iPhone 5 has stiff competition before it's released.

[Sir Ruben]

Most people dont care about specs hence the popularity of the iPhone brand.

An example: I had a SGS2 running side by side with my year older iPhone 4. Yet the technically inferior iPhone 4 still gave the more fluid smooth experience. Not to mention a more refined OS.

A person I know just bought an Atrix, the first app he installed crashed the phone to such a point that it had to be completely restored.

So with that in mind why should I care about the spec of any Android if it does nothing to create a more enjoyable experience than my iPhone 4?

The fact that so many Android users come on here to preach how great this weeks latest Android handset is tells you quite a lot in itself. Im so happy with my iPhone that I have never felt compelled to try and convert other people by registering up with an Android forum.

No matter how you try to spin it, if you are an Android user and you have signed up to an iPhone forum to state how good Android is then deep down, regardless of specs, you feel insecure with your purchase and feel the need to defend your choice.

 

[MythicFrost]

The iPhone 5 will likely be equal with those smartphones CPU-wise, but trump them greatly GPU-wise. The SGX543MP2 will be tough to beat. Assuming of course, Apple uses the MP2 and not just a single SGX543 in the iPhone 5.

 

[VulchR]

Here we go again - more Samsung versus Apple threads. The OP seems really committed to Android/Samsung because of the technical capabilities of the new Android phones (if indeed those capabilities do materialize). On my part I think there is a reason why iPhones are turned on when they are displayed in mobile phone stores, while Android phones are not: the user experience of the iPhone is captivating while Android stills seems a little primitive. One more thing: Google provides Android for 'free', except in life nothing is free. Google are getting something out of it, most likely covert collection of personal information to be used for marketing and advertising. At least Apple is up front about what it wants from you: money (and a limited amount of personal information).

 

[Robby S]

No matter how you try to spin it, if you are an Android user and you have signed up to an iPhone forum to state how good Android is then deep down, regardless of specs, you feel insecure with your purchase and feel the need to defend your choice.

Could not have said it better myself. Like you I have never felt the need to register with an Android forum to defend my purchase decision.

You are right in what you say about the fluidity too. They can say what they like about the specs, but I've played Angry Birds on a GSII and the experience was choppy to say the least. So was the browsing experience. That's all that matters to me, what I experience as an end user, not what is under the hood.

 

[Skika]

OP is a good example of someone who still doesnt get it what sells phones ( or other computing devices) these days.

Those days of sheer specs comparisons are over. Apple raised the bar and companies cant just cramp another better this and more of that and call it a new "xy2034 e83".

 

[Sir Ruben]

OP is a good example of someone who still doesnt get it what sells phones ( or other computing devices) these days.

Those days of sheer specs comparisons are over. Apple raised the bar and companies cant just cramp another better this and more of that and call it a new "xy2034 e83".

Exactly. Android handset makers are still missing the point, nobody cares about specs anymore, Apple know this and have proved that it means nothing to the end user. Besides why would they greatly up the specs to try and impress when iOS 5 runs perfectly fine on an iPhone 4? The only thing that would result in is battery drain.

You can have a quad-core, 8gig, 42" 3D widescreen phone with a buit in network drive but if the experience isnt improved then whats the point?

This is the reason Apple will continue to do so well.

 

[vitzr]

From what you're saying, every best-spec'd smartphone would be #1. But obviously that isn't true.

The fact of the matter is, it's not about specs only, it's mainly about the experience the phone delivers. The iPhone delivers the best smartphone experience to their customers, hence it's the best consumer smartphone in the market, and has been for years.

The only way Samsung can beat Apple, is if they beat Apple in providing excellent experience, which is very tough.

I agree. However what many people here are unaware of through no fault of their own, is just how great the user experience is with the new Galaxy S2 being released on the major carriers over the next two weeks.

The gap has narrowed dramatically based on my first hand experience with both platforms. I'd like nothing better than to be able to claim my iPhone 4, and the upcoming iPhone 5 as significantly superior, but that's not quite the case.

The new notifications are a clear copy of Androids which is a huge step for Apple but not revolutionary. They will impress iPhone users not Android users. And while obviously none of us has used an iPhone 5 yet, I have a strong suspicion Apple is saving the real improvements for iPhone 6.

One thing we do know about 5, which has been repeated over and over, is it will sell like crazy no matter what it does or doesn't have. Only a small part of the iPhone community actually are enthusiasts of the latest technologies.

 

[Stealthipad]

The SG2 likely already exceeds the iPhone 5 but that is not so important. There is plenty of room for both phones. I predict that the Windows phones will be the up and coming phone OS for next year.

We shall all see.

 

[Sir Ruben]

I agree. However what many people here are unaware of through no fault of their own, is just how great the user experience is with the new Galaxy S2 being released on the major carriers over the next two weeks.

