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I have a 2011 Nissan Juke with the upgraded audio system w/ a USB port. I figure if the iPhone 5 won't work I will just use my 30GB classic iPod instead.
 
It's so amazing to me how many of you guys are dumb enough to even CONSIDER taking a brand new iphone 5 into a car with you. Where would you put it to stop it from moving? What if it got dented? What if it was too hot in the car. I would never consider removing my iphone from the house for the first 6 weeks and it would spend a MINIMUM of 16 hours a day in the box until it was properly broken in.

These aren't free, throw-away, phones people.

In my Nissan Juke, there is a very cool non-skid mat right below my head unit. It's specifically made to set your iPhone or iPod there while driving. Quite handy, I must say.
 
This is my first iphone so don't know about hooking it up to my car for audio, I have a Hyundai though, so it looks like it won't work from some of the posts. This problem will not affect the hands free bluetooth dialing, right?
 
Great news for you and Chris. Ford sync systems use USB connect that is digital - no analog is required. So the iPhone will work with a Lightning to USB cable. The newer cars also support bluetooth connect. I have a Edge with MyFord Touch and have been using iOS 6 in it for the entire time of the beta without any problem, in fact iOS 6 adds support for the Bluetooth MAP protocol allowing Sync to read you your texts.
Great news! Thanks for the info.
 
Havent read the whole thread, anybody here have an Appradio? I have the Appradio 2, and I am worried it is now a $500 unit I can no longer use.

It doesn't make sense to me why apple would make all these devices obsolete, but they have done it before.
 
Great news for you and Chris. Ford sync systems use USB connect that is digital - no analog is required. So the iPhone will work with a Lightning to USB cable. The newer cars also support bluetooth connect. I have a Edge with MyFord Touch and have been using iOS 6 in it for the entire time of the beta without any problem, in fact iOS 6 adds support for the Bluetooth MAP protocol allowing Sync to read you your texts.
Yes, I'm very excited now! :D
 
Off hand I'm not sure. I never hook up my phone b/c I then forget to take it out. I have a shuffle hooked up & I know that does not have the iPod interface, just the BMW one. I'll have to hook up my iPhone and see what happens. I'll let you know.

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iPod Out only works in the BMW if you purchased the snap-in adapter for $250.

BJ
 
Unless you have a premium sound system in your car and your tracks are apple lossless, most people probably won't notice the difference in quality between BT and USB.

Tracks don't need to be in ALAC to tell the difference. Songs purchased from iTunes is enough to tell a difference in my car's sound system, Burmester.
 
I'm wicked confused. If my car has a head unit with USB input and I buy this new iPhone, will I be able to get audio via the USB - Lightning cable or will I have to use a 30 pin cable with an adapter?

Just the new pack-in Apple cable.

This whole thing is nonsense. The only people who will need this $30 adapter are clock radio dock owners who have no USB port as an option or people with the Y cable who can't use just the USB port.

BJ

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Mine has the exact same set-up. We need a new splitter cable with the Lightening connector on it.

You didn't have iPod Out on that Y cord so you aren't losing anything.

"iPod Out" is a terrible name for a sexy LCD display protocol that you do not have.

With the $30 connector you will have all the functionality you have now on your BMW.

Y-Cord BMW People = Get the $30 adapter, everything is the same as it was.

USB BMW People = Plug in the new pack-in cable, everything is the same as it was.

Snap-In Cradle BMW People = Wait 6 months for the new snap-in and pay $250 and get your iPod Out display back.

BJ
 
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I have my phone connected via bluetooth so i can take calls on the built in hands free kit... but music doesn't play through it.

If there's a way of making it do that, i'd be interested, but haven't found it so far.

I think it depends on the option that you have, but do you have navigation on your bmw? If so, most likely it is, but I know different years have different options and the different options that come as standard changes year to year. But most likely if you have navi, you should be able to connect your iphone as a music device.
 
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The above photos are from what is called "iPod Out" which is a display protocol from Apple. iPod Out does NOT mean "it plays music from your iPhone". iPod Out means "I spent extra money to get this extra-sexy looking UI".

If you don't have this Apple-designed display you do NOT have iPod Out, therefore you have nothing to worry about.

Again, "iPod Out" is a bad name for an upgraded, Apple TV looking display. It is NOT related to whether or not your iPhone will play music or be controlled by your steering wheel. So when Apple refers to the $30 converter as "not supporting iPod Out" that only means that people with the sexy UI lose out. You don't lose out. You are fine as you never had iPod Out to begin with. So stop writing letters to BMW.

BJ
 
You're going to pay all that money to put in a high-end deck just to play music through Bluetooth? You should be aiming a little bit higher and looking for a wired set-up. Sure, everyone is like "wires? Bad!", but they offer the best fidelity. Plus, they can charge your phone.

Oh I'm not paying a lot of money. It's only $120 for the deck I'm getting. I don't really care.
 
idk, it seems like some people own more expensive cars than BMWs and still complain about buying a $30 adapter.

