iPhone 5 Javascript Benchmarks Over Twice as Fast

[fertilized-egg]

Or is this just another hype up the A6-performance story so we swallow the "world's fastest smartphone"-pill?

No this is more for drinking the "twice as fast as iPhone 4S" pill

 

[chrmjenkins]

No this is more for drinking the "twice as fast as iPhone 4S" pill

Reviews and geekbench have stood up to back the veracity of that claim. You don't need the sunspider bench.

 

[KnightWRX]

It's still a different browser. Just because it has some code that's similar does not make it the same.

Hum... "some code" being the whole HTML/Javascript engine. That's the biggest part of making a browser in the first place. "Different browser", meaning a different colored textfield to type in your URL. The kind of code you can throw together in a weekend.

Do you understand what UIWebView is and does ? It's the whole browser! Back buttons and URL bars don't a browser make. I say this and I use Chrome on my iPhone.

Really, until Apple allows other players to submit browser apps using different Webkit builds, different Javascript engines and different HTML renderers, there are no alternate browsers on iOS as far as I'm concerned.

 

[brdeveloper]

Hum... "some code" being the whole HTML/Javascript engine. That's the biggest part of making a browser in the first place. "Different browser", meaning a different colored textfield to type in your URL. The kind of code you can throw together in a weekend.

Do you understand what UIWebView is and does ? It's the whole browser! Back buttons and URL bars don't a browser make. I say this and I use Chrome on my iPhone.

Really, until Apple allows other players to submit browser apps using different Webkit builds, different Javascript engines and different HTML renderers, there are no alternate browsers on iOS as far as I'm concerned.

A browser is an entire application platform like Java or Adobe Flash. So allowing third-party browsers would harm Apple's business since they could run apps which Safari doesn't (like Flash Lite/Full or Java applets).

 

[portishead]

Really, until Apple allows other players to submit browser apps using different Webkit builds, different Javascript engines and different HTML renderers, there are no alternate browsers on iOS as far as I'm concerned.

You're welcome to your opinion on what makes a browser for YOU, but you're still wrong claiming Safari is the only browser available. You just admitted to using Chrome.

 

[KnightWRX]

A browser is an entire application platform like Java or Adobe Flash. So allowing third-party browsers would harm Apple's business since they could run apps which Safari doesn't (like Flash Lite/Full or Java applets).

Java and Flash in browsers both rely on external runtimes known as plug-ins in browsers. This has nothing to do with allowing browsers made off of Gecko, Presto or other builds of Webkit or even that POS known as Trident or that incorporate different Javascript engines to rival with Nitro's performance.

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You're welcome to your opinion on what makes a browser for YOU, but you're still wrong claiming Safari is the only browser available. You just admitted to using Chrome.

UIWebView IS the browser. I don't know how I can be much clearer than that. The few lines of UI code that translate your input into something UIWebView understands well enough to load and display the whole web page for you is not a browser, it's just a skin if anything. Everyone is equal on iOS.. well except for :

The whole question of Nitro that only Safari Mobile has access to, making any of the "alternative skins to UIWebView" just lesser performing in general.

 

[iphonefan74]

Samsung Galaxy's 3 quad core = quad fail.

The SIII tested here was running ICS, not Jelly Bean. The Note 2 just tested running JB got a 972 which is very close to the iPhone 5. The SIII Geekbench test running JB easily beat the iPhone 5 score. You can expect the SIII running JB to easily beat the iPhone 5 in Sunspider once its tested too.

 

[brdeveloper]

Java and Flash in browsers both rely on external runtimes known as plug-ins in browsers. This has nothing to do with allowing browsers made off of Gecko, Presto or other builds of Webkit or even that POS known as Trident or that incorporate different Javascript engines to rival with Nitro's performance.

Not really. Chrome has its own PDF renderer in PCs/Macs. Technically, there is nothing wrong on building your own JVM or SWF renderer. It's a heavy work, ok, but if Apple allowed third-party browsers to be installed, there would be a big interest on implementing these features built-in on that app.

 

[theBB]

You can run the benchmark on your own machine here to get an idea of how it compares.

Thanks a lot. I've got 252 (on Slow Leopard.) I don't need a stinking iPhone 5.

