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No sources can be trusted. We will only know the truth when Apple presents it's keynote speech on Tuesday. Until then nothing that is reported whether it's through third parties or Apple software is all rumour and speculation. You can believe what you want as far as I'm concerned Tuesday's keynote speech is when we will get the actual truth behind Apple's plans.

I'm pretty sure apple is a reliable source for information about apple products
 
I'm pretty sure apple is a reliable source for information about apple products

My point just because there is information listed regards an iPhone 4S doesn't preclude the existence and launch of an iPhone 5. You're assuming that only a 4S is going to be launched. That may well be but no one including you know that outside of Apple if it is true. You're just making an assumption.
 
this should be interesting..

http://twitpic.com/6smspt

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not saying it's real or not..but here's to hoping!
 
They would intentionally leak a 4S to lower expectations ahead of the announcement. Just like how they always forecast lower quarterly profits so they can exceed their expectations.

My point is that Apple has not done enough to lower the hype of the iPhone 5. Remember how they shot down the rumors of a Sept 7th announcement by using very legit news sites such as AllthingsD and The Loop? And how every rumor site was reporting that no new hardware was being released in WWDC 2011. That's much more aggressive than the lame things we have heard so far: which is few rumors here and there saying 4S and an iTunes beta leak.

If Apple didn't want to disappoint, they would have shot down any rumors of a redesign at least in September via legit news sites like The Loop and AllthingsD to make sure that the public and investors aren't disappointed. They wouldn't have let the hype grow into what it is today.

An interesting theory; hopefully it's right!

As for Apple using The Loop and AllThingsD to spread news (Oct 4th announcement taking place at Apple Campus) and lower hype in the past (WWDC, Sept. 7th), I'd definitely agree. That's why I am curious about John Gruber's post on the subject. He prefaces it by saying he doesn't know, but I don't know if I believe him. He very well may be trying to lower the hype level, but I can't say for sure.
 
My point just because there is information listed regards an iPhone 4S doesn't preclude the existence and launch of an iPhone 5. You're assuming that only a 4S is going to be launched. That may well be but no one including you know that outside of Apple if it is true. You're just making an assumption.

No, I am speculating that only an iPhone 4s is coming out. The assumption I made was that this is NOT an intentional leak (evidenced by the immediate pull of the beta once it was noticed). I then speculated that only the 4S is going to be released because (ASSUMING it was not leaked intentionally and this code was meant to be released after the 4th) it would make no sense for them to only include code for just the 4S if there were in fact two new iPhones coming out.

Also, everyone on this website is just guessing. I never claimed that I was doing anything beyond that. The only thing that we can now confirm is that there IS and iPhone 4S coming out.
 
No, I am speculating that only an iPhone 4s is coming out. The assumption I made was that this is NOT an intentional leak (evidenced by the immediate pull of the beta once it was noticed). I then speculated that only the 4S is going to be released because (ASSUMING it was not leaked intentionally and this code was meant to be released after the 4th) it would make no sense for them to only include code for just the 4S if there were in fact two new iPhones coming out.

Also, everyone on this website is just guessing. I never claimed that I was doing anything beyond that. The only thing that we can now confirm is that there IS and iPhone 4S coming out.

Fair enough but that doesn't mean there isn't also an iPhone 5 coming out. All we can do is speculate. We won't know for sure until Apple's keynote.
 
can anyone tell if that pic is close to what actual labels look like?

Yes, this is what an actual label looks like. I just checked my iPhone 4 box. In fact, the reason they probably blacked out everything is that they took a picture of the iPhone 4 label and changed the 4 to a 5.

I'd have to assume that is a Canadian label because we have to have both English and French on our product boxes.
 
For the record, I am Cory L.

The second leak by Randy K. of the iPhone 4S must be a fake. I did not see anything about that device on the website even during the many refreshes I did when the story aired.

Furthermore, I was not able to click the "+View details" button. It directed me to a 404 page.

Thanks!
 
Look, I want a redesigned iPhone just as much as everyone else, and am still holding out hope mainly because of the cases that have been arriving at AT&T stores...I'm crossing my fingers, but not holding my breath.

Fair enough but that doesn't mean there isn't also an iPhone 5 coming out. All we can do is speculate. We won't know for sure until Apple's keynote.

As I said before, I am also holding out hope, and no one will know until the 4th. But, sources more reliable than me are saying what we are all hoping won't happen
 
People honestly think of apple like paranoid schizophrenics think about the government. The medical term for what people on this forum are doing is Denial/Bargaining. Trying to postulate how it could work out if x, y and z happen.

I understand what you are saying and I hope that your reasoning is correct (which is plausible, but again, sounds like bargaining).

But as I said before, I'm crossing my fingers but not holding my breath.

Well, if that's what you think "analysis" of Apple and Apple rumors is, then you're on the wrong site mate!

I just see it as a difference in opinions. You have your opinion, I have mine. To me, my opinion sounds more logical, but I guess you will say that's because I'm narcissistic, eh? ;)
 
Yes, this is what an actual label looks like. I just checked my iPhone 4 box. In fact, the reason they probably blacked out everything is that they took a picture of the iPhone 4 label and changed the 4 to a 5.

I'd have to assume that is a Canadian label because we have to have both English and French on our product boxes.

they also woulda had to pull the 64 from somewhere to place it as we don't have a 64 gb iPhone as of now
 
For the record, I am Cory L.

The second leak by Randy K. of the iPhone 4S must be a fake. I did not see anything about that device on the website even during the many refreshes I did when the story aired.

Furthermore, I was not able to click the "+View details" button. It directed me to a 404 page.

Thanks!

Welcome to MacRumors Cory, and thanks for the pic!

Can you still see the page? Or have they taken it down already?
 
Welcome to MacRumors Cory, and thanks for the pic!

Can you still see the page? Or have they taken it down already?

I believe it is down now, as it surely isn't on my screen.
And I assume it may be on Google cache if a crawler got onto it in time.
 
low end iphone is coming worldwide, its been apples plan for a very long time

market penetration is what its all about
 
Note: THIS IS FAKE

Just proving to you all what Chrome can do. You will not see any photoshopping. I could have just as easily made it an 'iPhone 5 64GB' and put a picture in, but I figured that would get spread across the web as 'real'.

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Don't believe everything thats posted. Even if it isn't photoshopped.
 
Note: THIS IS FAKE

Just proving to you all what Chrome can do. You will not see any photoshopping. I could have just as easily made it an 'iPhone 5 64GB' and put a picture in, but I figured that would get spread across the web as 'real'.

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Don't believe everything thats posted. Even if it isn't photoshopped.

Agh. Photoshop has seriously been both a boon and a menace to society. It seriously makes me doubt all the pictures I see online.

I also think that it is because of Photoshop that we didn't see any "leaked" pictures of iPhone 5. Why would a Chinese worker or blogger risk being thrown in a Chinese jail over a picture of an iPhone 5 that many won't believe anyway?
 
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