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I'm truly interested here. Can you simply say "show me a fed ex location" and google maps will show you or do you have to say "navigate" or some other heading like navigate first.

You could limply say "navigate to FedEx" and it would pull up a list of locations with the closest one at the top of the list. Touch the one you want and away you go with the built in Google Maps/GPS app with a 3D moving map with voice turn-by-turn directions. It doesn't seem to do as well with "navigate to 123 east main street los angeles", but it's great with navigating to places like stores and restaurants etc...

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Not for anyone that has used IOS. The Android OS is good, IOS is great.

I've been using IOS for years (still do on my iPad) and while I think it's quite good (great? meh, it's an OS, none of them are great) I'm liking Android so far. It has it's quirks, just like IOS does, but I'm quite impressed so far.

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The S2 could somehow have unlimited battery life, and a quad-core processor with 4GB of ram for all I care. If it's not running iOS, then it's only worth buying if you can't afford an iPhone and the android phone is much less expensive

I understand how you feel. I had the same attitude myself. I sold my iPhone 4 the weekend before the 4S announcement and bought the Galaxy and had 14 days to return it. I then waited to see what would be announced by Apple, figuring I would return it if the new iPhone was better. I can tell you that you get hooked on that screen in no time. It's so bright and big and vibrant that the iPhone's looks tiny and washed out by comparison. Then when it was revealed that the next iPhone was simply a slightly improved version, I made my decision. Needless to say, I'm rockin' the galaxy. :D

The iPhone's a great phone, enjoy it.
 
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C'mon keep buying em peeps daddy needs a new world record (Fastest selling consumer product in 60 days is kinect at 8 million
 
Do a wipe and reinstall and restore from scratch.iPhone 3GS users are noticing small, but noticeable performance improvements, from iOS 5. The iPad has the same amount of memory, but a faster CPU/GPU (same as the iPhone 4) than the iPhone 3GS.

Thank you for this tip... Going to try this now!

Glad to see there is still some "want" for the iPhone!
 
My guess would be that your pronunciation of "email" might be throwing Siri, that perhaps it is seeing the tail end of that word as being a part of the name? Dunno.

Nope, since I repeat the name of the contact alone when Siri asks "Send to whom ?" and it still can't ever figure out who I'm talking about. Same contact, use the "call" command, works fine 95% of the time.

I checked with multiple contacts, they all share the same behavior. Works fine for calling, don't work at all for e-mail.

Siri's most frequent response to me this last weekend was "Sorry, I cannot connect to the server."

Never got that one at all.

It does some things amazingly well -- shockingly well.

On other things it misses the mark.

Again, it is "beta" software, but it is very unlike Apple to release "beta" software as a marquee feature. I think Siri has a ton of potential and I am already finding it useful.

It's still just Voice control with a few extra keywords. It can't really understand real "natural" language. Take my example of trying to cancel a call. Nothing but the word "Cancel" managed to do it (even explicit ones like "Nevermind" or "I changed my mind". It's quite overhyped.

However, for what it is, "Enhanced Voice Control", it's actually rather good. It still has many inefficiencies and is slower than actual typing in most scenarios, but there are some things (like the reminders) that are easier to insert with it. Of course, that may just be because Apple likes to make things an extra long time to do on iOS in general (WIDGETS!!! COME ON!).
 
I doubt it's the Beta thing that makes it slowler than actually just typing out search engine queries.

"I don't know about that, do you want to search the web for it ?"... uh... at this point, I would have been better off to search the web for it myself rather than ask you ? :rolleyes:

There's 1 bug I attribute to the beta stage though :

- "Call Contact Name at home" works fine. Siri gets the right contact, dials the right number.

- "E-mail Contact Name at home" results in the funnies. Usually, Siri will pop up a new e-mail with the subject line being : "completely messed up contact name at home" and ask "To whom shall I send it ?". :rolleyes: Repeat contact name. "I don't understand completely messed up contact name to whom shall I send it ?". Bugger. Try again. "I don't understand completely messed up contact name to whom shall I send it ?". Cancel that. "Call Same Contact Name you don't understand", bam, first try works fine.

Siri doesn't recognize any of my contacts for e-mail. None. No matter how easily pronounceable their names are and yet has no problem even with the hard to spell crap when calling contacts. Why ? That is a bug to sort out and something that's "beta" about it. But the slowness, confirmations and inefficiencies are just par for the course for Voice control. Sometimes, it is just faster to type things out.

