even Apple's own announcements, there will be no hardware announcements at WWDC. It is going to be iOS 5, Lion, and iCloud.

If they were going to announce a new phone they wouldn't tell the press no new hardware.

Dumb conjecture given that we have a lot of valid info saying otherwise.
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It's possible. It could be the "one more thing".

If anyone cares, I just asked soldierknowsbest about this in his live stream and he says it's very plausible. His gut instinct is that it'll be announced next week and released in July.
 
antster94 said:
(just added this to my opening post)

I don't see why it's unlikely. In the UK, where I live, the iPad 1 price dropped significantly, about 20% cheaper, after it had been released earlier in the USA. This presumably helped to relieve stocks of it whilst gaining market share from the Xoom etc due to lower pricing.

And this is Apple we are talking about. They like to make a surprise. Think back to WWDC '10, "you think you've seen the iPhone 4, but you haven't seen anything yet". They combated all the negative hype very well.

Also, think about the other phones that were available this time last year. Barely any stood a chance against any iPhone. However, this time round, their is a myriad of competitive devices. The Galaxy S2 is selling very well, 1000000 handsets sold in Korea alone. I think Apple realise this and know they have to get their act together and pull out all the stops this summer, otherwise their market share will decrease.
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I actually don't think it's unlikely. I just say that so people don't jump down my throat telling me "Apple would nevvvvver do that!".
 
antster94 said:
It's possible. It could be the "one more thing".

If anyone cares, I just asked soldierknowsbest about this in his live stream and he says it's very plausible. His gut instinct is that it'll be announced next week and released in July.
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soldier no longer knows best.
 
antster94 said:
It's possible. It could be the "one more thing".

If anyone cares, I just asked soldierknowsbest about this in his live stream and he says it's very plausible. His gut instinct is that it'll be announced next week and released in July.
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Yet again, Apple has said NO NEW HARDWARE. why would they say no new hardware then say "oh yea, here's this new iPhone" ?

It will not happen. Stop.
 
antster94 said:
And there are several devices coming out that are challenging Apple's market share. HTC Sensation, EVO 3D, Galaxy S2, Sony Xperia handsets, and many more. I believe they are worried but cover it up in order to look "elite", like nothing can touch them. But Android is growing very fast and is now a mature platform. Some market share may be lost by leaving the phone announcement to September, as would attention and hype over iPhones.
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Thank you for sharing your theory. I feel smarter having heard it. I still say no new iPhone at WWDC soon but not yet. I am going with fall like most predictions.
 
gks said:
Yet again, Apple has said NO NEW HARDWARE. why would they say no new hardware then say "oh yea, here's this new iPhone" ?

It will not happen. Stop.
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It was just an idea and I'm justifying it in this thread. I see no reasons why they wouldn't, this is macrumors after all. I guess we may as well wait until Monday and see what happens.
 
gks said:
Yet again, Apple has said NO NEW HARDWARE. why would they say no new hardware then say "oh yea, here's this new iPhone" ?

It will not happen. Stop.
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Apple has officially and specifically said that there will be no hardware at WWDC?
 
antster94 said:
It was just an idea and I'm justifying it in this thread. I see no reasons why they wouldn't, this is macrumors after all. I guess we may as well wait until Monday and see what happens.
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As I said in another thread, there is a theory that Apple pre-announced what would be talked about at the keynote at WWDC (they've never done this before) to lessen the disappointment and stock drop when the new iPhone isn't announced.

Of course, anything is possible but I think that theory explains pretty well why they made the pre-announcement.
 
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