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iPhone 5 Benchmarks Appear in Geekbench Showing a Dual Core, 1GHz A6 CPU

pandamonia said:
I find it funny how badly Apple Fanboys will defend a score posted by a Phone not even on the market yet but then try and bash the better scores of the S3.

I hit 1800 not even trying. i just downloaded it and ran it off battery power without optimisations. heck i had shed load of stuff running at the time too.

Not to mention that im using an unfinished version of Jelly bean which will only get better when officially released.
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so you still dont acknowledge the apple feat here?

quadcore 1.4ghz vs dualcore 1 ghz - same score +/- 10%

you gotta give credit where its due no matter which company you prefer.

well, after all, you're an idiot, so no point in discussing it.

move along.
 
Some hilarious posts in this thread - especially the ones with the doctored images :). Shame that the facts get in the way of the fanboyism though. Not that I'm helping by posting this, but it's all good fun :D.

No doubt the new iPhone is going to be quick. This is a fast moving technology so it would be incredible if it wasn't. Just like the next Nexus or Galaxy or Nokia is going to be faster too. No need to worry or take some sort of victory out of it. It's all beneficial for everyone.

ok - so had to run geekbench on my Galaxy S 3, but as lots have already said these tests are synthetic and not consistent across platforms (or even within the same platform...), so please don't go creating mock ads or getting upset. It's only numbers...:p


http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/1038481
 
opmisk said:
I can't imagine a more inaccurate perception. That's like saying most guns are used for killing people.

It's very easy, if you don't have knowledge about a topic, don't post.
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I'm sure you can't this is my first day on the internet.. I will post what ever I want whether YOU think its accurate or not.
 
in ur face iBoys apple sux ! Don't pay extra for a 1Gig DC device


admit iPhone 5 is slower than SGS3
 
Demonofelru said:
Most != all the person said nothing for anyone to assume anything he was doing was illegal. To the second, neither I'm quite possibly the most straight edged 26 year old in the world, haven't even touched a cigarette.
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Apparently you never learned to read dude.

I quote from my own post:

"why do people insist on calling others "dude" and "bro" sound like your either 14 or stoned.. probably both."

So you call people "dude" and "bro" has nothing to do with being 14 or stoned? Guess its just poor etiquette.
 
George Knighton said:
Who the bleeding hell tries to use a 50,000-cell spreadsheet on a 4" screen?

I don't know about that...that sounds extremely odd, and you presented it as if it could be a frequent enough occurrence to give us pause.

Perhaps I am the one out of step, but I don't think so.

I deal with figures all day long, and I'd never do that. For one thing, I'd question the security, but that's another thing.
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Clearly you missed, or ignored the :D at the end of my post. :rolleyes:

To state the obvious, no one has that big a spreadsheet on a smartphone. A large spreadsheet that needs recalculated is one example of an application where a fast CPU would be of benefit. To state the obvious again, what value does a fast CPU (not GPU) have on a smartphone, i.e., other than a 'mine is bigger than yours' comparison?
 
After reading the whole thread, I decided to register here and put my two cents in here, as hardcore user of Sony-Ericsson k800i (ETA of new phone: NEVER) reading news from smartphone market.

First of all, IMHO people like "android fans tears licker" or guy "(p)assing out because iPhone scored more in one benchmark" (I know it's made up but it's only an example, also I didn't bother to quote 10-page old posts) should be put up in front of the wall and executed with .50 cal. DELETE command for wasting oxygen without giving anything smart in return.

To my point: Yes, iPhone 5 scored almost the same result as S3 in benchmark, despite having dual-core, low-frequency, new gen CPU (that's the reason, wait for more devices with this processor) - fact, unless the result is fake. The problem is it has ONLY the same score as S3. Probably the new CPU has humongous reserves of power, but apple decided to castrate it to 1 GHz for unknown reasons (battery life? problems with heat dispersion?). It could possibly kick ass with scores over 2000 or more without sweat...

I always thought/heard that Apple is world's most innovative and amazing company, with things like iPad, iPhone etc that revolutionized the world blahblahblah. Maybe, but I don't see this anymore. iPhone was called a "runner-up" to other phones (Android isn't the only platform out there, HELLO!), and it still IS, new flagship phone not distancing opponents by a mile? New flagship phone without technological gizmos? BY WORLD'S MOST INNOVATIVE COMPANY? Look at S3 (and Lumia?) - it's LOADED with new technology (NFC, wireless charging, etc.) - shouldn't that be Apple's cut? Now it looks like the new big thing is definitely already here (S3, despite it's incredibly UGLY and it's a step backwards to elegant S2's design). Not to mention fact that in 3-5 months new devices will come, with better CPUs and better stuff (I hope HTC will show something good), and iPhone will be behind again.