Not to mention the point about "Natural conversation with the phone". Another scenario that caused problems :

- "Call Contact Name". "Which number to you want to use, mobile or home ?". Fine, let's play around with "natural" language and just talk to this thing as if it were human instead of a glorified Voice Control system. "Nevermind". "Which number to you want to use, mobile or home ?". "I changed my mind". "Which number to you want to use, mobile or home ?". "Bugger that, don't call anyone". "Which number to you want to use, mobile or home ?". Rince and repeat for a good 3 minutes of trying "natural" language ways of cancelling an action. The only way I got Siri to stop bugging me was to issue the rather plain and dull "Cancel" command. I thought this wasn't "Voice Control" but rather "speak naturally to your phone ?".

All of this together still leaves me with the same opinion as before : Siri is a gimmick. It's a nice thing to show off, doesn't quite work well in real world scenarios. We're not in the 24th century yet and I can't write this post to the Captain's Log for now.

(wonder how low this post will reach... imagine that, someone actually using a function and criticizing it! I want to point out to anyone wanting to downrank me to oblivion : Have you used Siri ? I have).

For whatever reasons you've been whining about Siri even before you tried it. We all get that you don't like Siri ....

My experience with Siri has been much different. Like many posters have mentioned it works incredibly well.

You're in Quebec, do you have an accent?

Siri doesn't yet support Canadian French. Even if you're speaking English to Siri could your French Canadian accent be throwing it off?

In the beginning Siri took some experimenting and learning. After a few hours playing around it's been very accurate, fast and a must have feature.

I use it all day for appointments, reminders, email and searching. Don't have a single complaint.

Can't understand the trouble you're having, I wouldn't like it either if it was working that way.

It's for sure no gimmick, it's excellent now and will only get better.

Thank you Apple for another great product and user experience. iOS 5 and iPhone 4S is amazing, going by the sales numbers many think so too.
 
For whatever reasons you've been whining about Siri even before you tried it. We all get that you don't like Siri ....

Whining ? no, I've been stating an opinion. I've now confirmed my opinion though I would have changed it had Siri actually panned out.

My experience with Siri has been much different. Like many posters have mentioned it works incredibly well.

Good for you, it doesn't work incredibly well for me. It somewhat works in some scenarios, works great in others, works great but is slower than doing things manually in yet another subset.

It's far from perfect. It's an evolution of Voice control, but it's still limited in what it can do.

You're in Quebec, do you have an accent?

Siri doesn't yet support Canadian French. Even if you're speaking English to Siri could your French Canadian accent be throwing it off?

I think my french accent threw you off since you misread all of my posts up until now.
 
The people that upgraded to an Iphone 4s that already had an iphone 4 are truly sheep.

I must be a sheep. Baaaa.

Let me think. My iPhone 4 was a over a year old, working fine but out of warranty. I can sell it on eBay for more than the price of paying out the contract, so it will actually make me money upfront.

I sign up to a new phone plan ($0 upfront), which is around the same price as my current plan, with more call allowance, more data allowance...

And I get a brand new phone, with full warranty. It's faster, both running apps and on the phone network, and it has all the new features, larger storage capacity, etc.

And Siri works great for me.

Why on earth would I NOT upgrade? I'd be crazy not to!

Baaaa baaaa baaaa
 
Astounded by the amount of 4Ss that have been sold. So much for the big 'fail'. Loving it so far, although Siri doesn't like the British accent so much.
 
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GeekLawyer said:
Only 25 million upgraded to iOS 5? In the scheme of things is that a small number (compared to the number of eligeble iOS devices)?
I forget the stats, but I remember reading that a relative small number of people ever update their iDevice with a newer than the shipping OS.

That may obviously change with over-the-air delivery of updates with iOS 5.

Compared to .05% of android users who even can update to a new is version it is not bad
 
I wonder. Is there ever a bad time to buy Apple shares?

These numbers are scarily big. You'd have to think the iPhone must be approaching 'saturation', that its market percentage won't grow too much more and the majority of sales will be just users upgrading. And then you see results like this, and.. maybe not!

And then you still have the iPad, which is probably the Apple device with the most growth potential. If anything, I reckon the Apple shares are still undervalued.

Regarding how many iPhones apple can sell? Two words: chi-na
 
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AppleScruff1 said:
That's not irony.

The people would have still lined up even if there were no changes. The average person hears new iPhone, I want one and the rest is history as usual. The media contributes a lot to this phenomenon. People lined up to the buy the phone site unseen like they always do.
Try again, Baldi.

Must be torturous for you.

I wonder if more than one android phone will sell 4 million units in 2011.

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BaldiMac said:
The people would have still lined up even if there were no changes. The average person hears new iPhone, I want one and the rest is history as usual. The media contributes a lot to this phenomenon. People lined up to the buy the phone site unseen like they always do.
Try again, Baldi.

Any evidence of this other than your own imagination?

He has to believe it or else his entire existence crumbles.
 
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kdarling said:
Apple today announced that opening weekend sales of the iPhone 4S topped four million units,

That's just the beginning. Piper Jaffrey predicted that most (~65%) 3GS users would upgrade, which alone should be almost 19 million.

