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iPhone 5 Benchmarks Appear in Geekbench Showing a Dual Core, 1GHz A6 CPU
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That awkward moment where someone spends time making an account to insult users of a different phone. Inferiority complex much?
No chance of it blowing up ol' chap. But by the sounds of it, that score just blew your mind.
Nah mate. We all knw android needs more proc and ram to run properly. And of course they can be over clocked.. But thanks. I'm all for stability and smoothness and no one can best apple on that front YET in my opinion. That, coming with such a powerful custom designed processor will be mind blowing! Of course you may have your own opinion on this.... Tried Siii, didn't like it. And again, personal preference.
Few comments
Few comments:
1 - Historically this benchmark hasn't been very useful when comparing iOS to Android devices. There are some discrepancies which make it a flawed comparison to use as a cross platform benchmark. Anandtech allude to this in their latest article.
2 - These benchmarks do not include the GPU. The GPU in the iPhone 4S (a full year old) is faster than the GPU in the American SG3. The International SG3 only beat it's GPU by around 10-15%, so the GPU in the new iPhone will blow the SG3 GPU away (in line with Apples 2x performance claim). Given that the operating system is GPU accelerated, this matters a lot - perhaps even more so than the CPU.
3 - Few comments on here saying that the iPhone 'should' be faster given that it's newer - well where were you when all the Android fans were comparing the SG3 to the iPhone 4S? The SG3 was released 3 and a half months ago - yet when it was a 9 month gap between phones you were very happy to start comparing specifications? If anything Samsung has barely caught up with the year old iPhone 4S.
4 - Again, as above - lets remember that the iPhone is the thinnest smartphone in the world - and one of the lightest, with superior battery life to the SG3 (as per Anandtech benchmarks & Apple's claim that battery life has improved). It has absolutely no right to destroy the performance of the 3 month older, heavier, fatter, wider, taller, inferior battery life Samsung Galaxy S3.
5 - Lets all remember that Android is far less optimised so greater performing hardware is needed just to break even.
6 - Those guys posting Geekbench scores - you can't change what the proven average rating for Samsung Galaxy S3 is - which is what the supposed iPhone 5 score is being compared to. You can argue that the one bit of data from the iPhone 5 isn't statistically solid - but you can't deny the average benchmark values of the Android phones.
Few comments:
1 - Historically this benchmark hasn't been very useful when comparing iOS to Android devices. There are some discrepancies which make it a flawed comparison to use as a cross platform benchmark. Anandtech allude to this in their latest article.
2 - These benchmarks do not include the GPU. The GPU in the iPhone 4S (a full year old) is faster than the GPU in the American SG3. The International SG3 only beat it's GPU by around 10-15%, so the GPU in the new iPhone will blow the SG3 GPU away (in line with Apples 2x performance claim). Given that the operating system is GPU accelerated, this matters a lot - perhaps even more so than the CPU.
3 - Few comments on here saying that the iPhone 'should' be faster given that it's newer - well where were you when all the Android fans were comparing the SG3 to the iPhone 4S? The SG3 was released 3 and a half months ago - yet when it was a 9 month gap between phones you were very happy to start comparing specifications? If anything Samsung has barely caught up with the year old iPhone 4S.
4 - Again, as above - lets remember that the iPhone is the thinnest smartphone in the world - and one of the lightest, with superior battery life to the SG3 (as per Anandtech benchmarks & Apple's claim that battery life has improved). It has absolutely no right to destroy the performance of the 3 month older, heavier, fatter, wider, taller, inferior battery life Samsung Galaxy S3.
5 - Lets all remember that Android is far less optimised so greater performing hardware is needed just to break even.
