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damn we need to figure out how to over clock the iphone to the same speed as the ipads that would be grate!!!!

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Yeah, sadly though, this is the first iPhone I will be skipping.


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Wow ! 10 people marked me down ! Its like these Apple fanatics go crazy for no good reason.

Yeah ...thats right, I'm not getting this one. I'm going to hold out for the next one. Don't get you're panties in a bunch guys.

Jeeze !

i agree .. i started with the 3gs cause the 3g was just a POS.. then i only got the four (7 months after it came out) cause of the retina screen and the ram and from now on i will skip the "S"/.5 models and wait for the redesigns..

S models are only good if you dont have an iphone at all...

and IMOP the ipad to should have been called ipad1 S!!! i skipped ipad 2 due to no retina which makes it not much better than ipad 1 in real world movie watching and game playing..
 
Who cares? The screen is the size of a credit card, the OS sucks as does the battery and proximity sensor and the tech inside it is 18 months out of date, my calculator has more RAM, 512mb is laughable.

The Nexus Prime takes a dump on the iPhone 4(with better camera).

I have a 12-month old android phone, 800 mhz and the proximity sensor never worked, face dialing all the time, smooth scrolling lasted about 5 minutes after i turned it on, i miss calls waiting for the phone app to load, I charge it 3x a day... just sold it for 40 bucks and I think I only got that because i included a 4gb sd card. Prior to that I had tweaked every last drop of energy I could get out of it... but in the end i wanted to be able to make phone calls :/

You can argue about hardware and you can argue that there are android phones that are theoretically better than the iphone, but when one company makes one phone with one hardware set and one operating system the user experience is going to be more consistent, in apple's case apparently for the better. I think i had an unusually bad experience, but it seems kind of ludicrous to come here to crap on iphones for their speed. My buddy has a 3g that still runs like new.
 
damn we need to figure out how to over clock the iphone to the same speed as the ipads that would be grate!!!!

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S models are only good if you dont have an iphone at all...


I disagree. If you have a 3g, or 3gs, the 4s is a very good upgrade as opposed to owning the 3gs for over 3 years waiting for the iPhone 5.

I can understand saying the 4s model is not good if you own the 4, but the blanket statement that S models are only good if you don't have an iPhone is silly. If that is what it takes for you to sleep at night because you do not plan to get the 4s than so be it.
 
I just don't understand all of the pointless arguing about specs/performance of Android vs. iPhone. Are people really that petty that they actually care? Just test/use the phones and decide for yourself which you like better! They are like comparing apples to oranges.
 
That is fantastic. Holy crap I am so excited for iOS 5.

My experience on the GM has been a marked improvement in usability on the iPhone 4. From responsiveness, to smoother scrolling, even to home-button reliability, everything feels better. This combined with the major changes to the OS (notifications, photostream, wireless syncing, etc.), massive number of minor UI tweaks has made (custom vibrations, message improvements, mail, etc.) make the iPhone 4 feel very fresh and competitive.

The more I use iOS 5 the more I like it!
 
So 800mhz dual core? Even single core processors are at 1.5ghz these days.

At least iOS is optimized for the phone though.
GHz mean nothing on their own. It's architecture times clock speed.

Would you take a 3.4 GHz Pentium 4 or 2.4 GHz Core i5?
 
I wonder how much the nexus prime will beat the iphone4s by. Im going to say 2.5x faster.

Your signature says a lot about how insecure you are about the phone you own. All you can come up with is "Mine is bigger than yours" lame responses. What a sad little man you must be.
 
Almost makes you wonder if Apple got some design specs on the A15 chipset and created some kind of hybrid between the A9 and A15
 
Siri + super phone camera justifies an upgrade for me.

The faster speed (and this article cinches it) and ability to get more storage justifies it for me (as that's really the only two things I've said I want improved about my iPhone 4). But the better camera is definitely nice and Siri will at least be a fun extra (but remains to be seen if it will be useful. One big downside I see is I'm betting it won't work for 3rd party apps. For example I'd much rather use the alarm I bought for my iPhone that lets me play my playlist to wake up than Apple's alarm that I have to just use ringtones but I bet there will be no way to tell Siri to use a different alarm other than Apple's).

But, my upgrade isn't til 4 months from now (which makes it close enough at least to the original new iphone announcement I'll wonder if I should wait but far enough, especially if they are doing releases in October now, that I will really not want to as I'm not a patient person). Maybe by then I'll have cooled down and be more willing to wait (though there are some things that make me suspect I'll want the 4S over the 5. Mainly if the 5 does go 4G that's not worth losing my unlimited or if it gets a bigger screen I don't want that either. But I'm open if it has some other enticing things to get over either of those two things happening).
 
Wow ! 10 people marked me down ! Its like these Apple fanatics go crazy for no good reason.
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What's with the rabid down-marking?

I could understand if someone wrote something a) stupid; b) offensive; or c) wildly controversial. Merely sitting out an upgrade cycle doesn't quite measure up.

Why don't we save our "thumbs down" votes for the trolls, spammers, and jerks?
 
Does 200 Mhz really impact the battery life that much?

The iPad battery is larger then the one on the iPhone so there could be some truth to the fact that tweaking the CPU could gain better battery life. It would make sense given that there would be no other advantage to lowering the CPU speed that I could think of right now.
 
It was a conversation about tech and there was no insults or name calling (nor has there been).

At this point I'm puzzled by your intervention at all. Did you come in here just to tell us users don't care ?



