Another reason why I'm waiting 'til the end of 2013 to get the iPhone 5S.
LTE battery life has sucked balls since the first phone, I can't imagine it'll be too much better next year.
Another reason why I'm waiting 'til the end of 2013 to get the iPhone 5S.
It's a recurring theme here. We're so spoiled by the level of engineering in APPLE's products, that everything, and I mean every little detail about anything APPLE does or releases, is scrutinized to the hilt, to the point that we're sometimes expecting APPLE to routinely bend the laws of nature. Very few companies have to endure this kind of constant criticism. It's lonely at the top.
Dude... it is clearly YOU who (after Geckotek's multiple attempts to clarify) is still confused.
Let me have a go at it...
Anodizing is like "gold plating." They start with the naked metallic-looking aluminum. (FORGET THE DYES for a second.) With "regular" anodizing, they do the anodizing process and a thin shell of "blackness" gets plated onto the phone. If you take something sharp to it, you can scratch that blackness off. It's not magically indestructible. It's normally used to keep things from corroding or rusting. But, in this case, Apple has most likely chosen it for aesthetic ("good-looking") purposes.
Again, with un-dyed anodized aluminum, you can scratch off the anodized material and see the shiny metal aluminum underneath. All anodized products behave this way. It's not kryptonite or unobtainium or any other indestructible material. In fact, sadly, it's not very resistant to scratches at all. That's why anodized non-stick pans are supposed to be used with non-metallic cooking utensils... it scratches off relatively easily.
The only time dyes come into play is when you want your anodized product to be some color other than dark grey or black. One of the linked articles showed a bright orange/red carabiner that had been anodized. If you don't use dyes, simple chemistry dictates that
aluminum + anodizing process --> dark grey / black product
My guess is that Apple used NO DYE. However, knowing them, they probably wanted some very particular color -- "slate" in this case. So, they may have used some dye. BUT STILL... it just goes into the tank with the anodizing process. It just changes that "shell" from regular dark grey to special Apple-specified "slate" dark grey.
PLEASE tell me you understand now! Dyed or undyed, the anodized aluminum is still (very) scratchable. You'll see shiny metal aluminum if you go after it.
oh btw watch the vids of the "non dyed iphone while the super duper ive talks,they dye it" even if the vid is for show something that i doubt they do dye the phone something like the black slate you say and it peels off.![]()
Mate, perhaps I owe you an apology. Whereas you did say "peel" in previous posts, I just assumed you were struggling with the language and actually meaning "scratch." For that, my bad, I'm sorry.
FWIW, I sincerely wasn't trying to make excuses. In fact, other than the scratching and "scuffing" problems, I was unaware of any "peeling" problems. Can you (here or PM... don't care), send me a link? I am truly and genuinely interested in learning of this peeling. Cuz, if it's like the word makes my mind picture, that really does suck. I agree. That will make this my first iPhone to go in a freakin' thinness- and beauty-obviating case.
Thanks. Cheers. Peace to you too, mate.
He stated that it is obvious that if you turn on Airplane Mode (i.e. turn off all radios) that your battery life will improve. That is obvious.He didn't miss the point. As many people have stated, ALL phones are affected by this, and this is nothing new. On any iPhone before the 5 this was true. On any Android phone, this is true. On that POS Nokia that I used to have, this is true. Take a lesson from your own words and read carefully. No one is disputing the article is true, people are commenting on how obvious it is.
He was stating that normal radio use is likely the largest drain on the battery. He was illustrating one of the reasons WHY the article is so obvious.He stated that it is obvious that if you turn on Airplane Mode (i.e. turn off all radios) that your battery life will improve. That is obvious.
Yes.....it really is.However is it really that super obvious that battery life is heavily affected by signal strength?
Same here.
I went to the Apple Store yesterday, and the Genius was very insistent that he's seen this before from bad restores, where the software thinks it's an earlier iPhone and thus not managing power right and draining fast. He says I need to restore it as a fresh iPhone and it will work fine. i.e. dump my iCloud backups.
This isn't very acceptable to me as I have a lot of apps with their own data stores, and I really, really don't want to lose my text message history of the last 3-4 years. But, I'll give it a shot after spending a couple hours backing up stuff tomorrow.
I am seeing my battery drop at a rate of about 1 percent every 2 or 3 minutes
I have iCloud Safari sync off and LTE disabled.
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And that's exactly why he missed the point of the article.He was stating that normal radio use is likely the largest drain on the battery. He was illustrating one of the reasons WHY the article is so obvious.
Yes.....it really is.
Because he thinks the article is obvious? That doesn't make sense.And that's exactly why he missed the point of the article.
If it is then I'm sure you can find at least one article or white paper about it describing this behaviour amongst many different phones, prior to the iPhone 5 story.
Because I'm having a hard time to find anything.
None of those links are relevant.http://www.blackberryforums.com/gen...gnal-strength-affect-battery-performance.html
You realize that the very first link is to a forum much like this one discussing the issue on blackberries?
Also: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4125/understanding-the-verizon-iphone-4-announcement
Oh and from Nokia's troubleshooting site: http://www.nokia.com/us-en/support/...&topic=Power & charging&subtopic=Battery life
All from a simple google search.
None of those links are relevant.
The first link is about searching for networks, not weak signal.
The second one is about iPhone 4.
The third one doesn't mention anything about "weak signal", it only mentions varied signal and again, searching for networks.
Nice try though.
Voice over LTE has not yet been implemented by carriers (Verizon will start next year). Voice calls still use 3G.
My iPhone 4 didn't/doesn't do this. Not to this extent at least.
You contradict yourself.... Sentence one - My phone doesn't do this. Sentence two - It does do it but not as bad.
I didn't say every phone had the same battery drain from this low signal condition. What I said was every phone I've had suffers from this. I would expect the 5 to drain the battery faster because it has multiple radios. Just like the Sprint Evo I had did because of 3g and WiMax.
All this bickering is stupid.
If you feel your battery life is worse than it should be, contact Apple (or whoever made your phone). End of story.
Live in a no LTE location and since turning it off I'm sitting at 86% at 1:45pm since off charge at 6:15am. So 7 hours and I've lost 15%.. Huge difference when the phone isn't searching for LTE. Usage consists of pandora for a few hours, about 10 emails, 4-6 text messages and 2 short phone calls.. And this post.. Oh 85% now.