6 - Those guys posting Geekbench scores - you can't change what the proven average rating for Samsung Galaxy S3 is - which is what the supposed iPhone 5 score is being compared to. You can argue that the one bit of data from the iPhone 5 isn't statistically solid - but you can't deny the average benchmark values of the Android phones.
i usually don't, as you can see i just registered. i'm merely responding to all the iZombies posting insults.
so when a fellow Apple user insults people (over a phone?) it perfectly fine. but when someone responds they have inferiority complex? is that right? because that's what it seems.
like this guys here:
The above quote has since been slightly edited, but the fact remains that some people seem to have fried a noodle or two while dwelling on this forum. You can almost smell the passion coming out of that post. It's like a cave dweller finally finding a purpose for his life.
You got your first iPhone when you were 6 years old? Lucky girl!
Yeah! That's why I stopped buying BMW cars too. BMW rules on MY car! Why shouldn't I use a Ford key to start it and drive it backwards at 120mph if I want to!
You're entitled to your opinion of course, but you're not sounding terribly rational at this point. What if Apple released a phone next year your were satisfied with? Does this petulant hissy fit mean you will never again be able to buy the best phone for you?
Nope, no innovation. Wait, didn't they actually design their own processor core this time round?
Oriental is being reasonable but the Android fans on here are really desperate.
Benchmarks on a tweaked rooted phone with services turned off are not going to reflect the performance of the average user on an SIII.
At the end of the day, benchmarks don't mean a thing if the UI ends up being lag-city any phone running Android.
Sorry Android fans but regular people only care about the following:
1. USABILITY
2. Availability of games and apps.
3. Responsiveness of the UI.
4. Battery life.
If the iPhone 5 can deliver on Apple's promises of battery life with LTE enabled then they have a real winner on their hands compared with previous "Android" LTE handsets.
The fact that the iPhone supports so many frequencies is an added bonus as it will be useable in more countries as higher speeds than any other phone.
Benchmarks on a tweaked rooted phone with services turned off are not going to reflect the performance of the average user on an SIII.
At the end of the day, benchmarks don't mean a thing if the UI ends up being lag-city any phone running Android.
Sorry Android fans but regular people only care about the following:
1. USABILITY
2. Availability of games and apps.
3. Responsiveness of the UI.
4. Battery life.
If the iPhone 5 can deliver on Apple's promises of battery life with LTE enabled then they have a real winner on their hands compared with previous "Android" LTE handsets.
The fact that the iPhone supports so many frequencies is an added bonus as it will be useable in more countries as higher speeds than any other phone.
Posts like these are not only condescending but also full of ignorance.
Based on your false claims, you really need to watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zd-dqUuvLk4
Skip over to 5:06 and you'll quickly realize that apple did NOT in fact innovate anything with the iPhone.
With the clock speed, yes: 1.7 GHz blows 1.02 Ghz. And then again, only available in Q3 2013. Around that time, we have a new iPhone (september-october), with these cores in an A6X or an A7.
great post. the iphone 5 is by far the best phone. only someone irrational would buy an "high end" android phone at this point, unless they have money invested on android.
if that's the case, poor irrational fandroids.
There you go. Again with the ignorant insults. You realize you're on an
based site/forum. Hence the heavy bias. That's like going to a republican forum and expecting them to say nice things about Mr. Obama. LolIf I went on an Android forum right about now they'd be doing everything in their power to bash and insult us "iSheep". It's all quite ridiculous. Apple users don't really care all about raw specs, but they praise these numbers (specially if they come to light as being truthful) because it shuts the people who make a massive deal over "paper specs" and claim Apple is going to burn into the ground because Steve Jobs isn't with the Company anymore. You do realize It takes more then 1 man to engineer a product, and run a company? He was simply the face of Apples Marketing, and damn good at what he did.
You making an account just to argue with the "iZombies", and admiting it further proves my claim of the inferiority complex.
Edit: I'm actually intelligent enough to stay off of Android forums because telling them they are stupid for picking a certain device is irrelevant and a massive waste of time and energy. I don't go there because I realize they are free to make their own decisions and have reasons for picking Android over iOS or Windows. Nothing I say will make you think differently. Nothing you say will make me think differently. Go do something useful with your time. Your phone is so great and advanced, use it for something other then telling people what device to pick pal.
