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The 5S will have plenty of worthy upgrades. The only people who WON'T be upgrading will be the people who cannot financially make it work (either through upgrade or otherwise).

Unless it has a teeny tiny "scuff" on it. Then all bets are off because: minor cosmetic damage > ALL other improvements combined...

:rolleyes:

Please tell me more about how you know what people will do/not do.

:rolleyes:
 
I don't like how the 5s will look identical to the 5. It would b nice if there were a distinguishing difference for bragging rights. I may upgrade then. But for "better camera, NFC and biometrics, I won't upgrade from 5-5s
 
I don't have a 5 but I have a 4s and plan on upgrading to the 5s. Most likely it will have to wait until October since that is when I am due for an upgrade; however, maybe the next iPhone won't be released until September so it won't be too much of a wait.
 
Please tell me more about how you know what people will do/not do.

:rolleyes:

Ok.

People will do overwhelmingly what they have done before (upgrade). They will do so not because there is anything WRONG with their old phones, but because there is an innate need to have the latest and greatest ANYTHING, and only a handful of grumpy people (besides those that have a financial motivator like a lack of upgrade) will not.

Would you like to subscribe to my newsletter since you are so clearly unaware of basic human behavior?

:rolleyes:
 
I'm very tempted to walk into an Apple Store tomorrow and buy a 5, but I know better. Kinda.

I'm really eyeing other phones ATM.

I like the customization of a Galaxy S 4. After having used and loved my Nexus 7 for almost a year, I can see myself with an HTC One or GS4.

But because the disparity in app quality is so great I'd probably buy me first iPad. But that's neither there nor here.

In any case, my 4S runs Real Racing 3 like a champ, so I'm gravy until Real Racing 4.
 
If my area gets LTE I will probably upgrade my 4S to a 5S. If not I'll probably stick with the 4S for a while longer and get the 6 or whatever is better by then.
 
I'll probably go from a 5 to a 5S (or whatever the next iPhone is) IF there's some major spec boosts, such as bigger screen and/or significantly faster. My iPhone 5 is perfect, but just something about the latest and greatest that always gets me.
 
I always upgrade every year. I sell my iPhone on Craigslist and simply upgrade. I get a lot for my devices because I baby them all year long :p
 
You know, "incremental uodgardes" is a term people like to throw around. But lets go over a few things.

Mind you all of this is off the top of my head

Going from 3G to S...
Multitasking
Faster Internet
A phone that is to this day still supported by Apple with updates and, more importantly, able to use current apps

Going from 4 to S
Siri out of the box
Turn by turn directions

We can make arguments that these limitations were arbitrary moves by apple to make their latter hardware have a selling point. And I would agree with many of those claims. It doesn't change the fact that the new phone is getting these features officially from apple.

If we are going to talk incremental, what about going from the 4s to the 5. Bigger screen. Camera saw improvements, but the 4s isn't exactly bad. And..? It's all in how you look at it. Te leap from 4s to 5 was more incremental (read: less noticable) for me than any other jump, and I've had them all.
 
Going from 3G to S...
Multitasking

Wasn't this introduced in iOS 4, not the 3GS?

Also, many things you've listed are software based and have been artificially limited by Apple not to run on other devices.

I don't really want to pay more for a slightly tweaked iOS and a camera.

And you have to be deluded if you think 4S->5 was smaller than 4->4S... Screen, new design, LTE, better cameras, better speakers and microphones, A6, more RAM...
 
The 5S will have plenty of worthy upgrades. The only people who WON'T be upgrading will be the people who cannot financially make it work (either through upgrade or otherwise).

Unless it has a teeny tiny "scuff" on it. Then all bets are off because: minor cosmetic damage > ALL other improvements combined...

:rolleyes:

:rolleyes: Really, the only people who choose not to buy one would be those who can't afford it? There are plenty of people with loads of money who don't feel the need to by an upgrade for the sake of upgrading.

To be honest, I'll probably switching to an Android device. I'm waiting 'til the summer to see if Apple surprises me, but right now I just have no interest in the iPhone. And I've owned no other type of smartphone to date.

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And you have to be deluded if you think 4S->5 was smaller than 4->4S... Screen, new design, LTE, better cameras, better speakers and microphones, A6, more RAM...

