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iPhone 5 Lightning Connector to Support Direct USB Peripheral Hosting?
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tech4all
macrumors 68040
I have the Nexus and Nexus 7. What's wrong with them? For me I love the fact that I'm able to customize the OS the way I want and not have it stuck to Apple's template. Yes I realize some don't mind that and that's what iOS is for. That's fine, I'm not putting down iOS, it's just not for at the moment. I'm sure it's a fine OS. I'll admit though that the iPhone and iPad look way better than the Nexus' phycial design. Apple wins hands down with that...even if the iPhone 5's design is a "been there done that" design.
And why does Apple have to make their connector for? Why can't they just use a standard USB connection? That's the thing with Apple, everything is there way and nothing else.
To each his own I suppose.
When you go iOS you do it Apple's way and you have no input. 😀
firestarter
macrumors 603
Why is this news? Of course it will support USB hosting.
The iPad requires USB hosting, the iPad will get Lightning, so Lightning must support it.
Both the iPad and the iPhone 4/4s support a good number of USB audio peripherals (midi / audio interfaces / microphones etc.) and there's a lot of software in the store that uses this.
The iPad requires USB hosting, the iPad will get Lightning, so Lightning must support it.
Both the iPad and the iPhone 4/4s support a good number of USB audio peripherals (midi / audio interfaces / microphones etc.) and there's a lot of software in the store that uses this.
pretty sure this interface is PCI-Express.
And any adapter contains a chipset to connect whatever hangs off the PCI-Express bus.
This would be very similar to Thunderbolt, minus the video signaling.
And any adapter contains a chipset to connect whatever hangs off the PCI-Express bus.
This would be very similar to Thunderbolt, minus the video signaling.
bearda
macrumors 6502a
Pakaku
macrumors 68040
Yes, there is limited USB Hosting on the 30-pin connector but IMO, it was almost a hardware beta. This new connector is a lot ore rugged and less foolproof opening it for wide use USB Hosting and a new slew of apps addressing specific USB devices. My take is you'll be seeing a lot more USB devices moving to the platform.
Nicky G
macrumors 65816
But those require plugging a USB cable in to the USB adapter that comes with the Camera Kit, as that "USB adapter" has additional intelligence built into it. I think what the article is saying is, the "intelligent guts" that were built into that adapter is now built into Lightning itself, so you should be able to plug just the Lightning to USB adapter into these various devices, and if they are supported, it will work. No extra "thing" required.
It seems like most people are focusing on one side of this lightning instead of usb issue. I'm quite sure Apple is coming from the other side - that by using a connector they license, it's virtually guaranteed anything that plugs in directly will work the way it's supposed to. With a standard connector you'd have people hooking up all kinds of things that won't work the way they're supposed to - and then the phone gets blamed even though it wasn't intended to support, say, your old usb printer. You know better, but how about your Great Aunt?
If you want to use new gear with legacy peripherals, there are adapters which may or may not work great for your setup. You can still use your iPhone charger to charge all kinds of things if you have the right cable. This sucks for those who have recently bought expensive dock-connector based peripherals for sure. But that's about it.
If you want to use new gear with legacy peripherals, there are adapters which may or may not work great for your setup. You can still use your iPhone charger to charge all kinds of things if you have the right cable. This sucks for those who have recently bought expensive dock-connector based peripherals for sure. But that's about it.
Possibility of using European Mini USB adapter
Couldn't one use the mini USB adapter going out to Europe as a means of easily attaching all kinds of peripherals via the Lightning port?
Couldn't one use the mini USB adapter going out to Europe as a means of easily attaching all kinds of peripherals via the Lightning port?
What do you mean? You can already connect a keyboard to your iPhone with bluetooth. I've been doing this for a long time. Works great for writing papers in Pages on the iPhone. Not sure I wouldn't ever care about a physical connection when the wireless connection works so well.
macosxuser01
macrumors 6502a
Because there's no point yet. USB 3 won't sync faster then USB 2 for iPhone's just saying. Plus USB 3 is not the norm yet meaning give it 5 years when most computers will have USB 3 port.
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Btw, who attach a keyboard to an iPhone?
avanpelt
macrumors 68030
Can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not, but I highly doubt that's where Apple's going with this (if the Lightning port turns out to support external devices at all.)
I mean, they spent a fair portion of the keynote talking about how things have changed since the advent of the 30-pin connector with more and more people using wireless technologies like Bluetooth and Wi-Fi to perform key functions.
If you were being sarcastic, please ignore my post entirely.
blackhand1001
macrumors 68030
Bought a 2 dollar usb otg cable for my nexus 7/galaxy nexus. Pretty much every usb device I have tried so far works out of the box including usb speakers.
Well, you can get several iPad folio cases with a built-in Bluetooth keyboard - these have much the same effect, with the advantage that you get a standard Bluetootk keyboard (often detachable) that will work with other devices (although the ASUS you mention also has an extended battery in they keyboard section).
I have one of these cases and I'm not entirely convinced - it adds a lot of bulk.
dark-scribbler - you don't get irony do you. The much vaunted iPhone 5 is not a revolution or even a great step forward. Its a repackaging and a speed bump - not exactly something to splash out $600 and possibly have to upgrade your mac because the phone only works with recent versions of iTunes. 🙄
The reason the new adapter (which lets you use old accessories with the new phone) is so expensive is not, because Apple wanted to inflate its quarterly revenue but because the old adapter is analog and the new one is digital, and so the adapter includes a tiny analog-to-digital converter, and those who have any experience with such things knows that they are typically very expensive.
Lightning I/O has built-in support to host USB devices, which could lead to more fully-featured accessories than previously possible. Think keyboards, digital cameras, MIDI interfaces, mics and other USB-based gear
Lightning I/O has built-in support to host USB devices, which could lead to more fully-featured accessories than previously possible. Think keyboards, digital cameras, MIDI interfaces, mics and other USB-based gear
