iPhone 5 or earlier iPhone 4s, Is it Genuine?

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by psychedrahul, Jul 24, 2013.

  1. psychedrahul macrumors newbie

    Jul 21, 2013
    My friend has just sent me an iPhone from USA. He purchased the (used & unlocked) iPhone from a dealer in NJ city. I have following doubts :

    1. According to the Serial No, (verified on https://selfsolve.apple.com) it says its an iphone 4s valid purchase and out of warranty.

    2. The back panel of the iPhone says
    Model No : A1349 EMC : 2422 FCC ID : BCG-E 24228

    I have read on few of the recent posts on the model number and they say this model(A1349) is for iPhone 4CDMA.Is it true ? cant it be used for iphone 4s originally?

    The back panel is also missing the FC and CE logos. I am confused if it was changed or it is not genuine.

    3. When i looked up on sndeep.info/, with the serial no. it is showing 11 months old and has a camera of 5MP. Are these two sitautions possible given the phone is and iPhone 4s.

    4. How to check if the outer casing and the hardware in the iphone is genuine and upto the iPhone 4s standard?

    Any suggestions would be helpful.

    Thank you
  2. SPEEDwithJJ macrumors 65816


    Nov 2, 2008
    What does "Settings > General > About > Model" show?
  3. grooveattack macrumors 6502a

    Jan 9, 2008
    Your best bet is to take it to an apple store and ask one of the guys there. Or simply compare it to an in store demo unit.

    Some tricks I have learnt: Is the grill straight in the receiver? is the hole over the front facing camera straight? what are the screws like on the bottom (cross heads or pentalobe. cross head would be bad news) serial number on the sim card tray?
    And finally, the thin bit of plastic around the display, gently see if you can push your nail between the glass and plastic, gently though, dont force it at all. If the two separate then you have a problem.
  4. Lucille Carter macrumors 65816

    Jul 3, 2013
    Take it to your local APple store and they will tell you in a second if it is real.
  5. Fuchal macrumors 68020

    Sep 30, 2003
    If it boots, it's genuine. As far as I know there are no knockoffs floating around booting iOS. The back and / or front panels may have been replaced at some point, so I wouldn't go by the serial on the back panel. Try the serial in General > About, which should be the serial of the logic board.
  6. Merkie macrumors 68020

    Oct 23, 2008
    It works like a real iPhone and feels like a real iPhone, it will probably be a real iPhone.
  7. boshii macrumors 68040


    Jul 6, 2008
    Atlanta, GA
  8. psychedrahul thread starter macrumors newbie

    Jul 21, 2013
    It boots just fine. And the serial number checks out.
  9. psychedrahul thread starter macrumors newbie

    Jul 21, 2013
    Model Number : MD235DN/A


    Thanks for the pointers and i have tried most of them except the istore guy option(Will do that). And the overall quality of the phone is fine..its just the back cover that looks odd and the camera quality is not as expected.

    Silly question : On a website where i checked with the help of the serial number( http://sndeep.info/en ). It showed everything else just fine but on the camera tab : it said 5MP. Is it possible ? I mean 4s has a 8MP camera right?
  10. SPEEDwithJJ macrumors 65816


    Nov 2, 2008
    I could be wrong, but that seems to be a Black 16GB iPhone 4S (non-US) model. Maybe someone else will able to help you out with some other helpful advice.
  11. 0dev macrumors 68040


    Dec 22, 2009
    Are you worried it might be a fake Chinese clone? Take some photos and post them here so we can look. Those fakes are very easy to tell from the real ones to the trained eye. Also the software will be some basic dumbphone OS or skinned Android if it's fake, again very easy to tell from real iOS.
  12. TheProFTW macrumors regular

    Jun 27, 2013
    Washington, DC
    The back screen was probably replaced with a cheap chinese one, probably why the CE logos are gone.

    If it has iOS, it can't be fake.
  13. SPEEDwithJJ macrumors 65816


    Nov 2, 2008
    Is it possible for that iPhone 4S to be fitted with an iPhone 4 (CDMA model) 5MP camera? :confused:
  14. dictoresno macrumors 601


    Apr 30, 2012
    if i remember correctly, the CE logos only appear on phones with world capabilities since they are euro certifications. this would make them unnecessary on a US CDMA device....but i could be wrong. also, an iphone 4 CDMA model wont have a sim card slot, a 4s one will.
  15. richuam, Jul 24, 2013
    Last edited: Jul 24, 2013

    richuam macrumors newbie

    Jul 24, 2013
    Your best bet is to take it to an apple store and ask one of the guys there[​IMG]
  16. psychedrahul thread starter macrumors newbie

    Jul 21, 2013
    Yes, please clarify. As i am not aware of any methods to check the iPhone's hardware capabilities.:confused:
  17. C DM macrumors Westmere

    Oct 17, 2011
  18. psychedrahul thread starter macrumors newbie

    Jul 21, 2013
    Yes, on the right side.
  19. C DM macrumors Westmere

    Oct 17, 2011
    That would more than likely mean it's at least not a CDMA iPhone 4 as that one doesn't have a SIM slot.
  20. iRepairParts macrumors regular


    Oct 6, 2012
    As a couple of other posters here have said, it sounds like the back panel may have been replaced at some point. If everything else checks out, and iOS is booting up, you dont really have anything to worry about.
  21. TammiCline macrumors newbie

    Jan 20, 2018
    --- Post Merged, Jan 20, 2018 ---
    Just a quick note for anyone in future, which was probably part of this original issue also....that last number on the back of your iphone 4...the fcc #...it IS NOT 24228....THAT NUMBER IS 2422B!!! IT ENDS IN A "B" FOR BLACK, NOT AN 8!!!
  22. jav6454 macrumors P6


    Nov 14, 2007
    1 Geostationary Tower Plaza
    AT any rate its a valid iPhone. However, a 4S is well beyond warranty and not even serviceable.

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