To prove this let's look at the phone that is actually the thinnest smartphone ever created - the OPPO Finder (6,6mm). New version has been revealed - it has 5 inch (yes, kinda too big but NO, it's NOT AN EAR TABLET) 1920x1080 screen with 441 ppi (hai ppi lovers), 2GB RAM, new Snapdragon S4 (in theory better than S3's CPU), 12mpix in front and 2500mAh battery. Yes, it's only specs, but better screen with better ppi, bigger camera and better battery in thin body - isn't that Apple's, not some chinese company's, thing too? Where's the innovation? Where's the amazingness factor? Showing a phone that could be called iPhone 45 seriously doesn't fit Apple...
 
KnightWRX said:
Did you guys spend all night and 32 pages arguing that Cortex A15 is more advanced than Cortex A9 ?

Really ?

:eek:
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It's not confirmed to be an A15 though is it? Anandtech reckon it's a "custom" design but then they were idly speculating that it must be an A15 soon after it was announced so who knows.

But in a nutshell all these arguments can be condensed down to:

* New Android flagship beats iPhone? "Specs don't matter"
* New iPhone beats Android flagship? "Hahaha in your face Fandroids!!"
* Faster Android phones released six months later? "Specs don't matter"

Rinse. Repeat.
 
I dont see what the big deal "dual-core" vs "quad-core". :confused:

You can architect a chip to run arbitrarily fast on embarassingly parallel benchmarks like Geekbench.

The Macbook Pro 13 "only" has a dual-core processor but if you ported the GeekBench mobile suite to Core i3, it'd run hundreds of time faster than either the Galaxy S3 or iPhone 5.

Not that impressive.
 
Oriental said:
I've said it before but I'll say it again - Geekbench results on different operating systems are not comparable.

That a software change would change the score just proves this - a hardware benchmark should do just that - benchmark hardware.

We can't conclude anything from these numbers, not that iPhone is faster, not that SG3 is faster - all we can conclude is that the new iPhone is significantly faster than previous iPhones and the new iPad (since they run the same OS).

We'll have to wait for the Anandtech benchmarks before we decide which CPU is faster - but GPU wise the iPhone will come out much faster.
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Raw hardware, I'd be staggered if the SG3 wasn't faster, but it's not about just the hardware, it's about the OS, and how well it performs on the hardware. iOS has the edge in performance, and it's no surprise really. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if some butthurt fandroids saw this over night, and installed some bare bones kernel on their phones that no one is actually running in order to boost the numbers.
 
sampath said:
It's not confirmed to be an A15 though is it? Anandtech reckon it's a "custom" design but then they were idly speculating that it must be an A15 soon after it was announced so who knows.

But in a nutshell all these arguments can be condensed down to:

* New Android flagship beats iPhone? "Specs don't matter"
* New iPhone beats Android flagship? "Hahaha in your face Fandroids!!"
* Faster Android phones released six months later? "Specs don't matter"

Rinse. Repeat.
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http://www.anandtech.com/show/6292/iphone-5-a6-not-a15-custom-core
 
To those who can't get why is this a BIG deal:

Firstly, lets talk about the battery on the iPhone 5. Its a freaking 1400 MAH battery, way lesser than your 2100+ (I think?) MAH battery on the Galaxy S3.
And the S3 had a quad core processor, while the A6 is said to have a dual core processor.
Cores do not determine how efficient and powerful a processor will be. From a chip designer and programmer's standpoint, we always prioritize the architecture first. Gains in architecture will lead to extreme gains in battery and performance without sacrifice them . Then, we then look at the number of cores and the clock speed so on.
From here, Apple seem to have adopted a custom designed Apple architecture. While an A15 architecture is not confirmed yet, it is still safe to say that it is designed by Apple to be as efficient and powerful as possible.

The point I want to push forward is that although the iPhone 5 simply had a dual core processor and a much smaller battery than the SGS3, battery efficiency and performance still outweighs the Exynos 4. This is a big deal. And although you may say that the Galaxy S3 had a bigger screen and thus need more power and performance to drive the screen, we must remember that Samsung often touted their Super AMOLED screens to be extremely power efficient.
And also, as for the performance standpoint, if Apple is able to utilize the A5 chip to power the iPad 2, and utilize the same chip to run the 4S with equal performance, I'll say display isn't a huge problem for chips at all with the exclusion of the new iPad. But hey, the A5X isn't a slouch either.
 
Gambolputty said:
Yes, it's only specs, but better screen with better ppi, bigger camera and better battery in thin body - isn't that Apple's, not some chinese company's, thing too? Where's the innovation? Where's the amazingness factor? Showing a phone that could be called iPhone 45 seriously doesn't fit Apple...
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You are right, it is only spec and, unlike geeks, people don't care about processor, they care about how fluid phone feels. And believe it or not but nobody uses callipers nor rulers to make buying decision ;)

I had pleasure using Galaxy S3 and it is good handset. Unfortunately it is nowhere close as fluid as iPhone4 is, not to mention iPhone 4S. It can have better spec and be better at benchmarks but if I can't see it in everyday life I don't care.