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A browser is an entire application platform like Java or Adobe Flash. So allowing third-party browsers would harm Apple's business since they could run apps which Safari doesn't (like Flash Lite/Full or Java applets).

Umm, yeah, Flash and Java would hurt Apple so much, even though even Adobe stopped mobile Flash development.

 

[Mutherluver]

You're all nerds.

 

[DeathChill]

You're all nerds.

BOOM!

That. Just. Happened.

 

[KnightWRX]

Not really. Chrome has its own PDF renderer in PCs/Macs.

We're talking about iOS...

Technically, there is nothing wrong on building your own JVM or SWF renderer. It's a heavy work, ok, but if Apple allowed third-party browsers to be installed, there would be a big interest on implementing these features built-in on that app.

Look at how far things like Gnash and Harmony are... Add to it developping an HTML 5/Javascript engine, and you get an idea of why no one has bothered to do it on Windows/Mac/Linux, but rely on 3rd party components.

And frankly, allowing alternative rendering engines does not automatically allow anyone to implement those extra features. Apple can very well still refuse those features but allow Gecko/Presto/Trident/Other webkit builds.

You're not making much sense.

You also seem to be trying to start a completely different debate : "Why is apple not allowing alternate browsers". I was only pointing out that they don't. I don't really have any interest to debate the why (it probably has more to do with code execution in Javascript, and the fact that you can't really hook into their engine from an outside HTML renderer).

 

[genzeleam]

So all the spec whores will choose the iPhone 5 over the S Galaxy III right? Because they are spec-whores right?

You're mad. The phone you've been touting as an iPhone killer has been proven to be horrid in comparison.

Surprise: Android militants are fools.

 

[JackieTreehorn]

Wow - that Lumia sucks. Big time.


Which we could surmise anyway because it runs Windows.

 

[turtlez]

Uh, no. As someone whos put in over 10,000 dollars into three mac computers and many more laptops, I was expecting OS X when Apple announced the iPad. The fact that it was basically a scaled up iPhone turned me off. I was hoping to do real work on a tablet and instead apple showed the world that simple crippled apps were the way to go.

ever heard of a laptop? I have spent more money than 10 grand on apple computers by the way. Does that make me more valid than you?

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The only two phones I like as much as the iPhone, if not more, are the HTC One X and the HTC One V. One of which is ridiculously big and the other not available for my carrier (Wind Mobile in Canada, equivalent to T-Mobile in USA). Actually the One X isnt available for Wind either. Theres the One S, but again, I'm not a fan of the large 4.3" screen. Ideal for me is 3.7 so my frustrations are greater than with android manufacturers than with iPhone. You need to get over yourself.

me get over myself? you are the one crying about the iPhone lmao

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then what experience did you have with iOS before hand? your post just smell of tainting and now wanting to learn something new.

It just is covered with a close minded look when you got the phone expecting it to be like iOS but it is not like OS android is different.

I used my brother's girlfriend's S3 again yesterday, thought to myself, "well it works sort of and I would use it if I had to". Brother got his iPhone5 today, played with it. It won me over in the first 30 seconds and I was trying not to go by looks either.

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Theres more than one android phone on the market. I dont see the need to constantly bring up samsung phones. I cant stand them equally, and ive bitched about their size far more than any of you android 'haters' because it drives insane having to stick a fat brick into my pocket. I've given the iPhone praise where its been due but i EQUALLY and far more often give it due criticism because it DESERVES it, not because I want to annoy any of (I really dont give a damn about that) its because I want to see the iOS system IMPROVED to push innovation forward and *maybe* have me jump ship one day because, check this out: i like the phone itself!.... i dont like iOS limitations.

Did you not read my post correctly or are you too blinded by your Apple hatred? I said my main issue was with the android OS!!

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Calm down, don't get too excited. Nobody implied that if Apple were to allow some customization it would break your phone and the experience with it. Why are you so quick to assume that 'oh no, apple gives me customization, the world is going to end!!'

You should think more openly about the benefits of having choice.

Like I said in my initial post though, the benchmarks mean squat, both for android phones and iphone.

As I told you twice before. I used Android for 2 weeks before I returned it. I use iOS for 30 seconds and love it. What does that tell you? I am not blind if I used the android before the iOS and found the iOS a step up am I? Time to leave.