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A lot of these benchmarks are out of date. My galaxy nexus gets 878ms on this test on jellybean. I could imagine with the same software the galaxy s3 could do even better especially the snapdragon s4 version.



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The ownership experience extends beyond these little gestures. The UI will always continue to evolve. iOS and MacOSX already have multi-finger swipe back or forward to navigate through prev/next items or apps. It looks like Jobs has successfully misled competition into isolated features.

The big deal about iOS is their vertical integration, not overly focus in isolated gestures.

The apps and their quality, the abundant accessories and seamless integration, the fit and finish, the efficiency and increasingly green focus, the performance and yet compactness. The entire customer experience are all part of the ownership experience.

I suspect Jobs' other famous "I got TV figured out" quote is exaggerated too, to have competition releasing product prematurely and running around.

The crown jewel is the iOS ecosystem (including environmental aspects, post PC era, blah blah) and the integrated-ness.
 
Tell that to Samsung please. They are the one who try to compare with iPhone because the latter is the leader.

They even went as far as insulting iPhone users for not caring about their phones. They made their choices but Samsung and friends just refuse to accept it.

Why do you care? Enjoy your phone. Who cares what anyone else says about your phone or your choice. Do you enjoy the iPhone (or whatever phone you're using?) Does it serve your purpose? Great. That's all that matters. Everything else is just noise.
 
The thing Android needs to worry about is not Apple. It is Microsoft.

Microsoft is sucking $10-15 for each Android sold. It also has an integrated platform and exclusive content. It has a sexy UI compared to Android's more cluttered but free form approach. And it has tons of money from its monopoly, plus Xbox 360 as its consumer base.

Because Google is so focused on hedging its bets everywhere (think GoogleTV, Google Glasses), growing open source base and fighting meaningless patent wars (Motorola ?); MS will try to steal Samsung away from Android to fight Apple. Google is ignoring the important business issues like licensing. It would seem that MS is already halfway there at least.

Once Samsung loses focus and its exclusive attention on Android, then the Android camp will only have HTC, ASUS and Sony. They have less than 3% of the market.

You can still unroot Android on these devices but it won't be much different from old Linux distro model with little consumer impact.

Watch your back, Android, since Samsung is only interested in the money. They are open to alternate tactics to gain attention or advantage.

Apple is only interested to do its own things, even against initial negative pundit feedback. The negativity has been there since the Mac days. Mac/Apple was ridiculed by Mike Dell. iPod was panned. iPhone was joked by Balmer and J Dvorak. iPad's name and form factor were mocked. iPhone 5 form-factor and UI were also viewed negatively. I only hope they continue to best themselves in the future.
 
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A lot of these benchmarks are out of date. My galaxy nexus gets 878ms on this test on jellybean. I could imagine with the same software the galaxy s3 could do even better especially the snapdragon s4 version.

What is your CPU set at? I've seen scores posted from JB handsets that aren't this good.
 
I seriously doubt it, because they are filling up every Apple-related thread in every damn forum on the internetz with their mindless Apple hate. If you dare to be happy with your phone, you will be labelled a brainwashed fanboy who loves anything Apple puts out. Doesn't matter if all the iPhone's were a huge success or that the iPhone5 rocks even the SGIII at half the size. Just don't see them using Mac's, because they absolutely hate anything that's Apple related. Mac threads are equally trolled by these guys.

I have a Macintosh, in fact no other type of computer, and an Android phone.

This is Macrumors (although sometimes I wonder) after all.

I don't like iOS, it's a dumbed down POS OS that has most of the UI limitations of a mid-80s computer. Can't even run VLC.

I own iOS devices, that I don't use any more. Apple's iCloud disaster is also a contributing factor.

Can you just disappear from Macrumors. iPhone just pwn3d the S3. Stop hating. iPhone wins +1

Quoted for the lulz :cool::D
 
Here are some Geekbench scores:

iPhone 5:
iphone-5-benchmarks-geekbench.jpg


Galaxy S3:
samsung-galaxy-s3-geekbench-benchmarks.jpg
 
You know what "stock browser" means, right? That is the the browser that's pre-installed on your phone, and in case of iOS, the ONLY browser you will ever see.

But guess what - on an Android phone, we ALSO have Chrome and Firefox and other web browsers, and I never use the stock browser. Shall we compare the performance of Chrome and Firefox for Android with Safari?

iPhone has other browsers you can install. You're misinformed.

