Hi there!
Why is the iPadd faster?
Because the they don't underclock the processor on the ipad like they do the iphone. This is likely because the ipad has a much bigger battery so they don't need to slow the processor down to get good battery life.
Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
iPhone 4S Geekbench Benchmarks ~68% Faster than iPhone 4
- Thread starter MacRumors
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
Because the they don't underclock the processor on the ipad like they do the iphone. This is likely because the ipad has a much bigger battery so they don't need to slow the processor down to get good battery life.
I don't think Down and Up ranking has any incidence on my physical person, so feel free to downrank me all you want. I don't quite give it the weight you seem to give.
I only ever rarely use it for truely awful posts or for mis-ranked posts myself.
Absurd comparison. All phones now use the same architecture - it's ARM. There are different generations of ARM architecture but most current phones use ARM Cortex-A9 architecture. So the clock does matter a lot. There are other factors (like bus performance) which affect CPU performance but the clock is a major one.
You seem to be very fixated on tech specs as some sort proof of I don't know what. The bigger effect is how the software runs on the hardware. I will take optimized OS software over lazy programmed OS that requires a faster processor to achieve the same results. I think you are not factoring in battery life. It is a balancing act that has to be figured out to give the user the best experience.
AMD and Intel both run x64 and x86. but depending on the application and the CPU they run it at different speeds. for a while AMD was smoking Intel performance wise while running at half the GHz
The difference is AMD and Intel don't share their designs with each other, only the architecture and instruction set. However, the Cortex A9 design is being shared, even if somewhat altered by implementors.
Clock speed is much closer in the case of these SoCs than it is in the case of any other CPU comparisons people will come up with. How much so would require proper benchmarking tools to verify.
In the case of ARM Cortex A9 it appears that the biggest difference is speed of RAM used and GPU.
used to have a 3GS and have a droid pro from work now. 3GS had 128MB RAM and droid pro has 384MB. the 3GS was a lot more powerful and snappy than my droid pro.
i've noticed that iOS can run on par with android with 1/3 - 1/2 the RAM
----------
not always true. qualcomm has it's own design even though it implements the instruction set. not sure of OMAP or nvidia.
slashdot even linked to an article where someone complained about all the different ARM CPU's and how each one had it's quirks and had to be coded for individually.
Huh. The thing gets ~the same score as this Beige G3 XD Course, it's memory is a lot faster... anyway...
Oddly, all the reported clockspeeds of the iP4S's are different, but they all have nearly the same score.. http://browse.geekbench.ca/geekbench2/search?q=iphone4,1
Misuse of the word "literally" this flagrant ought to be punishable by imprisonment..
Oddly, all the reported clockspeeds of the iP4S's are different, but they all have nearly the same score.. http://browse.geekbench.ca/geekbench2/search?q=iphone4,1
Literally dying to get my hands on one. Should be here by Friday
Misuse of the word "literally" this flagrant ought to be punishable by imprisonment..
I don't have any problem with the software benchmarks. They do tell a story, just not the whole story.Do the other designs contain the RAM in the same package like the A9?
Looking at the design of the Exynos, it seems not :
Now, I'm not digging through every SoC design, but this is precisely the things that we do not have benchmarks for. While all these SoCs are now based on the Cortex A9 design/architecture, each implementor has a few particularities where it would be interesting to see if which set of optimizations are better.
Unfortunately, we don't have the benchmarks here (raw integer calculations, raw floating point operations, memory transfers, etc...) to compare SoC in their entirety. What we have is a Javascript engine comparison (different versions to boot) and a GPU benchmark.
It would be interesting to see if the A5 design is more than just packaging. I wonder if there are any memory optimizations other than just size?
I imagine that in the next few years as the SoC performace improves you will see all sorts of benchmarks. I'm looking forward to a phone that can handle 90% of my work load. Get home and pop it in a dock to light up two displays, a keyboard and a mouse. Nothing like traveling with your desktop in your pocket.
3GS had 256MB RAM, not 128MB. And it's not fair to compared RAM usage between two different OS, especially iOS had very limited multitask function which require much RAM usage.
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPod; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_3_3 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.2 Mobile/8J2 Safari/6533.18.5)
I'll most likely get a bias answer from most of those who choose to answer this since after all this site is meant for Apple.
I'll get straight to the chase. I've owned apple products from iPod classics to touch along with my MacBook. But I never got an iPhone. I was recently about to switch my old flip style phone to a smartphone. I've done a lot of research and came up with either the samsung galaxy s2 or HTC sensation XL (the dr dre endorsed) reason why I came up with sensation is because I love music and I'm a bit picky when it comes to sound quality. Although the HTC is endorsed by Dre Sound chip which to be honest all Dr Dre headphone products should only be worth $100 or so as their sound is not a mid ranged audiophone price. Just like most apple products, overpriced for limited stuff.
Anyways so I made up my mind and was about to buy the samsung galaxy s2 until the bestbuy dude told me that I should wait for iPhone 5 or 4S. So I waited, now after seeing this benchmark I was shocked that it beat the galaxy s2 by quite a bit. So question is should I buy the iPhone 4S? I mean it still doesn't make sense how could the iPhone 4s which is 200 or so ghz less than the 1.2ghz galaxy s2 and half the ram of S2. Have a higher benchmark? Is it the graphical chip?
Thanks a lot guys. I'm okay with bias answers as long as one can kinda backup their statement.
I'll most likely get a bias answer from most of those who choose to answer this since after all this site is meant for Apple.