Some of that is true, I actually wanted a wider phone than the iPhone. which is why i moved from an iPhone 4s. But the GS3 actually has better battery life than the iPhone 4s. I'm not exactly sure where your inferior life claim came from. Even the professional reviews praised the GS3's battery life.
I remember when Apple announced the iPhone 4s, they promised better battery life over the iPhone 4. Which was false because the battery life went from great in the iPhone 4 to not so great in the 4s. In a few days we'll see if Apple BSed this time too.
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You making an account just to argue with the "iZombies", and admiting it further proves my claim of the inferiority complex.
OK, let's say I agree to that one. What would you say about the Apple users here(see, i was politically correct there) that were writing all sorts of insults on this thread? is it OK for them to do it? or are they equally at fault?
I asked this before and you completely avoided answering that. seems to me like you have double standards
Battery life is a legitimate question. If there are any apps harnessing all 4 cores, I'm sure it would chew thru it. I want more power, more ram, bigger screens... But what's most important is integration.
Looking for a car stereo, it's hard to find support for Android (want bluetooth display info). Too much OS variation: not so great actually.
What's the point of having a 4.3" screen and LTE if your 1.5 year old phone still doesn't support Hulu, hell it took a while to even get Netflix. It's cool having a 32GB micro SD...but it chokes up recording 720p video (needs a good class 10 I guess). Removable batteries are cool. Double the size just to make it through the day, but at least I could cheaply stock up on a bunch of $10 off-branders and not charge it for a week.
SIII vs. iPhone doesn't seem like a proper debate. It's comparing apples to inflatable apples. Quadcore/bonus ram sounds good for multitasking and photo/video editing. These phones need way better stabilization, or at the very least, work as a lag-free DSLR monitor. That's all I want. Otherwise, stats are meaningless to me.
here is a video of a bunch of regular people trying out the new iPhone 5. they seem to love the new features, the larger screen and the faster performance:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdIWKytq_q4
From my previous post, I made it bold for you, originally i figured it was easy enough to read on that big shiny screen you got there
I'm not defending anyone I'm just saying you go to an Apple based site what do you expect? If I were to go to an Android forum, you think I'd find any logical or valid points in support of the iPhone? Anymore then you do here for the S3? That's the problem with a lot of people. Blanket statements.
There you go. Again with the ignorant insults. You realize you're on an Apple based site/forum. Hence the heavy bias. That's like going to a republican forum and expecting them to say nice things about Mr. Obama. Lol
If I went on an Android forum right about now they'd be doing everything in their power to bash and insult us "iSheep". It's all quite ridiculous. Apple users don't really care all about raw specs, but they praise these numbers (specially if they come to light as being truthful) because it shuts the people who make a massive deal over "paper specs" and claim Apple is going to burn into the ground because Steve Jobs isn't with the Company anymore. You do realize It takes more then 1 man to engineer a product, and run a company? He was simply the face of Apples Marketing, and damn good at what he did.
So it's perfectly fine for them to insult people who don't worship the Apple logo and there is nothing wrong with them, but I have a superiority complex for calling them out on it. Got it. thanks for clearing that up! Now I know what I'm dealing with.
I love how you quote bits and pieces of the actual posts.
You missed this part
I'm not defending anyone I'm just saying you go to an Apple based site what do you expect?
And this part
If I went on an Android forum right about now they'd be doing everything in their power to bash and insult us "iSheep".
And this part
If I were to go to an Android forum, you think I'd find any logical or valid points in support of the iPhone? Anymore then you do here for the S3?
But it's ok troll more. Your ignorance is entertaining.