Similar feelings with Nexus 7. It is good, feels fast and well built. But second after you try iPad 3 you'll see how inferior Google's tablet is. iPad feels snappier, browser is more responsive, quality and selection of apps is second to none etc.etc. I appreciate Nexus is half price and I guess you get what you paid for.
 
PeopleTheseDays said:
Not sure why everyone is going crazy worrying about specs right now...I thought Apple users don't care about specs...(unless we're is winning of course, I forgot).

I don't believe the fact that the A6 is faster than the Exynos or Tegra chip is that interesting. Great, a next-generation architecture is better than a 1+ year old cortex-A9 architecture, how amazing, lets all care about specs now :rolleyes:.

The real comparison that should be pointed out is the HTC One S, which looks to be the only Snapdragon S4 chip on that list of Android benchmarks. Both are current-generation, customized cores (both dual), and the A6 distances itself pretty far ahead with 50% less clock speed.

If this leak is real, the A6 should be a very interesting contender for the next year with the upcoming cortex-A15 based chipsets. Good job Apple.
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I concur. Raw numbers don't really matter since iOS is more efficient than Android when processor speed is concerned.

If this is true numbers, or just a hint of what the A6 can do in a dual core lower clocked chip at 1Ghz. The engineering of the A6 is way ahead. It would indicate it's ahead of not only the S4, but the next gen Cortex A15 as well. As the A15 and S4 are thought to have similar performance numbers clock for clock. Both are of the same gen.

Is the A6 a leapfrog gen chip? At 1Ghz, it is beating handily a 1.5Ghz Snapdragon S4. Clocked at %50 higher. If the A6 was clocked at 1.5Ghz, you might see 2400 geekbench scores! Compare that to the 1200 of the snapdragon S4, that would mean the A6 is almost twice as quick clock for clock! Even the next gen Android phones with A15 cortex SOC's will not be able to meet the A6 head on clock for clock. Therefore they will require bigger batteries, draw more power since they will have to up the clock speeds to meet the performance of the A6. So no, even the next gen Android devices will not equal the performance and efficiency of the A6.


Quad core A6. Now ask youself what would the numbers be? 4000? Single threaded performance the A6 is the king of the hill right now and maybe for the immediate future. As the A15 chips probably will not be able to match the A6 clock for clock on performance.

Can you say engineering! It seems they have a very talented crew on their hands at apple.
 
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iamthedudeman said:
I concur. Raw numbers don't really matter since iOS is more efficient than Android when processor speed is concerned.

If this is true numbers, or just a hint of what the A6 can do in a dual core lower clocked chip at 1Ghz. The engineering of the A6 is way ahead. It would indicate it's ahead of not only the S4, but the next gen Cortex A15 as well. As the A15 and S4 are thought to have similar performance numbers clock for clock. Both are of the same gen.

Is the A6 a leapfrog gen chip? At 1Ghz, it is beating handily a 1.5Ghz Snapdragon S4. Clocked at %50 higher. If the A6 was clocked at 1.5Ghz, you might see 2400 geekbench scores! Compare that to the 1200 of the snapdragon S4, that would mean the A6 is almost twice as quick clock for clock! Even the next gen Android phones with A15 cortex SOC's will not be able to meet the A6 head on clock for clock. Therefore they will require bigger batteries, draw more power since they will have to up the clock speeds to meet the performance of the A6. So no, even the next gen Android devices will not equal the performance and efficiency of the A6.


Quad core A6. Now ask youself what would the numbers be? 4000? Single threaded performance the A6 is the king of the hill right now and maybe for the immediate future. As the A15 chips probably will not be able to match the A6 clock for clock on performance.

Can you say engineering! It seems they have a very talented crew on their hands at apple.
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Everything you said in this post was complete rubbish.

A15 isnt even in a phone yet. Krait S4 has been out ages and isnt A15 level performance.

You also cannot compare OS to OS scores apparently in Geekbench Even though the S3 gets 1800 v 1600 iPhone 5.

And the Screen takes the most Battery usage in the S3 over everything else its 4.8" and far higher number of pixels. LED is more efficient in larger screen sizes as you dont have to power the light in individual pixels.

My iPad 3 battery sucks ass and so did the iPhone 4S.
 
beosound3200 said:
so you still dont acknowledge the apple feat here?

quadcore 1.4ghz vs dualcore 1 ghz - same score +/- 10%

you gotta give credit where its due no matter which company you prefer.

well, after all, you're an idiot, so no point in discussing it.

move along.
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If you look at pure CPU scores the A6 isnt that fast. It gets lots of points for vastly improved memory bandwidth.

I wouldnt put to much faith in the CPU power its self until more tests have been run. Its funny how one leaked bench has the iSheep proclaiming the second coming of christ lands on friday.
 
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