On a clock per clock basis, a 1.2 GHz processor vs a 800 MHz can be better or not, it depends on a lot of factors. However, we're discussing SoCs that all pretty much use the same Cortex A9 design and architecture, so they should be pretty much equivalent as far as instructions per clock go.

I was just pointing out that we lack a benchmark that's accurate and reliable for pure CPU performance, to see if Apple gets better performance out of its implementation vs Qualcomm, nVidia, Samsung or Texas Instruments.

Again, I don't get the point of your intervention now at page 6. This conversation was perfectly smooth and going well. We didn't need you to remind us to stay in line or to remind us how users don't like all this tech talk.

Do the other designs contain the RAM in the same package like the A9?

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I just don't understand all of the pointless arguing about specs/performance of Android vs. iPhone. Are people really that petty that they actually care? Just test/use the phones and decide for yourself which you like better! They are like comparing apples to oranges.

Yes ;)
 
Why don't we save our "thumbs down" votes for the trolls, spammers, and jerks?

"Save" ? You can rank up or down each post once. Not ranking a post does not mean you can rank more posts down the line. You can rank every post if you want to.

(Frankly, I think the ranking system is wrong, it's just a big popularity contest where the mob opinion is reflected in the rank).
 
The iPad battery is larger then the one on the iPhone so there could be some truth to the fact that tweaking the CPU could gain better battery life. It would make sense given that there would be no other advantage to lowering the CPU speed that I could think of right now.

I wonder if the phones run at 800Mhz all the time. If so then that would be a good reason to have the clock lower. If they have dynamic clocks...
 
I love how these tests are "irrelevant" when Android does better, and vice versa. Fanboy/Fandroid. Same argument, different day!

Figures, tests and specs do matter, weither is is MPG for a car, or BHP. Of course none of it means much in real world conditions. But they are marketing features.

To me, it is about what works. In my hand the iPhone 4 out paced the SGS II fairly easily, mainly because I am more familiar with iOS, little other reason. I think the iPhone 4s was initially a little disappointing, but will turn out to be a great phone. the 3Gs, still seems to be highly thought of, for example. Values dont trail the iPhone 4 as much as one would expect.

Hardware specs mean nothing by themselves. It's how well the OS is optimized to take adavntage of the hardware. iOS 5 is going to be great for that reason. iPhone 4 and iPhone 3GS are going to run snappier :D
 
"Save" ? You can rank up or down each post once. Not ranking a post does not mean you can rank more posts down the line. You can rank every post if you want to..

Every person I pass as I walk down the street presents me with the option of either a) kissing them on the lips or b) punching them on the nose.

And yet I rarely do either.

I "save" my kisses, and my punches, for those who truly deserve them.
 
Every person I pass as I walk down the street presents me with the option of either a) kissing them on the lips or b) punching them on the nose.

And yet I rarely do either.

I "save" my kisses, and my punches, for those who truly deserve them.

You do have a third option, walk on by without doing anything.
 
Do the other designs contain the RAM in the same package like the A5?

Looking at the design of the Exynos, it seems not :

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Now, I'm not digging through every SoC design, but this is precisely the things that we do not have benchmarks for. While all these SoCs are now based on the Cortex A9 design/architecture, each implementor has a few particularities where it would be interesting to see if which set of optimizations are better.

Unfortunately, we don't have the benchmarks here (raw integer calculations, raw floating point operations, memory transfers, etc...) to compare SoC in their entirety. What we have is a Javascript engine comparison (different versions to boot) and a GPU benchmark.
 
I honestly believe the release schedule was altered for two reasons. IOS5 was late in development, and it lines up perfectly with a holiday release next year of the iPhone 5/6 with LTE. Qualcomm has released 2012's chip release and Q2 the smaller more efficient LTE chip is going to be released, and my guess is Apple is toying with a few of em right now.

Judging by that sole fact, I am going to believe this October yearly release cycle is going to be the new standard, because it lines up perfectly with the holidays, and since they won't release the next phone without an LTE chip, and since Q2 is when they get it, they will be making a lot of phones by Q3

I'm sorry, but doesn't the holidays have very little to do with a phone's release cycle? Who gets somebody a service with a contract as a gift, or a phone at full retail price without a contract? That would be the worst present ever. "Enjoy your free phone! Now here's your $2,300 bill for the next 2 years!" "I bought you an iPhone! What, you have 18 months left with T-Mobile?"
 
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Nicky G said:
No, you couldn't.

Hah oh man, I always say "couldn't care less" but I guess it's a combination of just having woken up and listening to a podcast recently where they were talking about "could care less" vs. "couldn't care less" and I think it scrambled my brains.

COULDN'T care less, yes. :eek:

"I could care less?"

It only works if it's phrased as a question.
 
so looking forward to getting my 4S later this week, and becoming more and more relieved that I held off on upgrading my old Samsung flip phone for the 4 when it first came to Verizon... I think the main draw for me that helped me decide to finally buy my first iPhone was the improved camera (and the performance/quality of both the photos/videos)- but hey, I'll take a significant boost in speed over the last generation, too!
 
I also wonder how much the nexus prime drain battery faster than iPhone 4S. Maybe 2.5x faster as well :rolleyes:

Haha, indeed! I do wonder about the big screens and fast processors when it comes to battery life. I didn't have an iPhone 4, but my 3GS battery still lasts a long time (much longer than my Palm Pre). I would not trade battery life for a bigger screen or higher spec'd prcoessor. Apple seems to excel at finding the balance between all these things better than anyone else.
 
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