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Not bad in the Detroit / Chicago area.

3g faster than so-called "4"G.

how come i'm getting hspa+ speeds on iphone 4? :rolleyes:



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Looking at the time stamps on those results, you did a test in the early morning and late at night. I think if I did a test at 1AM, I'd get some pretty fast speeds. Doing a test at noon will probably get you much lower speeds.
 
Holdout wimp

So I didn't hold out for the refreshed MBA and have a 2 month old MBA now, 'm enjoying it greatly and would not change if I could.

With that said, I expect to hold out for the IP5 until September. Hopefully there are no big delays.
 
I want 4g so bad, websites will load 1.23 seconds faster!!!

Beyond waiving your carrier epeen and bragging about speedtests, what is all the concern with 4g?

Data caps are here and will continue to get worse, reaching the cap even faster is not good.

Currently its not so hot with battery life and coverage is spotty for a lot of areas.

I can see the use if your are tethering and down/uploading a lot of data, but unless carriers continue unlimited plans (which they won't), it's going to be overkill in many situations.

I was playing with a co-workers new Nexus S 4g or whatever it's called and they didn't even know that it had 4g, so I turned it on, but then realized there wasn't much I could use the extra speed for and turned it off for her, because she had no use for it, even though I think she is paying 4g tax for it...
 
Who cares about speed if data is still capped and ridiculously expensive. If i was living in US i'd have to sell a kidney to pay for it.

HSDPA 3-4 Mbps is enough for mobile things. What people need is sane data plans.
 
Who cares about speed if data is still capped and ridiculously expensive. If i was living in US i'd have to sell a kidney to pay for it.

HSDPA 3-4 Mbps is enough for mobile things. What people need is sane data plans.

And better latency...
 
I'd love to fall back to EDGE, because that would mean I am no longer stuck on EDGE all the time. I live in a small town with no 3G, yet I pay over a hundred bucks a month for an unlimited plan. It really pisses me off when AT&T talks about 4G stuff when they deliver 2G.

I live in an area with mostly EDGE coverage as well. I've never upgraded my original EDGE-only iPhone because I'm still grandfathered in on the original data pricing ($10/month for EDGE data including 200 texts). Upgrading to any of the newer iPhones would add $240 a year to my AT&T costs. Maybe the iPhone 5 will have enough new features to make it worthwhile, but I'm young, and $240 in savings compounded over the next 30-40 years will be worth a lot later in life. I doubt having web pages load a bit faster right now is worth it. EDGE also has an often overlooked benefit - few dropped calls compared to 3G.
 
I live in an area with mostly EDGE coverage as well. I've never upgraded my original EDGE-only iPhone because I'm still grandfathered in on the original data pricing ($10/month for EDGE data including 200 texts). Upgrading to any of the newer iPhones would add $240 a year to my AT&T costs. Maybe the iPhone 5 will have enough new features to make it worthwhile, but I'm young, and $240 in savings compounded over the next 30-40 years will be worth a lot later in life. I doubt having web pages load a bit faster right now is worth it. EDGE also has an often overlooked benefit - few dropped calls compared to 3G.

I wish I would've done the same. Had the original iPhone, skipped 3G, but upgraded when 3GS came out. I am on the 200 MB/month plan (stupidly paid unlimited until a few months ago), which is still a ridiculous $15/month, I think. No 3G where I live, & data is rarely used as I try to find wifi hotspots since Edge is so slow. LMFAO, AT&T....gimme 3G service w/ reliable voice please.
 
This is so funny .... I'll take Verizons "slow" 1Mbps CDMA 3G over AT&T's EDGE 2G any day of the Week/Month/Year.

^^^ That's the bottom line here

I love the "fall back" to HSPA+ ROFL in reality it's a fall back to EDGE

What??? Of course Verizon's 3G is faster than AT&T's edge or 2G, but Verizon's 3G is slower than AT&T's 3G and that's a fact. And what's so funny about AT&T iphone jumping between LTE and HSPA+? Are you saying that Verizon iphone jumping between LTE and their 3G is better/faster? By the way you do know that Verizon's 3G is really like 2.5G and that's why it's slower. Like HSPA+ is like 3.5G. Fact is that AT&T offers faster mobil broadband.
 
it is all about what marketing wants.
2G vs 3G had fundamental changes in the technology in how it worked. 3g vs this fake G does not have those changes. It more of flipping a switch and making sure the backhaul can handle it (something that should never be put on a box like AT&T did with the infuse)

LTE is a fundamental change from 3G tech out there. Nothing is wrong with HSPA+ but marketing is what screwed everything up because first TMobile started BSing with it HSPA+4G (which is faster than AT&T's) then Verizon launched its true 4G network and Sprint had its 4G wi-Max. AT&T could not be left out so they joined T-Mobile in the lie.

I will say Sprint and Verizon are using what I call true 4G. I will let Wi-Max be a 4G techology but I will not call HSPA+ 4G.
So can we call Verizon's 3G 2G instead?
 
All debates about Verizon and at&t aside... this is a good step at this time. If this is what they are able to do without sacrificing form factor or battery then it is a good interim move. LTE really is not built out enough for them to make sacrifices with the design just to incorporate it.
 
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