The big question with the new antenna system:
Will Consumer Reports finally give a "thumbs up" to the iPhone 4S?
Will Consumer Reports finally give a "thumbs up" to the iPhone 4S?
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iPhone 4S Includes Significant Antenna Upgrades
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Nope, latter half of next year when a LTE chip is ready.
The delay for the 4S was all about iOS 5, Siri and iCloud. Had little to do with the update to the iphone hardware itself.
Wait, I thought there was no problem with the iPhone 4's antenna. How can Apple fix a problem they claimed didn't exist?
There was no problem with the CPU or graphics either but they improved those too.. Imagine that, improving the phone even though it was already excellent.
Agree Is Very Disappointment.
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The big question with the new antenna system:
Will Consumer Reports finally give a "thumbs up" to the iPhone 4S?
Good One
There's no reason to expect the CEO (who's job is to lead the company) to be stellar at public technology presentations. Or, for that matter, to expect any senior leader to be a phenomenal presenter. Jony Ive should design, not learn to speak.
With the turtlenecked overlord gone, Apple is now able to "grow up" and ditch the "superstar keynote" syndrome, and join the rest of the tech world in announcing new products when they are ready.
The presenter should be a footnote - not the lead story.
By the way, AAPL still dropping....
And rightfully so, if Apple is stealing patented IP.
This may be wishful thinking, but does anyone think the dual antenna system will improve call reliability with AT&T, especially in NYC and harder hit areas?
I don't disagree with any of your aforementioned arguments but the after-market for Apple closed essentially flat. However, Nasdaq did end up the normal trading session 3% up.
http://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/aapl/after-hours
Chill out dude.. This wasn't totally unexpected. Its our fault; we over-hyped this for months.
and, its only a phone. A tool that makes our lives easier
you are having the wrong carrier, switch to Sprint
I cant wait to leave ATT!!! Verizon or sprint here I come!
Why did they upgrade the antenna? There was nothing wrong with the old one as long as you held the phone properly.
This.
I wonder what all the "Imma gunna wait for da iPhone 5" crowd will do once they realize that the next iPhone will probably be out around this time next year:
- There's no reason why Apple would release another iPhone soon after the 4S. Doing so would be a waste of money (e.g., production line retooling and R&D costs). From a business standpoint, you want to make the releases as far apart as possible, as long as you don't sacrifice market share. Apple would only shorten the release schedule if the iPhone was in significant danger of falling behind, and, unlike what people here would like to believe, the iPhone is still selling ungodly well. So what if people don't upgrade? There are likely a lot more non-iPhone users who'll buy an iPhone, especially now that the 3GS is "free" with a contract. (Yes, Apple won't make as much money with the 3GS, but Apple's taking marketshare away from android and others.)
- From a cash flow standpoint, it makes sense to separate the two really big products by six months or so: say, the iPad in spring/summer, and the iPhone towards the holiday season. Put the releases closer together, and you'll have some people buying only one or the other; space them apart, and you increase the chances of people buying both.
- Back in June, Steve Jobs implied that the upcoming changes would be largely software-related, and that's what we saw today. It's not surprising.
- If Steve Jobs was still the CEO, and gave today's presentation, nothing would have changed. Producing (designing and creating the production process for) hardware like the iPhone takes months; the hardware feature set of the 4S was likely set in stone months ago, probably a couple of months before Steve Jobs resigned.
- Each iPhone release has generally been a gradual evolution of the version before it. The iPhone 4 intro was something of an anomaly, as it introduced the "oooh, shiny" retina display. Go look at the model comparison on wikipedia. The 4S just hasn't had an in-your-face improvement like the retina display of the 4.
- Regarding the cases for the "tapered" iPhone design: it wouldn't surprise me if Apple gave out fake preliminary info to suppliers. If nothing was leaked, well, it was just preliminary info that changed; if it leaked, it screwed over everyone that got it. On the other hand, it might be the design for next year's model, but Apple just didn't tell that to their suppliers, with the same end effect.
Meh. I'm betting the HTC Titan, the 3 new Nokia WP7 devices and the Samsung Galaxy S3 are going to blow the IP4S out of the water. Enjoy this little calm before the storm.
it might be of little consolation but perhaps this might be a good time to get a life?
Apple owns that company, so they own all the patents. I hope Microsoft has their own virtual AI Assistant already done & dusted, but just they didn't have time to integrate into WP7.
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Like anyone wants Microsoft Sam
KingCrimson said:
Like anyone wants Microsoft Sam
This is Apple's SOP
This to me seems the way that Apple does with their so called patents.
This to me seems the way that Apple does with their so called patents.
Siri is still beta
If we had to wait for Siri the wait is long from being over. I thought that they said it would be months. So it seems that we are still waiting. Maybe Siri will ship on the iPhone 5 whenever it comes out. So will the iPhone 4s actually ever have Siri.
I have a great Android SmartPhone that has the larger screen size that an iPhone needs for those without 20/20 eyesight. It already has an 8 mp cameral that takes great pictures. Just blow up one & crop it down to an 5.5 X 11 image. It has for the past 16 months worked on Sprint's WiMax 4g system.
I already have the iPhone 5. I thought that the new iPhone would at least match what I've had for the past 16 months. I guess that this makes muy Android phone at least 2 generations ahead of the iPhone. And to think that I was thinking of replacing 2 Android smartphones. Apple has missed it again.
We didn't hear anything about the iPad on Sprint.
If we had to wait for Siri the wait is long from being over. I thought that they said it would be months. So it seems that we are still waiting. Maybe Siri will ship on the iPhone 5 whenever it comes out. So will the iPhone 4s actually ever have Siri.
I have a great Android SmartPhone that has the larger screen size that an iPhone needs for those without 20/20 eyesight. It already has an 8 mp cameral that takes great pictures. Just blow up one & crop it down to an 5.5 X 11 image. It has for the past 16 months worked on Sprint's WiMax 4g system.
I already have the iPhone 5. I thought that the new iPhone would at least match what I've had for the past 16 months. I guess that this makes muy Android phone at least 2 generations ahead of the iPhone. And to think that I was thinking of replacing 2 Android smartphones. Apple has missed it again.
We didn't hear anything about the iPad on Sprint.
Apple owns Siri and the technology behind it. Nuance just supplies the speech decoding.
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I really woulda preferred HSPA+ over 2 radios, I can't think why they didn't do it, it's easier to implement.
I really woulda preferred HSPA+ over 2 radios, I can't think why they didn't do it, it's easier to implement.