I'll get straight to the chase. I've owned apple products from iPod classics to touch along with my MacBook. But I never got an iPhone. I was recently about to switch my old flip style phone to a smartphone. I've done a lot of research and came up with either the samsung galaxy s2 or HTC sensation XL (the dr dre endorsed) reason why I came up with sensation is because I love music and I'm a bit picky when it comes to sound quality. Although the HTC is endorsed by Dre Sound chip which to be honest all Dr Dre headphone products should only be worth $100 or so as their sound is not a mid ranged audiophone price. Just like most apple products, overpriced for limited stuff.
Anyways so I made up my mind and was about to buy the samsung galaxy s2 until the bestbuy dude told me that I should wait for iPhone 5 or 4S. So I waited, now after seeing this benchmark I was shocked that it beat the galaxy s2 by quite a bit. So question is should I buy the iPhone 4S? I mean it still doesn't make sense how could the iPhone 4s which is 200 or so ghz less than the 1.2ghz galaxy s2 and half the ram of S2. Have a higher benchmark? Is it the graphical chip?
Thanks a lot guys. I'm okay with bias answers as long as one can kinda backup their statement.
When you evaluate a system you have to evaluate it not just on the merits of the hardware but how well the software works with the hardware. Comparisons are fair game in my opinion.
Full multitasking is overkill for these mobile devices. And this is coming from someone who has used 2 android phones as my main phones for the last 2 years. Personally I think the service based system that Apple is using is far superior to letting tasks have free reign in the background.
A clock speed is just that. It's a number. Just because the galaxy s2 has a higher clock speed does not mean it should be inherently faster. Clock speed, memory delay, hardware optimization, and operating system all have an affect on the performance. You have to look at a system wide perspective.
It is faster for a number of reasons.
Forget about the spec race.
Go to the store and try out the GS2 and the iP4S. Spend some time with both of them and buy that one that works best for you. I told a fried the same thing and she bought the phone the rep handed her (twice). A week later she was complaining that it sucked and wasn't as good as my phone.
Nobody can answer that question for you. Try them out. That's the best advice I can offer.
The Nexus Prime will most likely have a faster CPU in processing power. 1.2Ghz vs 800Mhz. Both will be using Cortex-A9 cores. Not sure about the cache size of each. If the cache sizes are the same, then the Prime will be roughly 50% faster.
The Nexus Prime will most likely have a slower graphics performance. SGX540 versus SGX543MP2. According to the last rumors I saw, the iPhone4S will be 4x the graphics processing power of the Prime.
As for malware, you might want to do some searching yourself for more info, but the general problem is that malware has appeared on various Android application sources including Google's Android Market. At first glance, it doesn't sound that bad because Google can remotely uninstall APK (application packages, like Apple's IPA files).
However, if you dig deeper, it's a little more unsettling.
Because sandboxing on Android is looser, APKs can root the device. If you install an APK that roots the device (whether you explicitly decided to, or it's hidden malware), rooting the device means the APK can edit the device. Removing the APK no longer guarantees undoing the effects of that app, so the recall can and most likely is a broken mechanism.
Common problems for the user have been the fact that some malware authors download other well known apps, install malware in them, and then advertise these in other stores. Since the common user knows of the app by name, if they download one from the wrong source, they could get hit with the malware.
Recently discoveries in HTC's recent firmwares have also shown that diagnostic logging mechanisms installed by HTC (intent was good: to help HTC figure out what went wrong, and help troubleshoot) break the security model further. Basically, any application granted access to the internet (in other words, practically all apps) may request from the diagnostic system almost any piece of data on the entire phone. (not so good.) Without rooting.
In the past, malware was only a problem using Android app sources from random foreign companies. In the past year, as malware writers have advanced, it's a scary world. For my Nexus S, I pretty much download only apps actually issued onto the Android Market from Google or a company I know of well, or use Amazon's app store. For the most part, most apps I download are for my iPad.
Yes, exactly. In order to get actually get more work done, you need to look at the whole pipeline.
An old 1.8Ghz Macbook with a SSD can feel faster, and possibly be even faster than a newer 2.8Ghz Macbook Pro with a hard drive, just because the SSD mattered more than the CPU. (and in many cases these days, the CPU does matter less than most people think.)
I like when people is so exaggerated that makes believe them imposible
----------
Compared to iPhone 4 the 7x faster graphics means absolutely nothing in everyday working.
By the way, Android 2.3 and 3.x has GPU accelerated UI
----------
APK can root the device if they use an exploit, not because sandboxing is looser. Exactly like PDF exploit jailbroke iOS devices
Shouldn't we wait and see how battery life is in real world usage before something like this is declared the truth don't you think?
Looking at the design of the Exynos, it seems not :
Now, I'm not digging through every SoC design, but this is precisely the things that we do not have benchmarks for. While all these SoCs are now based on the Cortex A9 design/architecture, each implementor has a few particularities where it would be interesting to see if which set of optimizations are better.
Unfortunately, we don't have the benchmarks here (raw integer calculations, raw floating point operations, memory transfers, etc...) to compare SoC in their entirety. What we have is a Javascript engine comparison (different versions to boot) and a GPU benchmark.
All modern SoCs have package on package memory.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4144/...gra-2-review-the-first-dual-core-smartphone/3
Has anyone else seen the rebuttal to the SunSpider Benchmark results?
http://www.bestsmartphone.com/2011/09/26/javascript-benchmarks/
http://www.bestsmartphone.com/2011/09/26/javascript-benchmarks/