They might've been low. AT&T exit surveys showed that 3/4s (73%) of their first sales were upgrades from previous iPhones.

It's been a long time since an upgrade was available.

Apple also announced that more than 25 million users have downloaded iOS 5, which was released last Wednesday for pre-iPhone 4S devices.

Out of 250 million iOS devices sold, only 10% on the latest OS version.

Where are the handwringing articles about fragmentation :)

Um I don't think it's fragmentation if anyone can book up their idevices to iTunes and update while others have to wait 6-12months for an update which people flash Roms on their phones to avoid the wait
 
I'm still holding out for the iPhone 5...
Your personal choice and honesty earned a minus 5 rating, as of this writing.

Proof positive that lying & sucking up to Apple, is what fanboys want.

Poor souls can't even think for themselves.

Me?

I'm with you, the iPhone 5 (or whatever they call it) is the one I'm waiting for.

Waiting is something that won't bother me in the least.
 
on launch day around 5:00, i walked into the mall to the at&t kiosk (which is right next to the apple store) ask for a 32g black, and was out in 10 mins. probably the smoothest cell phone purchase ever. :cool:
 
Looooving my 64GB Black.

I loved my 4 from the day they came out until the day I got my 4S. The 4 is an amazing device, definitely, but the extra horsepower in the 4S coupled with the extra storage, the new camera system (!), better antennas, and Siri... this phone is a win.

Wife loves hers, too, and my son's getting his shipped for his 18th bd present as an upgrade to his 4. He's quite excited.

We'll probably do it all again when the 5 comes out, but we're really digging the new phones.

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Your personal choice and honesty earned a minus 5 rating, as of this writing.

Proof positive that lying & sucking up to Apple, is what fanboys want.

Poor souls can't even think for themselves.

Me?

I'm with you, the iPhone 5 (or whatever they call it) is the one I'm waiting for.

Waiting is something that won't bother me in the least.

Nothing wrong with waiting if that's what you'd like to do. Truly.

Just like there's nothing wrong with getting a 4S if that's what you'd like to do (and, on top of that, getting the 5 when it comes out, too).

Doesn't mean I can't think for myself or that I'm a fanboy. Just means I appreciate great hardware, great software, great design, and am able and willing to pay to have it.
 
Your personal choice and honesty earned a minus 5 rating, as of this writing.

Proof positive that lying & sucking up to Apple, is what fanboys want.

Poor souls can't even think for themselves.

Me?

I'm with you, the iPhone 5 (or whatever they call it) is the one I'm waiting for.

Waiting is something that won't bother me in the least.

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Compared to .05% of android users who even can update to a new is version it is not bad

Nothing like making up statistics :)

Android devices don't depend on OS updates anywhere near as much as iOS devices do, because most of their core apps can be updated individually.

Google Maps on Android has been continuously improved, for example, without requiring a new OS version. The same will likely be true of any AI-like update to Google Voice Search.

As with iOS, there will be some exceptions where older devices simply are missing the required hardware, such as a front camera or GPU. However, Android updates are not withheld simply to force users to buy newer devices.
 
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sladey said:
The people that upgraded to an Iphone 4s that already had an iphone 4 are truly sheep.

I must be a sheep. Baaaa.

Let me think. My iPhone 4 was a over a year old, working fine but out of warranty. I can sell it on eBay for more than the price of paying out the contract, so it will actually make me money upfront.

I sign up to a new phone plan ($0 upfront), which is around the same price as my current plan, with more call allowance, more data allowance...

And I get a brand new phone, with full warranty. It's faster, both running apps and on the phone network, and it has all the new features, larger storage capacity, etc.

And Siri works great for me.

Why on earth would I NOT upgrade? I'd be crazy not to!

Baaaa baaaa baaaa

I love this guy I guess I'll be the next "sheep" in line to buy an iPhone 4S. I wonder what they call people that buy ever souped up android device that seems to come out every few days
 
Nothing like making up statistics :)

Android devices don't depend on OS updates anywhere near as much as iOS devices do, because most of their core apps can be updated individually.

Google Maps on Android has been continuously improved, for example, without requiring a new OS version. The same will likely be true of any AI-like update to Google Voice Search.

As with iOS, there will be some exceptions where older devices simply are missing the required hardware, such as a front camera or GPU. However, Android updates are not withheld simply to force users to buy newer devices.

An os is not just apps. Surely you can't believe that the jump from froyo to gingerbread is just a few updated apps. Or from gb to ice cream sandwich is just newer google maps. The truth is android users are at the mercy of oems who may or may not give them updates. If I remeber correctly, Samsung fascinate owners didn't get froyo till after honeycomb was out.

Your right android updates aren't withheld to force upgrades. They're just withheld period. Android phones are horribly outdated a month after release.
 
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