The screen gave you an extra row of icons, big deal. LTE might've been nice if the Verizon model supported voice+data simultaneously. The AT&T version is essentially useless since their coverage is crap for LTE. The main camera isn't any better; same sensor. Lens is still F/2.4 -- the sapphire just means it's a bit more durable. Never had an issue with the speakers or mics on the 4S, and the 4S isn't hurting for performance on iOS6.
 
Wasn't this introduced in iOS 4, not the 3GS?

Also, many things you've listed are software based and have been artificially limited by Apple not to run on other devices.

I don't really want to pay more for a slightly tweaked iOS and a camera.

And you have to be deluded if you think 4S->5 was smaller than 4->4S... Screen, new design, LTE, better cameras, better speakers and microphones, A6, more RAM...

Multitasking WAS introduced with iOS 4 and not with the 3GS. My point was, the 3GS got it, the 3G didn't.

And yes, many of these things were artificially limited. I even pointed that out in my original post. The point is the OP is looking for advice on a phone to get. I would expect Apple to keep artificially limiting things in the future. As such, software is the big deal here, and newer hardware sees fewer limitations, hence, with my reasoning, not just incremental upgrades.

When I was speaking upgrades, I am only talking user experience here. No reason to call me deluded. Up until a month ago we were a family with a 4S and a 5, being used side by side. The hardware was a bigger upgrade, but the user experience was not. At the end of the day I could care less what is under the hood. If it operates damn near the same as the lesser unit, there is hardly a difference.
 
I might upgrade from my iPhone 5. But most important for me is a iOS update. Been very happy algae with my device except I got the 16gb. Would have been better with 64gb.
 
These are the specs/features I think the iPhone 5S will have.

Dual-core A7 chip
LTE world phone
802.11ac Wi-Fi
13MP iSight camera
iOS 7
 
I probably will... From my observations I would say most people on this forum upgrade every release... But then again, most people on here seem to upgrade every time a new iPad or MacBook Pro is released so we are probably not the norm. :D
 
I've upgraded to the "s" versions, 3gs then to the 4s, as that corresponded to my cellular contract. However, I've always wondered why Apple made the iPhone 5 thinner instead of retaining the same thickness of the 4 and 4s. Keeping the same thickness could have allowed more battery room. I slightly larger battery, to me would be an attractive feature. I see many threads complaining about battery life but can't remember any complaints about the phones dimensions. I give far too much attention to "brightness", "bluetooth" and "location services", trying to preserve the battery's charge. I don't care much about a skinny phone. If the 5s brings us a bigger battery, I'm in. If not ios 7 might just keep my happy for a bit longer with my 4s. I'm just saying.
 
will skip the 'S' series... as always. :)

I am on the "S" cycles. I've found (other than cosmetic change) there to be more real inner work and revision on these models. In addition, without form factor changes, cases are abundant on launch day
 
I've upgraded to the "s" versions, 3gs then to the 4s, as that corresponded to my cellular contract. However, I've always wondered why Apple made the iPhone 5 thinner instead of retaining the same thickness of the 4 and 4s. Keeping the same thickness could have allowed more battery room. I slightly larger battery, to me would be an attractive feature. I see many threads complaining about battery life but can't remember any complaints about the phones dimensions. I give far too much attention to "brightness", "bluetooth" and "location services", trying to preserve the battery's charge. I don't care much about a skinny phone. If the 5s brings us a bigger battery, I'm in. If not ios 7 might just keep my happy for a bit longer with my 4s. I'm just saying.

"Ditto" Having the same thickness of the iPhone 4S with a larger battery to give it more staying power would in my opinion be a better iphone 5 and give it a solid feel to it. Its not that heavy and those that complain about weight of a few more ounces confuses me. Sorry to say Apple did not go this rout but one can only hope later it will.
 
How can people say that 4>4s was just Siri? The 4s was *massively* faster than the 4, the speed difference was very noticeable. I upgraded from 4 to 4s, 4s to 5 and will upgrade to 5s if the speed keeps doubling regardless of the other features.

Agreed. I went from a 4 to a 4S and when I use my wife's 4 I'd forgotten how painful to use an iPhone 4 was. Slower loading times and the UI stutters when returning to the home screen/closing apps, etc.
 
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