The gap has narrowed dramatically based on my first hand experience with both platforms. I'd like nothing better than to be able to claim my iPhone 4, and the upcoming iPhone 5 as significantly superior, but that's not quite the case.

The new notifications are a clear copy of Androids which is a huge step for Apple but not revolutionary. They will impress iPhone users not Android users. And while obviously none of us has used an iPhone 5 yet, I have a strong suspicion Apple is saving the real improvements for iPhone 6.

One thing we do know about 5, which has been repeated over and over, is it will sell like crazy no matter what it does or doesn't have. Only a small part of the iPhone community actually are enthusiasts of the latest technologies.

I agree with you the customer satisfaction of iPhone users is very very high. While Apple continue to deliver such a refined experience its understandable that they will continue to remain so popular even in the face of competition which in many cases are dishing out free handsets as fast as possible.

I had my Samsung Galaxy S II for free, so they must be paying users to have the lesser spec Androids LOL

 

[vitzr]

I had my Samsung Galaxy S II for free, so they must be paying users to have the lesser spec Androids LOL

Actually you may be confusing the lower spec Androids with the high end models which are selling rapidly at the same price as IPhone 4.

Respectfully I understand you clearly don't like the Android platform. It's not for everyone that's for sure.

However as I see it, the competition is good for Apple and good for us as consumers. Personally I'm truly enjoying my Galaxy S 2 more than I expected. Yet that said, you will not see me bashing the iPhone. I embrace change, competition, and have been an Apple customer for over two decades. I was a customer as they nearly became extinct and I'm glad I stayed with them. My stock value today is simply staggering. Little did I realize as I toyed with what was a very low priced stock then, buying huge amounts for the long term, just how valuable it would become.

For that reason alone I've already made it and these products will have little impact either way.

 

[Sir Ruben]

Actually you may be confusing the lower spec Personally I'm truly enjoying my Galaxy S 2 more than I expected. Yet that said, you will not see me bashing the iPhone.

I thought it was a very good handset, if you check out the link in my sig I think I mentioned that if you like the Android OS then it was probably the one to go for.

What i find strange though is Android users preaching in an iPhone forum. Very strange behavior for someone who says they have made the leap to android and are loving it. I know if it were me, and I switched from one product to one I genuinely loved more Id probably never look back and never be heard from again.

Sounds like Android converts cant help but continue to keep one eye on the Apple camp. This goes back to my earlier comment about an underlying level of insecurity on the platform of choice.

 

[BlindMellon]

One thing we do know about 5, which has been repeated over and over, is it will sell like crazy no matter what it does or doesn't have. Only a small part of the iPhone community actually are enthusiasts of the latest technologies.

I agree, but I think Apple can only milk this for one generation (i.e. the iPhone 4s). Beyond that, even your average Joe is going to start questioning Apple's motives and why they aren't "keeping up".

When the news, critics, reviews hit MSNBC then everyone hears about it. My wife, who knows nothing about tech and prefers her LG 'slider' phone over my iPhone, even knows the next iPhone is coming out soon. MSNBC will enlighten the masses....

 

[realitycheck69]

It's funny how last summer everyone was talking about how the retina screen was going to destroy the competition. Now that other phones are coming out with 720p resolution, it's "not a big deal" or "overkill".

Same thing is happening to apple that happened in the early 90's vs. Windows. They got lazy and ended up getting crushed.

Apple starts revolutions/niches but rarely finishes them.

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Sounds like Android converts cant help but continue to keep one eye on the Apple camp.

Of course. A new iphone is about to be released--4-5 months behind schedule as well. What techie wouldn't be interested?

 

[Sir Ruben]

Of course. A new iphone is about to be released--4-5 months behind schedule as well. What techie wouldn't be interested?

Any techie would know that Apple dont do the big stats thing so I would have thought that their attention should be on what new Android handset is out this week rather than what the next iPhone will offer.

I would have thought that the "it just works" attitude of Apple is very anti-techie, hence the reason IOS isnt as customisable as Android.

Thats the thing, customers like the "it just works" nature of the iPhone hence the reason they are bought by the masses. Thats something that will probably never change.

EDIT: Annnnyway, not sure why Im even commenting as im 100% confident on my purchase hence the reason that I dont usually bother with these kinds of topics. Total waste of time.

 

[LordGav1n]

Competition is good.

When it takes 2 years to implement a feature that most other phones have you better bring something more than just that feature for the next handset. Go big or go home. Hopefully Apple's competition will spur better innovation

 

[The Californian]

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Specs is an evil word here?

 

[dccorona]

sorry...4.3" is pushing it. 4.65" is just too big.

and theres a reason specs don't matter: iOS is a native OS on iPhones, Android is run inside a java emulator over a linux shell. An android phone has to be more powerful than an iPhone to match it performance-wise. Whether or not the specs of these android phones will be enough to match the performance of the iPhone 5 and then some, I don't know. But the fact remains that the iPhone performs better/equally with lower specs