While this benchmark shows the iPhone 5 is noticeably faster than other iDevices, it doesn't necessarily show that it is faster than all Android devices. The score Geekbench puts forward for a device is the average of all scores compiled. Currently, only one iPhone 5 has been tested resulting in a "average" score of 1601. Compare this to the GS3 where the average score is a 1588 based off of 116 devices. This can make a huge difference because of variations device to device or test to test. Scores on the GS3 range from ~1100 to ~2200. Until more benchmarks have been run on the iPhone 5, this comparison doesn't show anything.
"The A6's score also puts it ahead of Android device benchmarks. For example, the Samsung Galaxy S III with a Samsung Exynos 4412 quad-core chip rated at 1.4GHz posted a score of 1588, compared to the A6's 1,601."
This information is factually ***WRONG***
A STOCK Galaxy S3 will easily score 1800+ Several hundred points higher than an iPhone 5.
That Galaxy S3 score is an AVERAGE and is not relevant. It is made up of people who accidentally took the benchmark with power saving turned on ( or some other battery saver app which underclocks your CPU or disables cores ect )
I just took a benchmark with powersaving turned ON and scored ~1400 - I have now, ever so slightly, lowered the average.
Conversely there are an even smaller percentage of people with rooted and overclocked S3's raising the average.
Because of this the average is not a relevant metric.
If you go out and buy a STOCK Galaxy S3 ( no overclock nothing fancy ) you will definitely score in the 1800's beating the iPhone 5 by several hundred points.
"The A6's score also puts it ahead of Android device benchmarks. For example, the Samsung Galaxy S III with a Samsung Exynos 4412 quad-core chip rated at 1.4GHz posted a score of 1588, compared to the A6's 1,601."
This information is factually ***WRONG***
A STOCK Galaxy S3 will easily score 1800+ Several hundred points higher than an iPhone 5.
That Galaxy S3 score is an AVERAGE and is not relevant. It is made up of people who accidentally took the benchmark with power saving turned on ( or some other battery saver app which underclocks your CPU or disables cores ect )
I just took a benchmark with powersaving turned ON and scored ~1400 - I have now, ever so slightly, lowered the average.
Conversely there are an even smaller percentage of people with rooted and overclocked S3's raising the average.
Because of this the average is not a relevant metric.
If you go out and buy a STOCK Galaxy S3 ( no overclock nothing fancy ) you will definitely score in the 1800's beating the iPhone 5 by several hundred points.
Coming from an Andorid and iOS - iFanAppledroid fan,this seems like the most reasonable post in this thread.
I browse Macrumors/XDA/and Android Central as my top 3 frequently visited sites and its the same with all three. XDA/AndroidCentral bashing "iSheep" and Macrumors bashing fandroids. This is the beauty of the US market - competition; and without it we'd all be stuck at an iPhone 3G or Nexus
Did you write this to feel better or to specify something we all know. Its a slick phone that has an ecosystem that rocks. Samsung makes hardware but can't even get an OS up and running so they use bloatware android os.
So do you feel better now, sound like its a religion for you when it comes to either samsung or android. I personally like the iPhone, I really don't care if you don't child, but at the same time I feel sorry for the child who is not happy with what they have.
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Sound good, like the numbers but dislike the look and feel of plastic phones. Feels cheap in the hand. Over all if you like it and have no regrets then your fine. QuadCore sound funny, I know its mostly for that live desktop, which does look cool but a bit distracting. How is the battery life. I know its removable. Real battery life not PR version?
I don't like the live desktop.
The phone has been running for about 10 hours with moderate usage plus three runs of geekbench. Wifi and bluetooth on. Battery is at 72%. About the only thing I don't like is how slippery the phone is. But I wouldn't use any new phone without a cover anyway.
Boony
What a fatuous post. Yes, by this line of reasoning no one has ever innovated, but built on the work of others before them. Platitudinous much?
I merely stated Apple had designed their own processor core this time round which is an undisputed fact and neither false, ignorant nor condescending. The rest of my post poked fun at the guy I was replying to as he's been trolling this thread relentlessly with his nonsense.