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I don't know about the person you were originally responding to, but I know many people who love OS X and still choose to use Android phones.

Comment was directed at someone who was trolling.

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Is it possible, let me just throw this wild idea out there. That....no wait, it's impossible.... Or is it? Ok I'll say it anyay. Is it possible that..... people who have Android phones could also have a Mac? :eek::rolleyes:

Yes quite a few android owners make it a point to mention that.
 
iPhone has other browsers you can install. You're misinformed.



I think you are. The point is - with iOS - they are all WEBKIT based. I believe that just means they are all "safari" browsers but with different skins/ui.

Android's alternate browsers are exactly that - alternate to the stock. Completely.

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Yes quite a few android owners make it a point to mention that.

Why should one have to?
 
Why do you care? Enjoy your phone. Who cares what anyone else says about your phone or your choice. Do you enjoy the iPhone (or whatever phone you're using?) Does it serve your purpose? Great. That's all that matters. Everything else is just noise.

Care about what ? Samsung ? I don't.

I just don't want Android to drop out. I own an Android pad too . It looks like some posters and Samsung this morning still care about my phone choice. 8^)

It is their current business interest after all.

I just upgraded to iOS6. That's indeed all that matters for now. Although I wouldn't go as far as saying Everything else is just noise.
 
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exactly my point

Yes - but when people throw the "troll" word around - it seems natural to want to explain oneself.

At the end of the day - it doesn't really matter. There are people here (and ultimately everyone I guess) who will believe what they want regardless.

Some have labeled me anti-Apple and have called me or implied I was a troll. Or fandroid. All because I offer an alternate opinion despite the fact that 90 percent of my tech is Apple. Doesn't matter because they choose to ignore that or don't believe it to be true. I'll never convince them. But that doesn't preclude me at times from wanting to re-iterate it because there are new posters or lurkers who don't know otherwise. Or there are other people who are in the same boat who might feel they aren't validated in their opinions because of the verbal "attacking."
 
Yes - but when people throw the "troll" word around - it seems natural to want to explain oneself.

At the end of the day - it doesn't really matter. There are people here (and ultimately everyone I guess) who will believe what they want regardless.

Some have labeled me anti-Apple and have called me or implied I was a troll. Or fandroid. All because I offer an alternate opinion despite the fact that 90 percent of my tech is Apple. Doesn't matter because they choose to ignore that or don't believe it to be true. I'll never convince them. But that doesn't preclude me at times from wanting to re-iterate it because there are new posters or lurkers who don't know otherwise. Or there are other people who are in the same boat who might feel they aren't validated in their opinions because of the verbal "attacking."

I think it's fine to own an android or windows phone. There's probably an appropriate way to respond to comments/threads when you own these phones. You'll have to figure out the line for yourself. I realize both sides are probably a little oversensitive. It's just a phone. It's an apple forum, so it's easier to forgive the apple fanboys. If you're posting on a front page story mentioning how iPhone/iOS sucks you're probably not going to get the best responses. I don't think people here need convincing about anything.
 
Really? You tried the GS3? And no updates in sight? How long did you try the GS3? How soon did you expect "updates" to the new phone? How soon does Apple get updates to a brand new phone. You want to state you didn't care for your Android experience - great. But saying things like the GS3 is a poor man's iPhone is just ridiculous.

Thanks, I clarified my original post: I meant to say I won't try the GS3 bc my experience with Android has been defined by the "buggy crap" I described and the lack of updates/support on just about every android model out there.

However, I stand by the "poor man" comment. In terms of OS quality (buggy, unreliable, disorganized) it is the proverbial poor man's option. Worse than that, they're still selling these inferior sets at premium prices, comparable to iPhone's. Sorry for any confusion, hope this makes my position clear. :)
 
Thanks, I clarified my original post: I meant to say I won't try the GS3 bc my experience with Android has been defined by the "buggy crap" I described and the lack of updates/support on just about every android model out there.

However, I stand by the "poor man" comment. In terms of OS quality (buggy, unreliable, disorganized) it is the proverbial poor man's option. Worse than that, they're still selling these inferior sets at premium prices, comparable to iPhone's. Sorry for any confusion, hope this makes my position clear. :)

Yeah - I just don't agree. But that's cool and thanks for clarifying.