Yeah.

Like some people i know who complain about "premium gas" and high insurance but always end their rants with "it is worth it".

It is like one part of them is fighting the other over their financial follies. If you cannot afford something, don't buy? Why whine after intentionally jumping into a pit?

Wow that went OT fast. My apologies lol.
 
i dont think u guys are smart at all. isnt one side of the wire still a usb and the other side is the lighting? isnt the usb still going to be plugged into the USB port of whatever u may plug into? the lighting is only on ONE side which goes into ur iphone. please correct me if im wrong.
 
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iPod Out only works in the BMW if you purchased the snap-in adapter for $250.

BJ

Ah, it's you again! I'm surprised that you're still using an iPhone 4. You do have a 5-64GB on order, yes? ;) I suggest a few more Rolexes as well, you don't seem to have expanded your collection at all over the past few years. Tsk tsk.

I can use the iPod out feature (the iPod menu emulation) via the Y cable, no cradle/snap-in adapter required. Some coding was done specifically to enable this though.

Re: models that use the Y cable (such as my M5): audio goes out through the analogue jack while controls/videos/artwork go out through the USB jack so the adapter will not work. Lightning is all digital, and the adapter cannot convert the signal to analogue for the car.

Based on what I'm reading, that is. I guess I'll find out soon.
 
Ah, it's you again! I'm surprised that you're still using an iPhone 4. You do have a 5-64GB on order, yes?

models that use the Y cable (such as my M5): audio goes out through the analogue jack while controls/videos/artwork go out through the USB jack so the adapter will not work. Lightning is all digital, and the adapter cannot convert the signal to analogue for the car.

Based on what I'm reading, that is. I guess I'll find out soon.

You say "Lightning is all digital, and the adapter cannot convert the signal to analogue for the car."

Huh?

That's exactly the reason the adapter exists. Converts a digital iPhone 5 output to an analog signal so it can talk to a 30 pin input.

The iPod Out protocol is the only thing Apple decided not to support. Everything else will work for you with the $30 adapter. The amount of misinformation here is staggering.

Yes, I have a 64GB iPhone 5 on order. It will plug straight in to my 2013 328i and work as expected.

BJ
 
More reading if you are still not clear....

http://money.cnn.com/2012/09/13/technology/apple-lightning-adapter/index.html

"It's an absurdly high price to charge, but making matters even worse, those expensive adapters don't support video or a feature called "iPod Out." That means if you buy a $29 adapter so you can plug your iPhone 5 into your speaker dock, you won't be able to control your iPod through the dock.
Apple (AAPL, Fortune 500) said nothing about that lack of functionality in its presentation on Wednesday. But in its description of both the $29 and $39 adapters on its online store, Apple clearly says "Video and iPod Out not supported."

So - If your car, car adapter, stereo, dock, etc - require this, then for now you are S.O.L.

Clear? Clear as mud?
 
Interesting. Does it also have the iPod out feature?

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I'm thinking that it's only the BMW-specific iPod out feature that won't work (as it's actually called 'iPod out', rather than iPod connectivity or the like).

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iPod Out only works in the BMW if you purchased the snap-in adapter for $250.

BJ



You guys are correct re: iPod interface. Checked it out yesterday on my '11, and it the "iPod" menu interface isn't available using the standard Apple dock connector cable. The iDrive's CD UI is the only way to navigate the iPod/iPhone when connected this way.

I never bought the iPhone snap-in adapter -- glad I didn't now that it would be obsolete for me. Knowing BMW, by the time they come out with an iPhone 5 adapter, the iPhone 6 will be out (and I'm not forgetting the likelihood of an iPhone 5s either).
 
More reading if you are still not clear....

http://money.cnn.com/2012/09/13/technology/apple-lightning-adapter/index.html

"It's an absurdly high price to charge, but making matters even worse, those expensive adapters don't support video or a feature called "iPod Out." That means if you buy a $29 adapter so you can plug your iPhone 5 into your speaker dock, you won't be able to control your iPod through the dock.
Apple (AAPL, Fortune 500) said nothing about that lack of functionality in its presentation on Wednesday. But in its description of both the $29 and $39 adapters on its online store, Apple clearly says "Video and iPod Out not supported."

So - If your car, car adapter, stereo, dock, etc - require this, then for now you are S.O.L.

Clear? Clear as mud?

They don't know what they're talking about because they don't know the meaning of the term "iPod Out".

If they did their research they'd understand that iPod Out is used on less than 1% of all docking systems, almost exclusively confined to a handful of BMW owners with an expensive and uneccessary docking cradle with snap-in adapter.

BJ
 
i dont think u guys are smart at all. isnt one side of the wire still a usb and the other side is the lighting? isnt the usb still going to be plugged into the USB port of whatever u may plug into? the lighting is only on ONE side which goes into ur iphone. please correct me if im wrong.

I think you've completely missed the point of what people are saying in this thread!
 
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