I have had the same (few) buggy issues with Android as I have with iOS. To me, hardware and software is not infallible. And there are pluses and minuses to both OSes (and many handsets).

As long as one is happy with the choice they make - that's all that matters.

ETA: It's when people get judgy/preachy on other people's decisions as if they are wrong. No one is wrong if they enjoy the tech they have and use. Just like I would never tell someone their religion is wrong or try to convince them my religion is better. Personal choice.
 
Here are some Geekbench scores:

Interestingly iPhone has twice as good memory performance, and 38% better memory bandwidth. If you're not spending your days calculating digits of pi, that will have a much greater impact on everyday use.
 
Benchmarks dont make it or break it, especially since the last article Macrumors wrote got debunked by users posting higher benchmarks than Macrumors posted in the Samsung SIII comparison, thereby beating the iPhone 5.

Wake me up when Apple has a clue about customization and then I'll consider using an iOS based device.

Jailbreak.... I can customize till my hearts content.
 
iPhone has other browsers you can install. You're misinformed.

I've seen this comment a few times in this thread. You guys realise that there really are no alternate browsers on iOS right ? While you may have apps called Chrome or whatever, that are "browsers", the only browser you're using is UIWebView. Every iOS browser needs to use the Apple UIWebView class to implement Javascript/HTML rendering.

And to make things worse : Safari is the only browser that's able to use the much more efficient Nitro Javascript engine. Every other browser is stuck with the older, slower engine.

So no, there are no alternate browsers on iOS, only different skins over UIWebView, with much less efficient Javascript processing.
 
Interestingly iPhone has twice as good memory performance, and 38% better memory bandwidth. If you're not spending your days calculating digits of pi, that will have a much greater impact on everyday use.

Just to throw that in - most of the time Android Apps are not thoroughly closed and remain in a "standby" state. Therefore they are kind of frozen into the memory. That in itself leads to way faster opening of apps.

And on a second notice - Geekbench seems to be heavily flawed. I tested several times with my Galaxy S3 (stock config) and received
end results varying from 730 (with energy saving set on) to 1900 (with fully wiped memory from the task manager and energy saving set off).

My Sunspider results
Chrome: 1305.8 ms
Dolphin: 1439.9 ms
StockAndroid: 1454.8 ms

Fun fact: during all three test sessions, CPU usage in Task Manager was below 2% all the time. So what does this benchmark exactly benchmark (other than the JavaScript implementation)?

Or is this just another hype up the A6-performance story so we swallow the "world's fastest smartphone"-pill?
 
Let me know when you can have auto updating RSS widgets, a file manager, the ability to use your iPhone as a disk drive while dragging and dropping MP3s and AVI files to it and look up a Best Buy in Safari and tap the address to get voice guided navigation. I'll be waiting

Ifile, USB drive in cydia, and navigon with Siri!! I just ask to give me directions to nearest best buy and Siri opens up navigon or waze or any nav app you want!! You don't even have to click on a link!! BOOYA!!!! Jailbroken iPhone wins :)
 
I've seen this comment a few times in this thread. You guys realise that there really are no alternate browsers on iOS right ? While you may have apps called Chrome or whatever, that are "browsers", the only browser you're using is UIWebView. Every iOS browser needs to use the Apple UIWebView class to implement Javascript/HTML rendering.

And to make things worse : Safari is the only browser that's able to use the much more efficient Nitro Javascript engine. Every other browser is stuck with the older, slower engine.

So no, there are no alternate browsers on iOS, only different skins over UIWebView, with much less efficient Javascript processing.

It's still a different browser. Just because it has some code that's similar does not make it the same.
 
Just to throw that in - most of the time Android Apps are not thoroughly closed and remain in a "standby" state. Therefore they are kind of frozen into the memory. That in itself leads to way faster opening of apps.

Or is this just another hype up the A6-performance story so we swallow the "world's fastest smartphone"-pill?

I simply read the summary that was posted here. If applications are left in memory is a separate issue all together. In terms of real bottlenecks the order is, cache, ram, disk. If your cpu is waiting for data it doesn't matter how fast it is, most operations are IO bound.
 
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Okay, seriously. Explain to me why I want my Nexus S to look like a pastel version of iOS? How does this make my life better?

FYI, I run ASOP Android 4.1 on it because I believe that using "Android, as Google intended it to be" is the best reference point for a dev platform and the easiest to get community help on.

And yes, I do carry it alongside an iPhone 4.
 
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